Statement from the Family of Pat Tillman

Started by Quiero Mota14 pages
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
do i have it in me to draw down on someone? i dunno.

Is that why youre in the hotel business? 😛

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Is that why youre in the hotel business? 😛

roll of the dice, my man.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
man, you just dont quit, do you? do i have it in me to draw down on someone? i dunno. the only way i will ever find out is if my life is on the line and i am strapped.

You don't have it in you to draw it on someone, or so you think, yet you can definitely say that if you were 20 you'd go an volunteer for the army, or if you were drafted you'd "be a man" and go to war. When you make contradicting comments like this, you're asking for it.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
and you just could not acknowledge that my post blew his out of the water?

You can't acknowledge any time I do it to you, like I just did, so why should I afford you the same courtesy?

As a matter of fact, I'll continue:

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
i would not become a firefighter because it's too dangerous

Would you like me to embarass you further by going into detail as to why this is one of the most hypocritcal things you've ever said? Or would you like to retract everything you've ever said regarding my decisions not to fight in war?

I give you the choice.

-AC

Never forget that the most sacred right on this earth is a man's right to have earth to till with his own hands, and the most sacred sacrifice the blood that a man sheds for this earth.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

Hitler: The World's most underrated comedian.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
You don't have it in you to draw it on someone, or so you think, yet you can definitely say that if you were 20 you'd go an volunteer for the army, or if you were drafted you'd "be a man" and go to war. When you make contradicting comments like this, you're asking for it.

i said I DO NOT KNOW if i have it in me to draw down on someone. for all i know, if, in combat, i was confronted with the enemy, i might freeze up. i might be like "DUH DUH DUH DUH DUH" as they blow me away. then again, i could be the most efficient killing machine the military has ever produced. there is no way to tell what you will do in the face of death.

You can't acknowledge any time I do it to you, like I just did, so why should I afford you the same courtesy?

nice dodge. now give me your lunch money.

Would you like me to embarass you further by going into detail as to why this is one of the most hypocritcal things you've ever said? Or would you like to retract everything you've ever said regarding my decisions not to fight in war?

first and foremost, i apologized for being harsh and calling you an idiot. i also said that you have your views on the issue, and, even though i dont agree with them, they are YOUR views. so as far as going into my remarks as to why you would not fight in a war, you have nothing here. if you cant accept an apology, if you feel the need to dissect my posts, pick them apart and reword your questions in such a way that it looks as if i am not answering them, then go ahead.

-AC [/B][/QUOTE]

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Hitler: The World's most underrated comedian.

-AC

Fate must bring retribution, unless men conciliate Fate while there is still time.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

of all the people in the world to quote.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
of all the people in the world to quote.

As long as leadership from above was not lacking, the people fulfilled their duty and obligation overwhelmingly.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
i said I DO NOT KNOW if i have it in me to draw down on someone. for all i know, if, in combat, i was confronted with the enemy, i might freeze up. i might be like "DUH DUH DUH DUH DUH" as they blow me away.

You insinuated you don't know if you have what it takes to even draw a weapon on a man as a profession, and cited that as the reason why you'd NOT become a policeman. So to say you would definitely not take a profession because of it is implying you couldn't do it.

If you're not sure if you could draw a gun on a man in a controlled situation, you expect me to believe you'd enlist in the army? I laugh. I laugh at you.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
then again, i could be the most efficient killing machine the military has ever produced. there is no way to tell what you will do in the face of death.

Hahahaha, this is a serious thread, there wasn't any need for jokes. I'm trying to have a debate.

Note the subliminal fact that you said "In the face of death.". Death comes for us all, I'm just choosing not to invite the man round for tea.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
nice dodge. now give me your lunch money.

Dodge? You asked me a question, I answered. You didn't even blow his post out of the water anyway, you sealed your own doom. Well, to be fair, you did that with the "I've got a bad leg." cop out.

Also, that's ANOTHER hypocritical statement. You previously cut one of my questions out of your post, specifically (All the rest was replied to.) and I had to chase it up twice following that. So don't accuse ME of dodging.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
first and foremost, i apologized for being harsh and calling you an idiot. i also said that you have your views on the issue, and, even though i dont agree with them, they are YOUR views. so as far as going into my remarks as to why you would not fight in a war, you have nothing here. if you cant accept an apology, if you feel the need to dissect my posts, pick them apart and reword your questions in such a way that it looks as if i am not answering them, then go ahead.

