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How? By not thinking he's more technical and less of a spot machine than they people you wrongly put him above? No.

Nothing, because it means nothing, does it? Acknowledge the point. Him doing that move doesn't mean a thing. It's not a shooting star press, it's a simple move and anyone can be taught it. The fact that The Rock and Austin have not done it does not mean a thing as a result.

He's no more technical than The Rock or Austin. He has as many spots

Austin isn't "sloppy".

You mean...he doesn't do stuff that the crowd absolutely love, despite it not being the most elegant? True. People love The Rock way more than Triple H, that's why he's better. Triple H got ONE great reaction his whole career, and that's when he returned from injury.

Isn't as entertaining as Hogan either.

Hahaha, you do NOT understand the business. The moves he does can be done by ANYBODY. That is what you're forgetting. The moves Triple H does that Austin doesn't do, Austin and ANYBODY could do, if taught.

Hahaha, your arguments are pathetic. it doesn't matter if it hurts, it's wrestling. Also, I LOVE the hypocritical nature of your argument. You say Goldberg is an ass for doing moves that hurt for real, but you praise Triple H for it. You're a fool who has no arguments.

The "Power Ranger" gimmicks, which I assume you mean over-selling, ISN'T RELEVANT here, you idiot.

We're discussing who is a better wrestler.

I said spinebuster, I said faceplant (Facebuster), I said running knee/high knee. So let's look, hard clothesline? Hahaha. The Rock did that. ANYONE can do that.

That's what you are missing. ANYONE can do any of those moves you listed. Triple H doing them doesn't make him a better wrestler.

Also, how are you gonna pick on Austin's cornerstomp, but suggest Triple H's ground and pound/fury punches? You're a hypocrite and a fool. He doesn't even do the Figure Four anymore.

The Rock and Austin cared more about entertaining the crowd, and they did so more successfully than Triple H can ever hope to be

now, dont' get all pissy and call the mods. just stfu, admit you're a retard who doesn't know shite and that all these years you believed that wrestling is real. we don't need this thread getting closed cuz of your stupidity or your immature BS. gtfo, b!tch 😉

~Sado

Originally posted by Sado22
you're calling PG biased cuz he doesn't agree with you, without really giving a reason for your accusation. i was showing you how stupid it was 😂

Huh? My posts are full of logical reasoning. Yours are full of "Nah, you're wrong.".

He IS biased simply because he says he hates to admit things that go against Triple H.

Originally posted by Sado22
you're idea of a more technical move was the sharpshooter...which is something an 8 year old kid can do. IDL is a bit more complex than that, not too much, but more so. Trips does it but does it well. Austin doesnt do anything remotely close and does it sloppy. Austin just brawls and that too like a drunk redneck.

My NIECE can do the Indian deathlock, so where does that leave you? It's not more complex than the Sharpshooter just because you want it to be, kid. Besides, that's NOT THE POINT is it? The point is, you using his ability to do it as him being a better technical wrestler. It doesn't, because Austin could do it. It's a move anyone can learn.

Originally posted by Sado22
has more than that. already showed you that.

And they're all moves that are either NOT spots, or moves that ANYBODY can learn, so how does that put Triple H above them, ability wise?

Originally posted by Sado22
then point out to me the last time he executed a stunner properly. stunner isn't even hard but he still executes it bad. Austin was never technical, steamboat even told him that he wasn't good at anything in particular and post-necksurgery he just became a redneck brawler who was entertaining no doubt but not graceful and wrestler-like in his move execution at all.

He executes them the same pretty much all the time, the way it looks depends on the ability to sell it, since it's the REACTION that makes it look good or bad.

Why keep saying Austin was a brawler? It doesn't mean anything. He was a brawler cos that was his character in WWE. Besides, let's get on TOPIC here:

You say the Indian deathlock, which Triple H has used about five times ever, certainly not recently, is what proves he is a better wrestler. Why? Anyone can learn it. Austin didn't because it wasn't in his character. Why would a character, promoted as a brawler, use that move?

Have some common sense.

