Ranks for MAs

Started by jrodslam143 pages
Originally posted by snoopdogg
Either way Moon Knight and Punisher have altleast fought in the mainstream more than Blade has and they atleast should be moved up to 2nd tier along with Gambit.

Ya know, id actually agree with that.

If we wanna get techincal Blade was getting the better of Spitfire in H2H combat before she took adavantage of Blade whispering in her ear and Namor once called her the most dangerous member of the Invaders.

Originally posted by Trackz
I have the comic, he merely ascertains the situation..no more

I'm sorry you clearly missed the part where Logan can't even get Blade's name right or the part where he said "and they figured you for their best shot".

Not that this matters anyway since a tired disinterested Logan owned Blade.

Originally posted by Trackz

stated to be a stalemate by Blade, who's never been written to be one of pride, he admitted when he couldn't take on Draconis by himself and was nervous the entire fight, in his fight with Plokta he admitted they were too weak to take them on by himself, but just to appease you and wolverine fans we're to assume that Blade would for the first time fall on false pride in order to save himself? I hope you realize how much a joke this is.

the fight was stated to be a stalemate by employees at marvel as well, and yet we'll take the side of confirmed wolverine fanboys over theirs, that makes sense, ok.

That's nice. Shame there is a difference between how Blade thought he did and how he actually did. Same with the so called Marvel employees you seem to keep bringing up.

Originally posted by Trackz

I could easily find as many people who thought Blade won the fight and have seen people use the fight as evidence as Blade being superior to Wolverine on several other boards, however with Wolverine fans here thinking he's nothing shorts of low herald worthy, it's not hard to see why anyone would think that he "owned" blade in that fight.

Lol where was this......www.weloveblade.com?

Originally posted by Trackz

what I understand is that you don't read the character nor do you intend to, and base all of your knowledge off of what OTHER (blatantly biased) posters have told you about that character seeing as at the moment you're only regurgitating what either jinzin or srank stated in one vs. thread or another.

Pathetic.

So someone disagrees with you and the best you can do is claim they don't read the character?

......................wait you're correct.............I did use Blade's entire MAX series for loo paper before even bothering to read it. Thanks for the reminder. 🙄

How about actually providing evidence for Blade's 2nd tier worthiness instead of whining about jinzin or srank and making unfounded allegations?

Anyone with a brain can see Logan was very much the superior in that fight. For crying out loud Blade was on the floor dead to rights and with a seriously worried look on his face at the end. For goodness sake Logan even did him the courtesy of finding out if he had a healing factor before fighting him.

Originally posted by Trackz

since you have trouble constructing your own opinion I don't see why anyone even bother wasting their time with you

Irony.

Originally posted by Warrior18

Pathetic.

So someone disagrees with you and the best you can do is claim they don't read the character?

Hes completely justifed in saying that for starters if you actually read Blade you wouldnt be trying to use Blades superhuman stats as en excuse. Also if you read Punisher you would know that Punisher has had trouble with or lost against more no-name thugs and z-list characters, hes done this more often than Blade has and his enemies are weaker. In fact you probably knew that you just decided to forgot.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Hes completely justifed in saying that for starters if you actually read Blade you wouldnt be trying to use Blades superhuman stats as en excuse. Also if you read Punisher you would know that Punisher has had trouble with or lost against more no-name thugs and z-list characters, hes done this more often than Blade has and his enemies are weaker. In fact you probably knew that you just decided to forgot.

Superhuman stats as an "excuse" for what? Blade being able to beat Cyclops H2H? Cyclops not faring as well were he to go H2H against some of the people Blade has fought? You would be crazy to not think that would be a factor in the said hypothetical scenarios.

EDIT. Last I checked Cyclops was in tier 4 anyway............

You seem to do this a lot. Someone disagrees with you so therefore he doesn't read the character. Lame and an assumption.

To warrant a move to tier 2,Blade hasn't come up against anybody of serious worth or note (skillwise) and come away looking good.
Comprende?

Blade to 2nd tier sounds good to me.

Originally posted by Warrior18
Superhuman stats as an "excuse" for what? Blade being able to beat Cyclops H2H? Cyclops not faring as well were he to go H2H against some of the people Blade has fought? You would be crazy to not think that would be a factor in the said hypothetical scenarios.

