Who better to tier heroes . . .?

the boundaries between EACH tier will necessarily be blurry. i'd say nova (the weakest herald) could beat for the majority anyone in the sub-herald list. we are still talking STELLAR power levels if she is written properly.

meh, like i said, the tiers will not be (nor can they be) perfect. just general giudelines.

now why don't you do something productive val, and place the guys from legion in the list! 😄

Originally posted by DigiMark007
I see the distinction Val....but I agree it can get fuzzy.

And considering what Graviton's done to the Avengers a few times, I see him as herald, but I agree he's low-end herald.

Also, Tooth, Logan = "Nah" for Mid-tier in my book. I can't justify putting peak humans (or even 5 tonners) in a mid-tier level, healing and claws or not. And yes, I realize Logan would take some wins off of Spidey....but we're talking power levels, not matchups.

{edit} Agree with capt about cyke.

bump

*grumble*

Originally posted by DigiMark007
I see the distinction Val....but I agree it can get fuzzy.

And considering what Graviton's done to the Avengers a few times, I see him as herald, but I agree he's low-end herald.

Also, Tooth, Logan = "Nah" for Mid-tier in my book. I can't justify putting peak humans (or even 5 tonners) in a mid-tier level, healing and claws or not. And yes, I realize Logan would take some wins off of Spidey....but we're talking power levels, not matchups.

fury listed wolverines powerlevel over spiderman.....

also wolverine not a peakhuman.......

Logan healing factor is amazingly powerful. does spiderman have any thing that can macht the type of power a healing factor provides? It regenerates hearts, eyes brains, limbs. That would require extreme amount's of power.

also sabertooth is just as strong as spiderman...... he a 20 to 25 tonner.....

Originally posted by leonidas
now why don't you do something productive val, and place the guys from legion in the list! 😄

Martian Manhunter = Herald level

Originally posted by DigiMark007
{edit} Agree with capt about cyke.

thanks.

Originally posted by capt it up
also sabertooth is just as strong as spiderman...... he a 20 to 25 tonner.....

No he isn't.

Originally posted by capt it up
fury listed wolverines powerlevel over spiderman.....

...which is why we're making the list, not Fury.

😛

Also, tooth's kind of a one-trick pony even if his strength matches Pete's.

...and also notice I didn't switch Spidey to mid-tier. I'm just trying to gain support. But you and I will get nowhere doing this back and forth.

Originally posted by NiñoAraña
[b]HERALD
morg, terrax, strong lanterns, thor, sentry, Surfer, Adam Warlock, Loki, Gladiator, Quasar, Majestic, Apollo, Graviton

SUB-HERALD
magneto, apocalypse, martian manhunter, captain atom, sersi, Nate Grey, Hulk, Mandarin, Holocaust, Ultron, Super Skrull, FP Cable, Black Bolt, Engineer, Jack Hawksmoor (in city), Juggernaut, Vision, Mar-vell(?)

MID-TIER
ironman, colossus, thing, cyclops, starfire, Thing, Abomination, Wonder Man, Namor, Ghost Rider, Rogue, Storm, Maul, ms. marvel

ENHANCED
wolverine, killer croc, luke cage, deathstroke, spider-man, Venom, Midnighter, angel, sabertooth

STREET
batman, daredevil, nightwing, hawkeye, moon-knight, Green arrow, Captain America, Swift, Grifter, turok [/B]

Originally posted by Scoobless
No he isn't.

jizin knows the details better then me, but yes sabertooth is roughly spidermans strength.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
...which is why we're making the list, not Fury.

😛

Also, tooth's kind of a one-trick pony even if his strength matches Pete's.

...and also notice I didn't switch Spidey to mid-tier. I'm just trying to gain support. But you and I will get nowhere doing this back and forth.

fury leveling seem pritty accurate to me......but I see your point.

tooth is a one trick pony? he has superhuman strength, speed , agility, reflex, senses and a healing factor........

true, but if spiderman get changed then a lot of other character should go with him since there all roughly he power level.

HERALD
morg, terrax, strong lanterns, thor, sentry, Surfer, Adam Warlock, Loki, Gladiator, Quasar, Majestic, Apollo, Graviton, Orion, Darkseid, Infinity-Man

SUB-HERALD
magneto, apocalypse, martian manhunter, captain atom, sersi, Nate Grey, Hulk, Mandarin, Holocaust, Ultron, Super Skrull, FP Cable, Black Bolt, Engineer, Jack Hawksmoor (in city), Juggernaut, Vision, Mar-vell(?)
Breach

MID-TIER
ironman, colossus, thing, cyclops, starfire, Thing, Abomination, Wonder Man, Namor, Ghost Rider, Rogue, Storm, Maul, ms. marvel, Blastaar

ENHANCED
wolverine, killer croc, luke cage, deathstroke, spider-man, Venom, Midnighter, angel, sabertooth, Morlun, Beast

STREET
batman, daredevil, nightwing, hawkeye, moon-knight, Green arrow, Captain America, Swift, Grifter, Turok, Kyle Rayner

This thread is slightly aggravating. 😐

I agree with Digi that Spider-Man is mid tier though.

Originally posted by Validus
This thread is slightly aggravating. 😐

I agree with Digi that Spider-Man is mid tier though.

I took Darkseid out of Uni's list (lol). Otherwise, just some additions:

HERALD
morg, terrax, strong lanterns, thor, sentry, Surfer, Adam Warlock, Loki, Gladiator, Quasar, Majestic, Apollo, Graviton, Orion, Darkseid, Infinity-Man, Alan Scott

SUB-HERALD
magneto, apocalypse, martian manhunter, captain atom, sersi, Nate Grey, Hulk, Mandarin, Holocaust, Ultron, Super Skrull, FP Cable, Black Bolt, Engineer, Jack Hawksmoor (in city), Juggernaut, Vision, Mar-vell(?)
Breach, He-Man, Hercules (Immortal), Raven, Aquaman, Superboy, Box, Animal Man, Darkness, Dr. Doom (w/magic)

MID-TIER
ironman, colossus, thing, starfire, Thing, Abomination, Wonder Man, Namor, Ghost Rider, Rogue, Storm, Maul, ms. marvel, Blastaar, Cpt. Britain, Cyborg, Donna Troy, Wondergirl, Gamora, Hawkman/Girl, Invisible Woman, Guardian I, Classic Nova, Deathlok, Speedfreek, She-Hulk

ENHANCED
wolverine, killer croc, luke cage, deathstroke, spider-man, Venom, Midnighter, angel, sabertooth, Morlun, Beast, Cyclops, Drizzt Do'Urden

STREET
batman, daredevil, nightwing, hawkeye, moon-knight, Green arrow, Captain America, Swift, Grifter, Turok, Kyle Rayner [/B][/QUOTE]

BB = herald

STREET
batman, daredevil, nightwing, hawkeye, moon-knight, Green arrow, Captain America, Swift, Grifter, Turok, Kyle Rayner

UniOmni deserves a ban.

is it me or has not one person added superman...

cyke could be ambiguous imo... yes he only has one type of power, but his output level of said power is incredibly high... meh, whatever works i guess...

Originally posted by Validus
STREET
batman, daredevil, nightwing, hawkeye, moon-knight, Green arrow, Captain America, Swift, Grifter, Turok, [b]Kyle Rayner

UniOmni deserves a ban. [/B]

but people keep assumign ebcuase the power is destructive that makes it superior to other forms of power. also cycke only has the one form of power. There are a lot of people who have many forms of powers and should be classed over him.

Originally posted by capt it up
Not that great? It extremely powerful. Just becuase it a passive power does not mean it not powerful.