Originally posted by Sado22
you're missing the point entirely, you idiot. the fact that someone is popular does not under any condition make them a better wrestler. you are reaching now. Hogan is more popular than Benoit and Angle put together. does that mean he's the better wrestler? wtf? 😂

I know popularity doesn't make a better wrestler, you cretin. I've NEVER said otherwise. I said The Rock and Austin were better overall because they had the way more exciting moments and matches. This is not UFC. This is sports entertainment. They had the ability to do what was needed.

Triple H's moves set does not make him a more technical wrestler, nor a better one. Why? Because they are not moves that are SPECIFICALLY technical.

DDTs? Backbreakers? Kids do those when playing wrestling. Austin couldn't do what Angle does, but neither could Triple H. Could Austin do what Triple H does? Yes. Because they are all simpler moves.

Originally posted by Sado22
got more moves, executes them better, isn't stiff and bland like Hogan and actually has a finisher that hurts. Trips is way more entertaining than Hogan. hogan is all nostalgia and that's what he runs on.

Again with hypocritical nonsense about having a finisher that hurts; you called Goldberg a prick for having moves that hurt. The aim isn't to hurt your opponent, idiot.

Triple H hasn't been entertaining for ages.

Originally posted by Sado22
Austin does them badly, sloppily. Trips does them right and makes them look like the hurt. that's the point of wrestling; the moves are fake but they're supposed to look like they hurt. its like an action movie. austin's stomp looks bad, his punches look lame and his stunner is almost always done bad and sold worse. he does the Lou Prez well though. but that's 3 out of his 4 spots done badly. unlike trips who usually does his moves well. is it really so hard to understand? no one's saying triple h is benoit or angle dude. stop being an ass 😆

Austin has never injured a wrestler in his career, to my knowledge.

Triple H gave Angle a concussion with a poor chair shot, or was it a Pedigree...not sure. One of those, it was at a Survivor Series or an Armageddon.

Triple H doesn't make anything look like it hurts besides the Pedigree, and anyone can make that look bad. Although, that move is hardly always executed right. For the longest time he stopped hooking their arms and it looked pathetic. That too requires people to sell it.

As for the Stunner, there's only ever one way you can do it. Kick and grab, if they no-sell it, it's not Austin's fault.

Originally posted by Sado22
wow, you just don't get it do you?
the moves are supposed to look like they hurt. that's why its called "selling a move". you did know that right, forest? that's why they called entertainment, impossible dumbf0ck 😂
as for the hypocritical nature, you just proved you're a bigger dumbass than before. wrestling isn't real, junior, it's all staged. i hope that didn't break your little heart now 😂

I know it's fake, but you are placing importance on LOOKING like they hurt.

Goldberg made ONE mistake and you crucified him for it, when Bret didn't even react as badly.

Proven my point though. If someone isn't WILLING to take the Pedigree properly, it looks pathetic.

Originally posted by Sado22
😂 it is relevant when your talking about being a better wrestler. rock does more gimmick than anything. thus it doesn't make him a better wrestler.

And using the Indian deathlock and having MORE moves doesn't make you a better wrestler. It makes you...a wrestler with more moves.

Triple H has more variation, but those moves are moves anybody can learn. You fail to realise this.

Originally posted by Sado22
no the better wrestler would be decided by in-ring performance. no one's even arguing about who the bigger star is you deficient, homeless, stupid dumbshit 😱

Homeless? Really? Homeless with internet? Odd.

Anyway, no. Better ENTERTAINER OVERALL would be judged by that. Better wrestler is judged by ABILITY. Triple H having a larger moves set does not indicate a higher technical ability, because they are NOT moves beyond the talent of Austin or The Rock. Do you not see the difference?

Originally posted by Sado22
a) never said no one else can do it
b) you suggesting that Trips can't show someone a middle finger and stomp then? haha!

I'm not suggesting that, am I? I'm saying that your examples do NOT prove Triple H has the greater technical ability, just a larger moves set.