First, don't act like I need to make it seem as though you don't answer questions. You cut parts out of your replies when you don't like them, RJ. Pot/Kettle etc.

Second, that's just it. We share the same views on not wanting to do things because we don't want to put ourselves in the face of death, my point was that in future, think before you knee-jerk a reply and we won't end up here.

Now YOU are the one who refuses to acknowledge being blown out of the water. I didn't NEED or WANT you to, but seeing as you expect the same of me, I'd advise you to afford me the same courtesy.

-AC

Originally posted by Boots
A man does not die for something which he himself does not believe in.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

...a man does not die for business, but for ideals.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
You insinuated you don't know if you have what it takes to even draw a weapon on a man as a profession, and cited that as the reason why you'd NOT become a policeman. So to say you would definitely not take a profession because of it is implying you couldn't do it.

so i guess not a single soldier, not at any time in history, has ever froze up in combat.

If you're not sure if you could draw a gun on a man in a controlled situation, you expect me to believe you'd enlist in the army? I laugh. I laugh at you.

right back atcha. you make me laugh on a daily basis.

Hahahaha, this is a serious thread, there wasn't any need for jokes. I'm trying to have a debate.

sorry, i missed the joke i posted. but i am sure you did'nt. after all, you are all knowing and all seeing.

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Dodge? You asked me a question, I answered. You didn't even blow his post out of the water anyway, you sealed your own doom. Well, to be fair, you did that with the "I've got a bad leg." cop out.

elaborate. how did i seal my own doom. and if you backtrack to the "bad leg" thing again, i will not even bother with it again.

Also, that's ANOTHER hypocritical statement. You previously cut one of my questions out of your post, specifically (All the rest was replied to.) and I had to chase it up twice following that. So don't accuse ME of dodging.

cutting someones question from their post does'nt mean jack shit. so i have to answer every question someone posts? sorry, when did you become head mod here again?

First, don't act like I need to make it seem as though you don't answer questions. You cut parts out of your replies when you don't like them, RJ. Pot/Kettle etc.

example....this should be good.

Second, that's just it. We share the same views on not wanting to do things because we don't want to put ourselves in the face of death, my point was that in future, think before you knee-jerk a reply and we won't end up here.

Now YOU are the one who refuses to acknowledge being blown out of the water. I didn't NEED or WANT you to, but seeing as you expect the same of me, I'd advise you to afford me the same courtesy.

-AC

how the hell do you fit through doorways with that huge chip on your shoulder? you just cant acknowledge that i ghet it that you have your own views on this, can you? and as far as being blown out of the water, i am quite safe, but thanx for the concern. and dont even get me started on courtesy.

The purest idealism is unconsciously equivalent to the deepest knowledge.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

stopp sniffing magik markers, just a tip.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
so i guess not a single soldier, not at any time in history, has ever froze up in combat.

I wouldn't know, I never implied such a thing, ever.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
right back atcha. you make me laugh on a daily basis.

sorry, i missed the joke i posted. but i am sure you did'nt. after all, you are all knowing and all seeing.

I am flattered you have that opinion of me.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
elaborate. how did i seal my own doom. and if you backtrack to the "bad leg" thing again, i will not even bother with it again.

Forgetful too, hmm? You sealed you own doom by saying you don't know if you could pull a gun on a man, and with the following implication also. You sealed your own doom with the firefighter comment, as proven a couple of posts back.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
cutting someones question from their post does'nt mean jack shit. so i have to answer every question someone posts? sorry, when did you become head mod here again?

Who said that you have to answer every question? The point is, I asked you a question that you wanted to dodge, so you specifically cut it out of the post. I know this because you replied to every single thing I said, some of it was even less relevant. I then had to chase the question up TWICE or more before you'd answer it.

At least own up. The more this debate goes on, the more you look silly for using the word "coward", or "sapsucker", or whatever it was you said additionally.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
example....this should be good.

The first time I ever asked you why you haven't voluntarily signed up for the army, you cut it out of your following reply, and it's the only thing you cut out of my post. You continued to dodge until I more or less forced you to answer.

Page 5, seven posts from bottom, you'll find a post from me in which one of the quotes reads something along the lines of "So why don't you sign up voluntarily? Why wait to be forced? If it's such a respectable act.", or something like that. Your following reply features replies to everything I'd said EXCEPT that question. The following reply that I posted to YOU featured me asking you twice to answer.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
how the hell do you fit through doorways with that huge chip on your shoulder? you just cant acknowledge that i ghet it that you have your own views on this, can you? and as far as being blown out of the water, i am quite safe, but thanx for the concern. and dont even get me started on courtesy.

