Beast versus Daredevil

Originally posted by jrodslam
Beast is on the jobber list with Tasky imo. Its been shown that he doesnt fare to well against someone with some skill and doesnt just beserk out.

ALso, i dont think his senses would have helped at all. It not like it would negate DD's.

I didn't say anything about negating DD's senses. Merely that he should've sensed him there a mile away. His superhuman hearing, his superhuman sense of smell...I mean, damn. It's like he closed off his ears and nose before-hand. 😬

In my opinion, not just because it goes against my argument, that is a horrible jobbing for Beast. Hell, I wouldn't have even been too upset if DD did win the encounter. But the way it was portrayed right there? That's pathetic.

Originally posted by Soljer
An in-character beast would get taken down by Daredevil, in my opinion.

If he were to go feral, he'd fare a lot better.

Possibly. Hed also be much dumber in feral mode.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
I didn't say anything about negating DD's sensing. Merely that he should've sensed him there a mile away. His superhuman hearing, his superhuman sense of smell...I mean, damn. It's like he closed off his ears and nose before-hand. 😬

In my opinion, not just because it goes against my argument, that is a horrible jobbing for Beast. Hell, I wouldn't have even been too upset if DD did win the encounter. But the way it was portrayed right there? That's pathetic.

😆 I hear you Metal. Les not forget that Daredevil is a ninja, so him sneaking up on Beast shouldnt be too out of the question.😬

Originally posted by jrodslam
Possibly. Hed also be much dumber in feral mode.

Perhaps, but he's also a much better fighter. His quarrels with Wolverine and Sabretooth didn't make him look too bad...

But only when he was feral.

Originally posted by Soljer
Perhaps, but he's also a much better fighter. His quarrels with Wolverine and Sabretooth didn't make him look too bad...

But only when he was feral.

I remember Beast pretty much handing it to Sabes while completely non-feral.

And he totally stalemated Wolverine in Astonishing, in my opinion.

Originally posted by jrodslam
😆 I hear you Metal. Les not forget that Daredevil is a ninja, so him sneaking up on Beast shouldnt be too out of the question.😬

Well, yea. Believe me, I love DD. I'm not taking away from his abilities at all. But I mean, come on. Ninja or not, DD gives off a scent and has a heartbeat. Both of which should've been easily detectable by a non-jobbing Beast. Know what I'm saying?

Originally posted by Metalmanx
But I mean, come on. Ninja or not, DD gives off a scent and has a heartbeat. Both of which should've been easily detectable by a non-jobbing Beast. Know what I'm saying?

I get you, but could Beast od that? Are his senses that good to be detecting heartbeats? Scents would be more like it for him however.😬

Originally posted by Metalmanx
I remember Beast pretty much handing it to Sabes while completely non-feral.

Can you post scans of that? Id like to see it. Is it in his respect thread?

Originally posted by Metalmanx
And he totally stalemated Wolverine in Astonishing, in my opinion.

I agree.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Can you post scans of that? Id like to see it. Is it in his respect thread?

Here a confrontation between Beast and Sabretooth. Now there's interference from Cyclops, but it should also be noted that Beast is trying to apprehend Sabretooth, not put him down. I'm not saying that Beast should take majority over Creed, but it does seem that he could have pulled a solid win in this particular instance if he were going all out.

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I agree with how the Respect Thread worded it. He was basically trying to calm and incapacitate Creed throughout this fight. And even still, he appeared to have the upper hand.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Here a confrontation between Beast and Sabretooth. Now there's interference from Cyclops, but it should also be noted that Beast is trying to apprehend Sabretooth, not put him down. I'm not saying that Beast should take majority over Creed, but it does seem that he could have pulled a solid win in this particular instance if he were going all out.

http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/6871/sabretoothredzonep16vw6.jpg
http://img481.imageshack.us/img481/4990/sabretoothredzonep17la1.jpg
http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/8436/sabretoothredzonep18xt0.jpg
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/6656/sabretoothredzonep19tk0.jpg
http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/1479/sabretoothredzonep20vk9.jpg
http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/1548/sabretoothredzonep38iw1.jpg
http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/6487/sabretoothredzonep39nv8.jpg

I agree with how the Respect Thread worded it. He was basically trying to calm and incapacitate Creed throughout this fight. And even still, he appeared to have the upper hand.

Sweet. Thanks. Now in all fairness, Sabes wasnt really trying to fight with Beast either. The whole thing was mostly running and dialogue.

Well iff you check the danger fight and other fights where beast is in, you can clearly see he goes all out he even bite's, fight's like real animal.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Sweet. Thanks. Now in all fairness, Sabes wasnt really trying to fight with Beast either. The whole thing was mostly running and dialogue.