Originally posted by Sado22
he does them well without gimmicks, without being sloppy and bland. that's what makes him better in my book. you're welcome to prove me wrong about austin not benig sloppy...but come up with something better than "no he isn't" you stupid kid.

Austin does what he does precisely, that's what proves you wrong.

He is SUPPOSED to look sloppy, that's precisely what a brawler is. Would he be a convincing brawler if he started doing Fujiwara arm bars? No. Idiot. YOU obviously believe he is sloppy because he is incapable of anything else. He's not. Triple H could look as sloppy as Austin if that's the gimmick they wanted him to. You do realise that?

Originally posted by Sado22
you're the one who counted it as a move. i brought it up for a similar reason and then you moan and whine by saying anyone can do it. don't get your little panties in such a bundle. lol.

If anyone can learn it then it's obviously not something you can use to say that someone is a better wrestler, is it?

It makes Triple H a MORE VARIED wrestler.

Originally posted by Sado22
which no one is arguing. no one ever did since day one. we're talking about technique and in-ring performance and as of yet you've nothing to back up your sorry excuse for an argument. good job, mindf0ck, bet your momma calls you special 😆

~Sado

You're adorable when you try to hide your shame and sadness at the fact that you are outclassed by my knowledge.

YOU claimed Triple H was a better wrestler based on having one move that he never does, but anyone can learn if the WWE wanted them to, and it's clear they never wanted Austin to be that kind of guy.

So let's review your claim:

"Triple H is a better wrestler because he can do these moves.".

False. Any can learn those, they are simple moves. Kids do them when playing, they do not pull of matches like Angle/Benoit, which anybody CAN'T just do.

So Triple H is more VARIED. Not better technically, JUST based on those moves.

You are sad. Sado, an apt name.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
You are biased toward Triple H, fact.
"I hate to admit...", why? Cos it's Triple H.

BULLSH!T! that is utter and insane BULLSH!T I did hate to admit but I agreed that him BEING the f**king champion as many times as he did was due to him and his ties with The Mcmahons. So now now everything I say for Hunter... I am baised...real good(THUMBS UP)

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
He IS biased simply because he says he hates to admit things that go against Triple H.

Again BULLSH!T statement!..... things that go against Triple H. I said I hated to to admit and that was ONE THING. You have this notion that I do this sh!t countless times.

Hahaha, temper, temper!

I hit a nerve! Don't worry, everyone's allowed an opinion. Don't get upset because mine is on Triple H and you dislike it.

So angry! Look at you!

-AC

Didn't even read your reply. better luck next time getting my attention, biatch 😉

~Sado
P.S. PG, ignore this piece of shite. he's sitting behind a computer screen and trying to act tough...over a WWE thread. how seriously can you take such a fagg0t? ignore him and two days later he'll send us a PM asking us to be his friend 😆

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Failure.

1) Any wrestler can be taught those moves. Kids pull those moves off when playing with friends. Triple H doing it, what, five times, doesn't make him a better wrestler. Even so, he doesn't regularly use it.

basically end of any sort of argument? if any wrestler can be taught any move why even bother with this discussion?

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Oh Sado, using smilies to cover up how pathetic you are.

Sado indeed.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Huh? My posts are full of logical reasoning.

Homeless? Really? Homeless with internet? Odd.

You're adorable when you try to hide your shame and sadness at the fact that you are outclassed by my knowledge.

You are sad.

-AC

I dunno, you may be an ugly flat-nosed hobo with turrets syndrome, 9 fingers, a lazy eye, and a dirty trench coat that successfully stole someone's unattended laptop from some Starbucks near you that you sometimes stand in front of when asking for spare change with an "I'm a Vet" sign around your neck and dunkin donuts cup in your hand, I dunno..

Or you use the free internet at the local library you frequent 21hrs a day, I dunno.

whats turrets syndrome? is that where you think you have heavy gun batteries on your head and try to shoot down anything that flies?

if you're gonna bring yourself down a few levels with personal insults at least know what you're typing or how to spell it.

