To ANALYSE or NOT to ANALYSE...THAT is the question...

Originally posted by savvysparrow
It looks a lot like the coat that Captain Hook is wearing. But I agree, what is their motivation in calling it the "Jack Sparrow" wedding coat? First off, how would they even know? Second, why would they put it on their website? It smells fishy. But maybe they didn't anticipate that the Potc fans are internet blood hounds.

Here is the pic I found it 😱 Its really similar to that one...
Remember the rumor about Teague marrying Jack and Liz? I think it was Lovely that brought it up. Although I don't think NOTHING will happen at the Brethren meeting between them. But I do to smell something really suspicious..

Suspicious? What exactly do you smell?

Here's the thing though. If Will dies in the way that people claim he does, and Jack has a hand in it, isn't Jack essentially choosing Will for her? That's what I don't understand. I was reviewing the quotes from the writers today, and one of them flat out states that Elizabeth's choice will not necessarily be made by her.

hmm... this is interesting. Maybe Will having a kind heart will choose for her, like give her to Jack. the writers said she didn't hate her choice she just didn't choose her choice.

Originally posted by savvysparrow
Here's the thing though. If Will dies in the way that people claim he does, and Jack has a hand in it, isn't Jack essentially choosing Will for her? That's what I don't understand. I was reviewing the quotes from the writers today, and one of them flat out states that Elizabeth's choice will not necessarily be made by her.

Yes you are right people are saying that is whats going to happen. But, I'm talking about the ending ending, there is something going on and things that don' t fit..

Originally posted by jackismyboo
hmm... this is interesting. Maybe Will having a kind heart will choose for her, like give her to Jack. the writers said she didn't hate her choice she just didn't choose her choice.

True, the choice that surrounds Will's fate my in fact not be the final choice that is made. And there is something going on because of the marketing.

You know what still doesn't fit? The whole immortal Will and Elizabeth, Jack sails off to the find the fountain of youth. For that matter, the whole marriage ceremony between Will and Elizabeth? It doesn't seem like they're together until the very final fight scene, and then we all know what happens to Will. So when do they have time to get married?

Originally posted by Mistypirate
But from what I heard Jack is the one that chooses for her..and they will end up marrying..The person is still sticking to that idea, but what happens after that seems to be a mystery.

Ok, if that happens, then we can maybe incorporate some of the rumors. Such as Jack and Elizabeth marry after the whole debacle with the flying Dutchman. They settle on their island together, and have a child. Will comes to visit them (hence incorporating the Hawaii/Dominic rumors) and though he is immortal and knows that one day Jack and Elizabeth will perish, there is hope because he can look after their son. Maybe, he decides to take the boy with him on their many adventures.

Or maybe Jack and Elizabeth marry, decide it's not for them, and Will comes back after ten years to find the marriage in shambles; Jack has taken up drinking, Elizabeth has let herself go.

Originally posted by savvysparrow
True, the choice that surrounds Will's fate my in fact not be the final choice that is made. And there is something going on because of the marketing.

You know what still doesn't fit? The whole immortal Will and Elizabeth, Jack sails off to the find the fountain of youth. For that matter, the whole marriage ceremony between Will and Elizabeth? It doesn't seem like they're together until the very final fight scene, and then we all know what happens to Will. So when do they have time to get married?

Originally posted by Mistypirate
You know savvy that Fountain of youth ending sounds like crab to me, that same person is saying that is going to happen but doesn't know for sure.
Another thing is that scene where Liz tells Jack "it wouldn't have worked between us". I think that is towards the end, Liz looks like she is saying good bye to everyone. Look at everyones expressions they look sad and tired but relax, it looks like they fought the big battle and the won. Liz also has a big cut on her left cheek. Could everyone be sad because Liz is leaving? Maybe..I heard a rumor that at some point in the movie Liz gives the pirates a speech and motivates them to fight. Notice that part in the trailer where she turns around and all the pirates are raising their swords, so that could be it. I'll post a cap.
Anyways, Will is not on that scene where could he be? and where is Liz going? She doesn't look like she is getting ready to go to her wedding.

Where does she go? Obviously, if Will dies, she's not exactly going to be open to the idea of Jack wooing her. She'll probably want to be alone, but where will she go?

The Fountain of Youth story was from the script review posted by Latino review or something like that, which Disney eagerly removed soon after it was posted. It said something to the effect of characters get married, die, become immortal, and some characters are left worse off than where they started in the first film. Also, they mentioned the whole quest for the fountain of youth as a possible set up for a fourth film.

Originally posted by savvysparrow
Where does she go? Obviously, if Will dies, she's not exactly going to be open to the idea of Jack wooing her. She'll probably want to be alone, but where will she go?

The Fountain of Youth story was from the script review posted by Latino review or something like that, which Disney eagerly removed soon after it was posted. It said something to the effect of characters get married, die, become immortal, and some characters are left worse off than where they started in the first film. Also, they mentioned the whole quest for the fountain of youth as a possible set up for a fourth film.

So it was removed?? mad2 This is upsetting when was that posted, how long ago? This is really upsetting..that makes sense, that the some of the characters are going to beleft where they first started in cotbp. Look at Gibbs in the trailer, his back in Tortuga. And it looks like he is saying good bye to Jack.. I really really hope they don't pull out a crap like that.

I thought I remembered it stating that characters get married, but I guess I was making that part up.

Here's the link if you want to read it.

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/vine/showthread.php?t=495952

Thank you savvy, yes it says that some characters do get married..

Along the way some characters from the first film will die, get married and others will become immortal.

spoiler if ya havn't read the 36 pg script:
i think it was in the beginning it said they brought a hooded figure to Sao that was the 56 page script in the 36 sao brought them Turner

They did say that it seemed as though it was an early draft in the review. And since this was written in November of last year, I would wager that they probably didn't have the most recent version of the script.

And to put together what we already know: we seemingly know who will die, and become immortal, though the quote implies more than one person becomes immortal.

As far as the marriage goes, it's hard to say which direction it will lean. If there is more than one character that becomes immortal, then I think we know who will be joining Will.

Originally posted by jackismyboo
spoiler if ya havn't read the 36 pg script:
i think it was in the beginning it said they brought a hooded figure to Sao that was the 56 page script in the 36 sao brought them Turner

That's right! So it was an old draft. Excellent. But the writers did say that not a whole lot has changed from basic outline of the plot in terms of the 56 pager.

So the elements are there, but the details have changed.

As far as the marriage goes, it's hard to say which direction it will lean. If there is more than one character that becomes immortal, then I think we know who will be joining Will.

Have a good night girls Im off to sleep, I'll talk to yous tomorrow Night. 😉

Good night!! sweet dreams!! give kisses to Johnny for me!!! lol

I thought Elizabeth.

Savvysparrow wrote:

For that matter, the whole marriage ceremony between Will and Elizabeth? It doesn't seem like they're together until the very final fight scene, and then we all know what happens to Will. So when do they have time to get married?

I think they get married during the battle sequence. 😄 That'd be so cool. However, I do think that Will and Elizabeth are together before then. I'm fairly sure Will is present when Calypso is released or called upon, and I believe that happens fairly soon after or during the pirate gathering.

Eh, who knows? Only the director and the writers at this point. 😉

Get married during their batle...uh...that would be cool i guess but who is going to marry them, i mean everybody else is battling EITC or Davy and crew so who could marry them?

When Will ask Elizabeth to marry him I think he means before he stabs the heart so he can be married before he dies or becomes immortal. The kiss in teh battle between them (W/E) from my point of view was a good-bye kisss, you know near the end of the battle it is time to stab the heart so one last kiss before he become immortal kiss.