In God We Trust

Originally posted by Robtard
Excuse me, but you're the one that said:

"When the power of the Holy Spirit is healing disease and sickness on street corners, nobody will care what's on the money anymore." -sithsaber408

Like I said, this "healing power" is only witnessed by believers (aka the biased); how convenient.

I do have another question though considering your above "Believe in the power of God for healing=healing"/ "No belief= no healing" passages... Christians/believers still die of cancer and other horrible diseases, why aren't they healed?

Yes, but the people on the streets will be drawn in crowds to street preachers, changed by what they hear and by God Himself, and given their lives to Chirst. Then there will be mass healings on the streets. Not just happening to random people as they walk by. And not as some "proof" or some demonstration of God's power so that he can WTFpWn all the skeptics. 😛

My point was merely that currency and pledges have little to do with this being a Christian nation, and that if such things are changed or altered to reflect throwing God out of the country, then you would see far more of His presence and turning of American lives over to Christ then ever before. That's just how He rolls. 😎

(As for the last part, Chistians with diseases aren't always healed because it may just be their time to die. God's ways are not our ways.

But that doesn't take away from the fact that God DOES allow the healing of thousands of people each year.

A good topic, and one better suited for PM's or the religion forums. I was making a point about the true nature of a "Christian nation" and what it has to do with our currency, but I see that we've dragged this convo way off topic.)

It is a shit motto.

Originally posted by Bardock42
It is a shit motto.

Yes it is.

🙂

-FO!!

I for one, don't really read my money, so "In God we trust" being on it, firstly doesn't bother me as a Christian, and secondly doesn't bother me because I don't actually look at my money that hard. I concentrate on size and color.

Originally posted by Naz
I for one, don't really read my money, so "In God we trust" being on it, firstly doesn't bother me as a Christian, and secondly doesn't bother me because I don't actually look at my money that hard. I concentrate on size and color.

The motto as such...is stupid though.

Originally posted by Bardock42
The motto as such...is stupid though.

But Strangelove is blowing the fact of it being on the money out of proportion. No one really cares. I bet most people don't even know whose head in on the nickel.

Am I the only one seeing how absolutely ridiculous this entire discussion is? Putting "In God We Trust" on money encourages Christian extremism?

This entire thread should be hit with a "learn2common sense."

(Well, the Bible does say we'll either serve money or God...so I guess this sort of evens it out.)

Originally posted by Naz
But Strangelove is blowing the fact of it being on the money out of proportion. No one really cares. I bet most people don't even know whose head in on the nickel.

Why should it be on though?

Originally posted by Bardock42
Why should it be on though?

Originally posted by FeceMan
Because that's the way it has been and there's no need to change it.

It is a stupid motto. That doesn't speak for the whole country.

And it has only been like that since 1956. So, if it could be changed back then why not now, to well...a not stupid motto maybe?

Originally posted by Bardock42
It is a stupid motto. That doesn't speak for the whole country.

And it has only been like that since 1956. So, if it could be changed back then why not now, to well...a not stupid motto maybe?

Well I heard they were planning to get rid of the penny anyway. So one coin down, call it an acomplishment.

Originally posted by Bardock42
It is a stupid motto. That doesn't speak for the whole country.

And it has only been like that since 1956. So, if it could be changed back then why not now, to well...a not stupid motto maybe?

Originally posted by FeceMan
Because there is no need to change it back. Granted, there was no need to put it on there in the first place, but still.

Well...the motto doesn't represent the population...that would be one reason.

Also, it is stupid.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Well...the motto doesn't represent the population...that would be one reason.

Also, it is stupid.

Maybe E Pluribus Unum is a stupid motto. It ought to be changed to "Yabba-dabba-doo!"

Originally posted by FeceMan
Yes, we know, you don't like God or Christians or anything. Therefore, it's stupid.

Maybe E Pluribus Unum is a stupid motto. It ought to be changed to "Yabba-dabba-doo!"

No. It is stupid because it speaks of a trust something outside of the individual. That is stupid. Why should you trust anything besides yourself. I would alo have quite a problem if the motto was "In Cheese we Trust" ... just as stupid. It seems to shift responsibility. Therefore idiotic.

And it should be changed because not all (not even an amazingly great amoung) of your citizens even believe in such a thing as God and your constitution speaks strictly of a separation of state and church. God not being a concept of states...

Originally posted by Bardock42
No. It is stupid because it speaks of a trust something outside of the individual. That is stupid. Why should you trust anything besides yourself. I would alo have quite a problem if the motto was "In Cheese we Trust" ... just as stupid. It seems to shift responsibility. Therefore idiotic.

And it should be changed because not all (not even an amazingly great amoung) of your citizens even believe in such a thing as God and your constitution speaks strictly of a separation of state and church. God not being a concept of states...

The "separation of church and state" is not in the U.S. Constitution. Just an F.Y.I.

Originally posted by Robtard
The "separation of church and state" is not in the U.S. Constitution. Just an F.Y.I.

Hmm, well, **** that then. Was such a good argument though.

Then again though the phrase does not appear it is stated in the amendments.

The motto doesn't bother me...so it stays.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness

I think Russia, without a doubt has the best country motto - ''Workers of the World, unite!''

(You have nothing to lose but your chains)

...

They got that from the Communist Manifesto.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Hmm, well, **** that then. Was such a good argument though.

Then again though the phrase does not appear it is stated in the amendments.

T. Jefferson wrote that the 1st amendment erected a "wall of separation" between the church and the state. J. Madison said it "drew a line", Jeffersons just happened to stick better. It's just a phrase regardless.

There are far better arguments to state that the American forefathers where indeed not making a "Religious/Christian Nation"; e.g. you'd think they would have mentioned Jesus or at least God in the constitution somewhere if they indeed did want America to be "Jesus Land" as some here seem to think.

Originally posted by Robtard
T. Jefferson wrote that the 1st amendment erected a "wall of separation" between the church and the state. J. Madison said it "drew a line", Jeffersons just happened to stick better. It's just a phrase regardless.

There are far better arguments to state that the American forefathers where indeed not making a "Religious/Christian Nation"; e.g. you'd think they would have mentioned Jesus or at least God in the constitution somewhere if they indeed did want America to be "Jesus Land" as some here seem to think.

Well, they did separate or divide or whatever you want to call it.