EDIT. Last I checked Cyclops was in tier 4 anyway............

You seem to do this a lot. Someone disagrees with you so therefore he doesn't read the character. Lame and an assumption.

To warrant a move to tier 2,Blade hasn't come up against anybody of serious worth or note (skillwise) and come away looking good.
Comprende?

You're an idiot. I say that shit to you. I cant be arsed to debate with you and yet again you show lack of comprehension in understanding the points being made. Complete and utter waste of time. Oh and Cyclops maybe 4th tier now but you were arguing that he was as skillful as Blade.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Blade to 2nd tier sounds good to me.
agreed. I might make changes to the table tommorrow.

Originally posted by Warrior18
Superhuman stats as an "excuse" for what? Blade being able to beat Cyclops H2H? Cyclops not faring as well were he to go H2H against some of the people Blade has fought? You would be crazy to not think that would be a factor in the said hypothetical scenarios.

EDIT. Last I checked Cyclops was in tier 4 anyway............

You seem to do this a lot. Someone disagrees with you so therefore he doesn't read the character. Lame and an assumption.

To warrant a move to tier 2,Blade hasn't come up against anybody of serious worth or note (skillwise) and come away looking good.
Comprende?

Cyclops is in the KMC tier 4, which isnt a fair reflection of his abilities, imo.

Originally posted by Raoul
Cyclops is in the KMC tier 4, which isnt a fair reflection of his abilities, imo.

I would vote for Cyke in tier 3 and so would others probably. Hell they probably made tier 4 just not to put Blade up.

Blade is above Cyclops. Imo, it's lunacy to say otherwise...

The Blade hate is amuzing. Also Cyclops and Gambit need to be moved to 3rd tier.

Originally posted by Trackz

b) stated to be a stalemate on-panel...and by the employees at marvel, noy only that Blade wasn't even injured in the fight....unless you count the scratch he received compared to the stab/bullet wounds wolverine received that drove him into a berserker rage while n owehre in the fight did Blade vapm out.

oh please dont spout bull shit. Logan never once went beserker in that fight.

why are people pushing for blade to be moved up? What has he done for him to be 2nd tier in h2h prowesses?

I be more willing to move MK or Punisher up before blade.

I think fisk should be pump to second tier.

I also have no problem with SS being dropped a tier. People are correct he does not have the h2h feats to have his placement be in 2nd tier.

as for scot being moved that rediculous. He not even the most skilled individual in his tier.

Fourth Tier: (Trained Martial Artists) [27]
Batgirl (Barbara Gordon), Batwoman, Black Cat, Blink, Carol Danvers, Catwoman, Falcon, Gambit, Hawkgirl, Hawkman, Iron-Man,Misty Knight, Mystique, Tarantula, Thing.

all these guys character could easily be argued as superior in h2h skill then scot and falcon is most defiantly more skilled.

I also think we should dropped people from 2nd tier. I think the lower tiers should really have more then the higher tiers and so on. we should make cap's.

Gambit stalemated DareDevil and Blade had Wolverine beat.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
The Blade hate is amuzing. Also Cyclops and Gambit need to be moved to 3rd tier.

Not really. People simply overestimate him greatly which causes others to underestimate him in turn. However feat wise he simply not 2nd tier in h2h prowesses however if weapons were added he may very well be.

cyclopes and gambit arnt even the most skilled individuals in there tier.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Gambit stalemated DareDevil and Blade had Wolverine beat.
That's right. I forgot Gambit did stalemate DD.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Gambit stalemated DareDevil and Blade had Wolverine beat.

when did gambit stalemate DD in h2h?

Blade never had wolveirne beat have you even read the fight? Logan had jsut fought omega red and could have killed blade in his first attacks. He even went so far as to pull bakc his claws and simply punch blade in the face instead of stab him in the head. Then on top of that He had blade pinned to the ground and could have simply cut off his head.

I dont even want to get into that stupid debate again, but in no way did blade have any upper hand in that fight let a lone had Logan beat.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
That's right. I forgot Gambit did stalemate DD.

when?

Originally posted by snoopdogg That's right. I forgot Gambit did stalemate DD.
Yea it was in a Gambit issue.