'tourettes' is what i believe you meant to say.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
I dunno, you may be an ugly flat-nosed hobo with turrets syndrome, 9 fingers, a lazy eye, and a dirty trench coat that successfully stole someone's unattended laptop from some Starbucks near you that you sometimes stand in front of when asking for spare change with an "I'm a Vet" sign around your neck and dunkin donuts cup in your hand, I dunno..

Or you use the free internet at the local library you frequent 21hrs a day, I dunno.

NICE attempt at realism by leaving three hours free.

Seriously, though. What's Turret's Syndrome? Is that like Tourette's?

What's sadder; the accused or the accusor who shows up in a thread which he hasn't posted in, simply to insult someone better?

Makes ya wonder. Don't you have anything better to do than enter threads specifically to insult? Not to debate?

-AC

lol, i'm not insulting you and secondly i was being humorous while trying to point out your failed logic basically indicating that just because you have the Internet it means you aren't homeless.

I came in here cause i wanted to comment on LeBron James and his MVP running and saw a WWE thread in the sports section and i asked myself why the fcuk is a WWE topic is in the sports forum. Pop wrestling is fake and not a sport. And i came in to see what was being said and i saw you in here, chuckled, and immediately thought, "oh boy. him. i bet he's either calling someone stupid or an idiot and/or writing about how great he is in contrast, lol."

I read on and i was right... then i read what you wrote about you having "the Internet, how can i be homeless?"

'tis all.

And I'll debate. My view's that wrestling is fake and not a sport and should not be apart of this thread section.. College wrestling, now that's a true sport. Generally true sporting events are not staged with a predetermined outcome.

I cannot be blamed for how wrong people are, how great I am, and how the two coincide.

-AC

Or how gay you are (And you are).

Everybody should lighten up. These are not our family members

Originally posted by Sado22
you are biased against triple h, right? 😕

and they STILL don't. what does that tell ya? 😉

i don't recall calling trips technical.

-trips isn't sloppy like Austin
-doesn't do crap power ranger gimmicks to sel moves like Rock does
-isn't stiff like Hogan
-he does proper wrestling moves unlike Austin who does a drunken brawl
-actually has a finisher that hurts unlike Rock or Hogan
-he executes his moves perfectly instead of a) doing powerranger gimmicks b) doing it horribly (name me the last time Austin landed a proper stunner on anyone) c) isn't a no-seller like hogan d) can actually do more than 3 moves if his life depends on it

that answers your question.
and again, never said he was technical. he's an overall better wrestler than Rock and Austin and Hogan for a wide number of reasons mentioned above.

not really. SS is a single fluid motion: leg takedown, put leg between legs, twist and sit on the opponents back. IDL is more complicated than that. fail.

you're actually counting middlefinger stomps as a move?
okay trips has double leg spinebuster, spear, ground and pound, knee faceplant, hard clothesline, indian deathlock, figure four, fury punches, running knee, backbreaker and DDT. these are all moves he tends to do in a match. all his spots.

you forgot the spit-in-hand-waste-time-oversold-slap and lets not forgot the highly innovative Rock Stomp=shake-a-leg-stomp

you missed spear, ddt, knee faceplant, ground n pound,backbreaker and his hard clothesline

that satisfies you?

~Sado

Originally posted by Sado22
Benjamin? Trips jobbed to him twice in a row when he first came to RAW. they really really tried to push Benjamin but he didn't have charisma or micwork and hence he wasn't ready to be top dog. Trips put in a sincere effort to make Benjamin look good, honestly. what more is required of him than jobbing to him fair and square in two weeks in a row. They did it again with Y2J and the crowd STILL wasn't behind Benjamin. Benjamin needs to work on his gimmick. even now, he still sucks as far as gimmick is concerned. and the blond hairdo isn't helping either.

ditto. Trips has charisma, is great on the mic and puts in solid matches everytime....well, almost all the time unless there is idiots like Scott Steiner in the ring with him.

~Sado

It's true that Shelton pinned him 2 in a row, but they were quick roll-up victories, and that isn't putting someone over...

