Ranks for MAs

how come mantis>MD when MD defeated her cleanly in straight 1on1 combat?

Originally posted by leonidas
how come mantis>MD when MD defeated her cleanly in straight 1on1 combat?

Originally posted by Eel O'Brian
Mantis jobbed a little... otherwise her feats are > anything that I'm aware of MD pulling off.

MD gave Daredevil back his sight with pressure points and even brought down a mental construct that gave Thor problems. Even her mind powers she developed through alien martial arts.

Mantis I think has more feats IMO but feats are not the only criteria but the fights themselves are also "feats".

* IMO, Cyclops and USAgent should be one tier higher respectively... 🙂

I disagree. scot feats are inferior to pritty much every in the tier above him. scot barly ever displays h2h prowesses and even when he does it nothing special

Punisher should be one tier highier its absurd.

no offence, but those tiers are shocking...

michael holt = ted kord? honestly?

The greatest travesty is Tim Drake's placement...

The placements in general suck I might start this up again, after all I was the one putting up placements in the first place, since certain members don't post that much anymore we could start again. We need somebody to take care of setting up the table but im too busy.

wildcat isn't placed

Originally posted by namorsubby
wildcat isn't placed

BTW, how many stalemates do you have to have against a top teir to be considered one?

Originally posted by namorsubby
opps...............never mind 😮

BTW, how many stalemates do you have to have against a top teir to be considered one?

Problem is who will Ted replace for his top tier spot?
Also most people would say Batman is a) considerably more skilled overall than Ted and b) would take the majority in an all out fight.

I say Ted is a high 2nd tier. 🙂

cant really complain..........i do think batman is better after all.

2nd tier it is. 🙂

edit:

black canary is top tier?

is "O-Sensei" the sensi from batman, ras al gul's father? because if he isn't uber he definitely deserves to be.

Somebody do the table.....*groan* I might have to do it myself....just got way too much stuff to do

Originally posted by namorsubby
is "O-Sensei" the sensi from batman, ras al gul's father? because if he isn't uber he definitely deserves to be.

Haven't seen the table in ages.Thought he was in the uber section already?

what's "the table"

hope i don't get bashed for this.......but i really think Tim Drake is high 2nd tier.

Tada !

Current Hierarchy [194]

Cosmic Tier: (Transcendent Martial Artists) [3]
Gamora, Karate Kid, Mantis

Uber Tier: (Unearthly Martial Artists) [10]
Adam Warlock, Captain Mar-Vell, Kirigi (DC), Mandarin, Moondragon, O-Sensei, Ogun, Stick, Temugin, Thanos

Top Tier: ("Greatest Martial Artists"😉 [18]
Batgirl (Cassandra Cain), Batman, Black Canary, Bronze Tiger, Captain America, Connor Hawke, Constantine Drakon, Daredevil, Elektra, Iron Fist, Lady Shiva, Richard Dragon, Shang Chi, Shen Kuei (The Cat), Snake-Eyes, Storm Shadow, Taskmaster, Wolverine

Second Tier: (Master Martial Artists) [58]
Agent X, Artemis, Azrael, Backlash, Black Panther, Black Widow, Bullseye, Cable, Champion of the Universe, Cheshire, Crossbones, Daken, David Cain, Deadpool, Deathstroke, Domino, Donatello, Echo, Erik Killmonger, Gorgon (Tomi Shishido), Green Arrow, Grifter, Hawkman, Jason Blood, Judomaster (Hadley Jagger), Karnak, Lady Deathstrike, Leonardo, Magnus, Merlyn (DC), Michaelangelo, Midnight Sun, Mr Sensitive, Natas, Nick Fury, Nightwing, Nomad, Orion, Ozymandias (DC), Prometheus, Puck, Ra's al Ghul, Raphael, Ravager, Red Hood, Red Skull, Silver Samurai, Steel Serpent, Stone, Talia al Ghul, Twelve Brothers in Silk, White Tiger (Angela del Toro), Wildcat (Ted Grant), Winter Soldier, Wonder Woman, Vandal Savage, X-23, Zealot

Third Tier: (Highly Skilled Martial Artists) [67]
Alpha, Ares (Marvel), Arsenal, Bane, Beta Ray Bill, Black Bolt, Black Cat, Black Knight (Dane Whitman), Blade, Blue Beetle (Ted Kord), Colleen Wing, Damian Wayne, Doctor Mid-Nite, Doctor Strange, Donna Troy, Drax, Duke(GI Joe), Grendel (Hunter Rose), Hawkeye, Heavy Duty(GI Joe), Hercules, Hippolyta, Huntress, Katana, KGBeast, Kingpin, Lady Vic, Lobo, Loki, "Mad Dog" Cain, Matsu'o Tsurayaba, Midnighter, Mister America (Tex Thomson), Mister Terrific, Mockingbird, Moon Knight, Mystique, Namor, Night Thrasher, Nightcrawler, Omega Red, Onyx, Prodigy, Psylocke, Punisher, The Question, Revanche, Robin (Tim Drake), Sage, Sabretooth, Shadowcat, Shatterstar, Shrike IV (Boone), Speedy (Mia Dearden), Spider-Woman (Jessica Drew), Stacy X, Terry McGinnis, Thena, Thor, Typhoid Mary, US Agent, V, Viper (Madame Hydra), Wild Child, Wong, Yukio

Fourth Tier: (Trained Martial Artists) [38]
Aquaman, Batgirl (Barbara Gordon), Batwoman, Beast, Blink, Blue Devil, Boom Boom, Cannonball, Carol Danvers, Catwoman, Colossus, Cyclops, Danielle Moonstar, Deathbird, Falcon, Gambit, Hawkgirl, Invisible Woman, Iron Man, Jamie Madrox, Joker, Jubilee, Luke Cage, Mister Fantastic, Misty Knight, Nite Owl II, Rorschach, She-Hulk, Starfire, Storm, Strong Guy, Superman, Tarantula, Thing, Viper (Madame Hydra), Wonder Man, Zauriel

edit there was supposed to be a tier below fourth.... Im thiking maybe we should start again.

I left one person in each category so people have an idea of who should be there. If we started the table from the beginning this time it would probably be different. Anyway this is just a suggestion..

Current Hierarchy

Cosmic Tier: (Transcendent Martial Artists)
Gamora,

Uber Tier: (Unearthly Martial Artists)

Temugin

Top Tier: ("Greatest Martial Artists"😉

Captain America,

Second Tier: (Master Martial Artists)
Nightwing,

Third Tier: (Highly Skilled Martial Artists)
Ares,

Fourth Tier: (Trained Martial Artists)
Batgirl (Barbara Gordon),

Accomplished Fighter: (Little formal training/Some Skill) [9]

Spider-Man,