Mace Windu crushing Grievous's Chest

How badly did mace crushing grievous's chest damage grievous's combat ablities? And isn't Force Crush a darkside power any way? I know that vaapad opens the user up to the dark side but i didn't think mace would go as far as using force crush. (the end of star wars the clone wars the cartoon).

I personally belive it did i mean think about it my friend if someone used force crush on YOU'RE CHEST do you think it would hamper you're combat ability and BTW that lead to Obi-Wans "Lucky" defeat of Grevious

Yea, i agree, it was to extreme for a Jedi, they should have thought of another explanation, like he got shot by a trooper or something.

Luke used a miniature version of the Force Choke on a Gamorrean (is that how you spell it?) gaurd in ROTJ, didn't he?

Well yeah it would mess me up but i'm not 98% mechinacal and would have instantly killed me. And being shot by a trooper wouldn'y work cause grievous's armor is Blaster resitant(thats spelled wrong i think) But i do belive Grievous may have beat obi-won if is wasn't for mace.

Force Crush isn't a Dark Side power, it's no different from squeezing something with the force. Only the manner in which he used it determines its alignment.

Luke didn't kill the Gamorreans (I think), and Mace, already closer to the Dark Side than most Jedi used it aggressively yes, but wouldn't stabbing someone in battle be just as aggressive. Not to mention it was a little justified.

Mace did not use Force Crush, he used Force Grip to enclose Grievous' chestplace.

Force Crush IS a dark side power and is actually considered the darkest power the sith use, seeing as it lifts the body and crushes almost every single bone in the opponent's body.

And:

Force Choke and Force Grip = Apples and Oranges.

No.

Force crush is an upgraded version of force grip, they're both essentially the same thing, and that is the use of TK to compress matter.

Originally posted by Apollo Cloud
No.

Force crush is an upgraded version of force grip, they're both essentially the same thing, and that is the use of TK to compress matter.

I didn't say Force crush and force grip were different, even though they are.

A grip is a weaker and different type of power.

Crush and Grip = Apples and Oranges as well.

Again, no they're not, that's like saying force push and force pull = apples and oranges, see how silly that is?

Originally posted by Sorgo X
I didn't say Force crush and force grip were different, even though they are.

A grip is a weaker and different type of power.

Crush and Grip = Apples and Oranges as well.

Originally posted by Apollo Cloud
Again, no they're not, that's like saying force push and force pull = apples and oranges, see how silly that is?

Push and pull WOULD be Apples and Oranges.

They're two different actions.

To grip something is different than to CRUSH it. Crush = Grip? No.

Force Crush is a dark sided power. It's actually listed as one of THE darkest powers.

Where is that list from? Not from KOTOR I hope.

Dude, clearly you've gone some next idea of what 'apples and oranges' actually are, but you're wrong in this case. Both force push and force pull move objects with TK, and both force crush and force grip compress objects with TK. Both cases contain two comparable actions, so you're wrong, they're not 'apples and oranges' so stop repeating the same sh1t.

Well saying that a jedi could use force crush on a rock without being malevolent would be okay is the same or worse as saying a jedi could use Lightning on a rock if they weren't malevolent.

Lightning is conjured using raw emotions, which lead to the Dark Side, then it is also used in a malevolent way on living people.

Crush is just a larger version of grip, which isn't done using negative emotions. If it's used in a "bad" way, then it becomes a Dark move. The technique itself though is Dark affiliated.

Isn't that true with any force power?

Pretty much, though I think Lightning's an exception.

And I meant, "The technique itself though ISN'T Dark affiliated."

Yoda used lightning.

Why make exceptions when there is no reason too?

Did he really, when was that?