Then don't come whining to me about "You couldn't acknowledge it.", if you can't do the same.

-AC

His reasoning is simple

A man does not die for something which he himself does not believe in.

...a man does not die for business, but for ideals.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

no more need be said

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I wouldn't know, I never implied such a thing, ever.
well, when i brought it up, you dismissed it as BS.

I am flattered you have that opinion of me.

it was not a compliment.

Forgetful too, hmm? You sealed you own doom by saying you don't know if you could pull a gun on a man, and with the following implication also. You sealed your own doom with the firefighter comment, as proven a couple of posts back.

so if a firefighter goes into a raging inferno to save a baby, and he dies, you dont respect him for it?

Who said that you have to answer every question? The point is, I asked you a question that you wanted to dodge, so you specifically cut it out of the post. I know this because you replied to every single thing I said, some of it was even less relevant. I then had to chase the question up TWICE or more before you'd answer it.
i answer most of the time. sometimes i answer and it's not good enough for you.

At least own up. The more this debate goes on, the more you look silly for using the word "coward", or "sapsucker", or whatever it was you said additionally.
so you CAN'T accept an apology. thanx for clearing that up.

The first time I ever asked you why you haven't voluntarily signed up for the army, you cut it out of your following reply, and it's the only thing you cut out of my post. You continued to dodge until I more or less forced you to answer.
not good enough.

Then don't come whining to me about "You couldn't acknowledge it.", if you can't do the same.

-AC

do you like walk sideways or something?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
well, when i brought it up, you dismissed it as BS.

Did I? Did I dismiss the idea that soldiers might freeze on the spot? No, I dismissed you ever being able to go to war when you're saying you don't know if you could ever DRAW a weapon on a man.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
it was not a compliment.

You hold that opinion of me, me being all seeing and all knowing, I don't, never have I said it. So you must think it, so how else can I take it? I appreciate it.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
so if a firefighter goes into a raging inferno to save a baby, and he dies, you dont respect him for it?

No, why on Earth would I? Why on Earth SHOULD I?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
i answer most of the time. sometimes i answer and it's not good enough for you.

Sometimes you cut my questions out because you don't WANT to answer, like I showed.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
so you CAN'T accept an apology. thanx for clearing that up.

I told you pages back I accepted it, you think this means I can't call you out on bs?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
not good enough.

What do you mean not good enough? How hypocritical. You say "I answer and it's not good enough.", yet when I give you a factual occurance, it's not? Maybe you missed the edit:

Page 5, seven posts from bottom, you'll find a post from me in which one of the quotes reads something along the lines of "So why don't you sign up voluntarily? Why wait to be forced? If it's such a respectable act.", or something like that. Your following reply features replies to everything I'd said EXCEPT that question. The following reply that I posted to YOU featured me asking you twice to answer.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
do you like walk sideways or something?

Do you have nothing left to say or something?

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Did I? Did I dismiss the idea that soldiers might freeze on the spot? No, I dismissed you ever being able to go to war when you're saying you don't know if you could ever DRAW a weapon on a man.
i thought you were pitching a fit about the firefighter comment.

You hold that opinion of me, me being all seeing and all knowing, I don't, never have I said it. So you must think it, so how else can I take it? I appreciate it.
and i knew you would take it the way you are now. the totally wrong way.

No, why on Earth would I? Why on Earth SHOULD I?
gee, i dunno.....what if it were your baby? what if he made it out with the baby, saved it's life? what then?

Sometimes you cut my questions out because you don't WANT to answer, like I showed.
POV

I told you pages back I accepted it, you think this means I can't call you out on bs?
from what i see, you think everyone is full of BS.

What do you mean not good enough? How hypocritical. You say "I answer and it's not good enough.", yet when I give you a factual occurance, it's not? Maybe you missed the edit:

Page 5, seven posts from bottom, you'll find a post from me in which one of the quotes reads something along the lines of "So why don't you sign up voluntarily? Why wait to be forced? If it's such a respectable act.", or something like that. Your following reply features replies to everything I'd said EXCEPT that question. The following reply that I posted to YOU featured me asking you twice to answer.

Do you have nothing left to say or something?

-AC

all i can say is WOW....... you have way too much free time on your hands.