Triple H will agree to lose to somebody, but he won't put them over or make them look good... He usually gets in almost 80% of the offense in a match, and they get a sneaky roll-up on him, unless it's an established guy like Taker or Cena or HBK, or someone he personally likes like Batista or Orton... He won't put in the effort to actually put a guy over who NEEDS a main eventer to push him over the glass ceiling, like Kendrick or MVP...

It's true that Shelton pinned him 2 in a row, but they were quick roll-up victories, and that isn't putting someone over.

Triple H will agree to lose to somebody, but he won't put them over or make them look good... He usually gets in almost 80% of the offense in a match, and they get a sneaky roll-up on him, unless it's an established guy like Taker or Cena or HBK, or someone he personally likes like Batista or Orton... He won't put in the effort to actually put a guy over who NEEDS a main eventer to push him over the glass ceiling, like Kendrick or MVP.

Everybody should lighten up. These are not our family members

HHH is more technical than Hogan.

Austin could wrestle circles around HHH though. Look @his ringmaster days or his Hollywood blondes or ECW days. Austin WAS technical as hell back in the day. You are 100% wrong on that

He got popular & injured & started brawling. Even after that you can still see him wrestle his ass off against Ken Shamrock. Rocky does a spinebuster as well. He got popular & started brawling too. You could still see him wrestle when up against Benoit. Mofo was doing German suplexes, dragon screws & shit. Hell, he countered HHH's kitchen sink into a schoolboy pin in the ironman match. Never seen HHH pull off stuff like that

~Sado

Damn draft! I was hoping Cena got drafted to Smackdown since I dont watch it. Theres still a chance he might. Hopefully theres a god thatll make it happen. I cant believe Jericho got drafted. He's one of the best heels right now. Hope WWE know what they doing. At least we got Maryse!

Originally posted by Sado22
but Shelton's rookiness should be kept in mind, though. he was not ready to be mainevent guy even by a longshot at the time and he still got to pin him. it was a smart move that made them both look good: Shelton showed his worth by pinning trips and trips managed to save face by the fact that he was rolled up. that was a test drive to see if Shelton would work with the crowd....but he didnt. no point pushing him too hard, make him beat trips straight up only to be booed by the crowd. that'd just make him the black John Cena. maybe there is some truth to this statement. but I recall that trips didn't like Goldberg either but still let him pin him fair and square in a straight uip fight. remember that goldberg actually had a real fight with trips and actually attacked him in front of his wife. Trips still jobbed him.

Originally posted by Sado22
you're right about that, but i'm talking about THE stonecold steve austin. not his former gimmicks. i remember the hollywood blondes and steve was good back then but even then, Steamboat told him that he wasn't good at anything. that does amount to something when Steamboat says it, don't you think?

Hope WWE know what they doing

Who won the real fight? Never heard of this. Heard about Y2J yoking Goldberg up. Heard about Joey Styles knocking Bradshaw TFO

as for the Jericho/Goldberg scuffle, I always lol about it and point it out to idiot goldberg fans. check this out:
(from wrestlingDB)

Chris Jericho vs. Goldberg
This rivalry goes back a long way farther than the WWE locker room. It goes all the way back to the WCW locker room. For those of you that don't know the history (and why don't you? WWE put Jericho's side of the story on their Bad Blood website), Jericho wanted to work a program with Goldberg in WCW during Goldberg's WCW Title reign, and all the big wigs in WCW, namely Bischoff, Hogan, and Nash, told Goldberg to refuse to work the program. This effectively peeved Jericho and this sparked an understood rivalry between the two. The legit rivalry lingered until it exploded a few months ago backstage when Jericho and Goldberg got in a brief scuffle. A scuffle which, by the way, saw Jericho completely own Goldberg with a front face lock. Stu Hart teaches them well. Sarge apparently doesn't. The TV interraction between these two has featured Jericho always getting the upper hand on Goldberg, so, expect Jericho to get slaughtered as Goldberg makes his way to Triple H. Unless Triple H humps someone some more.

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