True, I'll give you that. Can't deny it. But again, in fairness, Sabes (even in this scenario) was still far more ruthless than Beast was.

Originally posted by Brutacus
Well iff you check the danger fight and other fights where beast is in, you can clearly see he goes all out he even bite's, fight's like real animal.

Well like i stated before, when Beast did the job on Danger, she was severly depowered. Downgraded in offense as well as defense. No much of a feat there.

Now when he was fighting her in the mansion, he did go for the wires, but to no avail he still got thrashed.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
True, I'll give you that. Can't deny it. But again, in fairness, Sabes (even in this scenario) was still far more ruthless than Beast was.

Ok, i can agree with that. Although from hearing the talk9nig between the two it appeared that Sabes didnt wasnt to be in his condition and was trying to fight it. Either way, youre right, Beast did seem like the aggressor.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Well like i stated before, when Beast did the job on Danger, she was severly depowered. Downgraded in offense as well as defense. No much of a feat there.

Now when he was fighting her in the mansion, he did go for the wires, but to no avail he still got thrashed.

I know she was downgraded, and also know it might not have been the greatest feat, but I was rather talking about the way he fought.
He fought her like a animal with the biting and the claws.
So this in my eye's is a better way to fight against DD, because like you said before DD is to skilled for beast to fight him in a normal h2h battle.
This way he could cut DD up pretty bad.
And with his feral side he won't hold back, or wouldn't feel the damage DD does to him.
And to come back at nerve striking, this is also a question iff this would work on beast since his body is not shaped like a normal humans body.

For example wenn beast fought kraven, kraven used some posion or venom on beast that would slow down a normal human yet on beast it had a totally diffrent effect.
Now I know nerve strike's and venom or two totally difrent things, yet this shows that his body is not like a human body.

But than again I'm not sure who would win this fight, yet I do know DD has to beat beast fast since I'm pretty sure beast should be able to outlast him.

Originally posted by Brutacus
I know she was downgraded, and also know it might not have been the greatest feat, but I was rather talking about the way he fought.
He fought her like a animal with the biting and the claws.
So this in my eye's is a better way to fight against DD, because like you said before DD is to skilled for beast to fight him in a normal h2h battle.
This way he could cut DD up pretty bad.
And with his feral side he won't hold back, or wouldn't feel the damage DD does to him.
And to come back at nerve striking, this is also a question iff this would work on beast since his body is not shaped like a normal humans body.

For example wenn beast fought kraven, kraven used some posion or venom on beast that would slow down a normal human yet on beast it had a totally diffrent effect.
Now I know nerve strike's and venom or two totally difrent things, yet this shows that his body is not like a human body.

But than again I'm not sure who would win this fight, yet I do know DD has to beat beast fast since I'm pretty sure beast should be able to outlast him.

Beast going feral on DD may or may not help him much. I say that because hes not thinking about what hes doing. Hes just leaping at DD and clawing. I personally think thats right up DD's alley. Im pretty sure hed much rather fight somene whos in a built up rage that doesnt think in battle.

I must admit that IF Beast feral/rage mode is like Wovies Beserk mode, it may be a bit harder for DD to read Beasts moves, but hed probably still be able to do it, only with more difficulty.

As far as nerve strikes go, i dont think because Beasts body is more cat-like, he wont be susceptible to the nerve hits. Because of the senses, hed know the right places to hit if they arent where a normal humans body nerves would be.

DD was capable of beating Wolverine when he was under Hydra's control, so he could probably handle Beast.

Although Beasts sense makes it near impossible to sneak up, I have a feeling Daredevil could do it. The shi'ar guardsman who turned himself invisible wasn't able to, but Beast probably heard him.

Originally posted by llagrok
DD was capable of beating Wolverine when he was under Hydra's control, so he could probably handle Beast.

Although Beasts sense makes it near impossible to sneak up, I have a feeling Daredevil could do it. The shi'ar guardsman who turned himself invisible wasn't able to, but Beast probably heard him.

Beast DID hear him. And I think smelled him, too. He sensed him just as good as if he could see him.

I still think Beast gets the majority here.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Well, yea. Believe me, I love DD. I'm not taking away from his abilities at all. But I mean, come on. Ninja or not, DD gives off a scent and has a heartbeat. Both of which should've been easily detectable by a non-jobbing Beast. Know what I'm saying?

wolverine also was not aiming to kill........

that not the best guage. also sabertooth has pwned beast before if I am not mistaken........

Originally posted by capt it up
wolverine also was not aiming to kill........

that not the best guage. also sabertooth has pwned beast before if I am not mistaken........

Never said he was. But neither was Hank. 😬

For what they were both giving to the fight, it was a stalemate. Wouldn't you agree?