Communism and atheism.

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Originally posted by DigiMark007
I vote libertarian.

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Me too. 👆

Re: Communism and atheism.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Ok im not sure what to say about this, but this is a thread to discuss Communsim and Athesim.

Well I guess the question is can Communism considered to be an atheistic system?

P.S. I dont have an opinion on this at the moment I want to hear what others have to say.

Does not believing in religion make a person an atheist?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Does not believing in religion make a person an atheist?
No, actually.

Originally posted by lord xyz
No, actually.

I think that a lot of religious people do.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I think that a lot of religious people do.
Well, God is a part of religion.

Originally posted by lord xyz
Well, God is a part of religion.

Yes, but religion is separate from the idea of a god. The communists where against religion, not necessarily any god.

I know.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Right thats Carl Marx right? So that implies that one of the principles of Communism is that atheism is a good thing?

Communism isn't strictly athiest or religious.

Most religious people are communists. They want to be charitable and lookout for one another. The reason religious people support capitalism is because they're still under the red-scare impression that communists are godless assholes who want to slaughter them and destroy anything Biblicaly related.

Not true, most communists really don't care. They just want to control the means of production to minimize crime.

If the government controls the drug industry, how can people become addicts? You can only get drugs if the government says it's okay.

If the government controls welfare and contraceptives, how can people become whores? You risk losing all your health bennefits if you annoy the government.

Communism is just the logical conclusion that mankind as an individual cannot be trusted to run thier own life. Individualism leads to debauchery, violence, dellussion, and suffering. Capitalism only exsists to perpetuate individualism.

Religious people should be communist. It's even in the Bible.
"Mankind cannot have two masters. They must choose between God and Mammom (Greed)."

I'm paraphrasing, but you get the general idea.

Communism was created by capitalists known as The Illuminati to divide the people amongst themselves and make them wage wars against each other.

Here are some more of the "isms" created by The Illuminati, you might have heard of some of them:

theism fascism nazism communism capitalism feminism darwinism dogmatism scepticism nihilism racism idealism occultism spiritualism catholicism materialism egoism judaism polytheism baptism paganism conservatism hinduism pantheism satanism realism vegetarianism ritualism paganism emotionalism altruism mysticism criticism esotericism christianism pessimism barbarism buddhism fanaticism theism asceticism transcendentalism gnosticism monotheism

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Does not believing in religion make a person an atheist?
No, neither being part of a Religion nor refusing to do so make a person aheist or theist.

Re: Communism and atheism.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Ok im not sure what to say about this, but this is a thread to discuss Communsim and Athesim.

Well I guess the question is can Communism considered to be an atheistic system?

P.S. I dont have an opinion on this at the moment I want to hear what others have to say.

Communism in practice has always been a athiestic system (as far as I know) but it is not explicitly needed in order to be Communist.

Originally posted by inimalist

I think in a very academic sense, communism is atheistic, in that it recognizes no God. .

This is what I can not understand no matter how hard I try: what economic system "recognizes God?"

Part of this entire confusion with crap comes from no one even understanding what it is and even today people confuse it for a political system.

Rhetoric is so important...

Originally posted by pcp
Religion and Communism are opposing ideologys and as such cannot exist together (as communism seeks to remove all opposing idology)

This is not true. I'll explain later but I'm eating Cheetos now 😛

Originally posted by DigiMark007
I vote libertarian.

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I'm libertarian/left wing. ...ermm

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
You're right. Someone got very confused.

Communism cannot be recognised as religion. Communism as an idea, that is.
It is exactly like saying Capitalism or Socialism can be considered religions. They are not and they cannot.
Its a complitely different phenomenon altogether.

You are correct but both religions and political ideologies can be dogmatic...in which case they are hard to tell apart...Mao's China for example, clearly it was a religion based on his principles...

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Yes, but religion is separate from the idea of a god. The communists where against religion, not necessarily any god.
Actually, theism is a religion according to google.

http://www.google.co.uk/search?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-GB%3Aofficial&channel=s&hl=en&q=define%3Areligion&meta=&btnG=Google+Search

Originally posted by lord xyz
Actually, theism is a religion according to google.

http://www.google.co.uk/search?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-GB%3Aofficial&channel=s&hl=en&q=define%3Areligion&meta=&btnG=Google+Search

Theism does not make you religious, you can simply believe that all the evidence suggests a creator of the universe and just leave it at that...

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
Theism does not make you religious, you can simply believe that all the evidence suggests a creator of the universe and just leave it at that...
It's still a strong belief in a supernatural power though.

Originally posted by lord xyz
It's still a strong belief in a supernatural power though.

A strong belief in a supernatural power doesn't equal a religion...

Its a component of religious but not enough on its own to equal religious belief.

I cringe a little every time I see this thread.

The two aren't linked, even though some like citing a few historical incidents in which they were. I hope to God (pun intended) no one in this thread is arguing otherwise, but I'm not going to look because it's not something I really want to debate.