Ranks for MAs

Gahhh.

I side with both Srank and Smurph. Non-comic material doesn't really belong on the list, but, then again, GI Joe is a hell of a lot more comic related than forgotten realms or buffy.

Meh.

I'm against bringing Mantis down, and is Gamora -> Uber defeated yet?

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
G.I. Joe has a long history of comics, including a 155 issue Marvel Comics run before the property was picked up by Image and DDP. You can't really compare something like Forgotten Realms to G.I. Joe. G.I. Joe has a separate comic continuity that has existed for more then 20, FR is just an adaption of the novels.

.....so does street fighter.

and adaption means it the original story just alter for comics.

it be hypocritical to allow Gi Joe and not forgotten realms or street fighter.

I don't really care if forgotten realms was on the list or not. it was the princable of the thing.

also I just wanted to know were people thought they would go. maybe I make a side thread on it. don't care if there on the list or not.

also keep gi joe on it since well it there so who cares.

also I kinda wanna know were heavy dutie would go.

Originally posted by Soljer
Gahhh.

I side with both Srank and Smurph. Non-comic material doesn't really belong on the list, but, then again, GI Joe is a hell of a lot more comic related than forgotten realms or buffy.

Meh.

Just going to ask....

but since in all likliehood every single bit of new canon to the Angel/buffyverse will be comic book form,should we consider adding them some time in the future?

Nope.

Current Hierarchy [173]

Cosmic Tier: (Transcendent Martial Artists) [4]
Gamora, Karate Kid, Mantis, Thanos

Uber Tier: (Unearthly Martial Artists) [7]
Kirigi (DC), Mandarin, Moondragon, O-Sensei, Ogun, Stick, Temugin

Top Tier: ("Greatest Martial Artists"😉 [18]
Batgirl (Cassandra Cain), Batman, Black Canary, Bronze Tiger, Captain America, Connor Hawke, Constantine Drakon, Daredevil, Elektra, Iron Fist, Lady Shiva, Richard Dragon, Shang Chi, Shen Kuei (The Cat), Snake-Eyes, Storm Shadow, Taskmaster, Wolverine

Second Tier: (Master Martial Artists) [54]
Adam Warlock, Agent X, Azrael, Backlash, Black Panther, Black Widow, Bullseye, Cable, Captain Mar-Vell, Champion of the Universe, Cheshire, Crossbones, Daken, David Cain, Deadpool, Deathstroke, Donatello, Echo, Eric Killmonger, Gorgon (Tomi Shishido), Green Arrow, Grifter, Jason Blood, Judomaster (Hadley Jagger), Karnak, Lady Deathstrike, Leonardo, Magnus, Merlyn (DC), Michaelangelo, Midnight Sun, Mr Sensitive, Natas, Nick Fury, Nightwing, Prometheus, Puck, Ra's al Ghul, Raphael, Ravager, Red Hood, Red Skull, Silver Samurai, Steel Serpent, Stone, Talia al Ghul, Twelve Brothers in Silk, White Tiger (Angela del Toro), Wildcat (Ted Grant), Winter Soldier, Wonder Woman, Vandal Savage, X-23, Zealot

Third Tier: (Highly Skilled Martial Artists) [56]
Ares, Arsenal, Bane, Beta Ray Bill, Black Bolt, Black Knight (Dane Whitman), Blade, Blue Beetle (Ted Kord), Colleen Wing, Damian Wayne, Doctor Mid-Nite, Doctor Strange, Domino, Donna Troy, Drax, Grendel (Hunter Rose), Hawkeye, Hawkman, Hercules, Huntress, Katana, KGBeast, Kingpin, Lady Vic, Loki, Matsu'o Tsurayaba, Midnighter, Mister America (Tex Thomson), Mister Terrific, Mockingbird, Moon Knight, Namor, Night Thrasher, Nightcrawler, Omega Red, Onyx, Psylocke, Punisher, The Question, Revanche, Robin (Tim Drake), Sabretooth, Shadowcat, Shatterstar, Shrike IV (Boone), Speedy (Mia Dearden), Spider-Woman (Jessica Drew), Stacy X, Terry McGinnis, Thena, Thor, US Agent, V, Viper (Madame Hydra), Wild Child, Wong

Fourth Tier: (Trained Martial Artists) [26]
Batgirl (Barbara Gordon), Batwoman, Black Cat, Blink, Blue Devil, Boom Boom, Cannonball, Carol Danvers, Catwoman, Colossus, Cyclops, Falcon, Gambit, Hawkgirl, Iron-Man, Jamie Madrox, Jubilee, Misty Knight, Mystique, She-Hulk, Starfire, Storm, Superman, Tarantula, Thing, Zauriel

Accomplished Fighter: (Little formal training/Some Skill) [9]
Apocalypse, Beast, Grace Choi, Hulk, Invisible Woman, Luke Cage, Monet St. Croix, Spider-Man, Strong Guy

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Proposed Changes (Votes For / Votes Against)
Mystique to Third: 1 [Smurph] / 1 [Srank]
Domino to Second: 2 [Smurph, jrodslam] / 1 [srank]
Ares to second tier: 2 [TP, llagrok] / 1 [capt]
Mar-Vell to uber: 1 [bran] / 1 [srank]
Warlock to uber: 2 [bran, ll] / 1 [srank]
Mantis down to uber: 3 [Soljer, Xmarks, Srank] / 2 [bran, Smurph]
Kingpin to second: 2 [jrod, srank] / 3 [capt, llag, Macoy]
Thanos to Uber(lower?): 2 [srank, Soljer] / 0
Beast to Forth: 3 [Blair, Smurph, Switch] / 1 [jrod]
Iron Man to accomplished 3 [blair, Smurph, Switch] / 2 [Jrod, Llag?]
Hawkman to second: 1 [mungi] / 0
Zealot to top tier: 2 [Srank, Switch] / 0

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Additions:

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Notes:
-I'm considering Gamora to Uber defeated for now, four to one.
-We have two 'non marvel/dc top tier' spots open. Feel free to make nominations, or vote for Zealot or any other character that is neither marvel nor DC to fill these two spots.
-GI Joe - leave 'em or remove 'em?

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Bumping the list. It got buried under bitching. Again.

Proposed Changes (Votes For / Votes Against)
Mystique to Third: 2 [Smurph, ll] / 1 [Srank]
Domino to Second: 2 [Smurph, jrodslam] / 1 [srank]
Ares to second tier: 2 [TP, llagrok] / 1 [capt]
Mar-Vell to uber: 2 [bran,ll] / 1 [srank]
Warlock to uber: 2 [bran, ll] / 1 [srank]
Mantis down to uber: 3 [Soljer, Xmarks, Srank] / 3 [bran,ll, Smurph]
Kingpin to second: 2 [jrod, srank] / 3 [capt, llag, Macoy]
Thanos to Uber(lower?): 3 [srank,ll, Soljer] / 0
Beast to Forth: 3 [Blair, Smurph, Switch] / 1 [jrod]
Iron Man to accomplished 3 [blair, Smurph, Switch] / 2 [Jrod, Llag?]
Hawkman to second: 1 [mungi] / 1 [llagrok]
Zealot to top tier: 2 [Srank, Switch] / 0

Yes - mystique to Third
Yes - Mar-Vell to über
Yes - Mantis down to über
Yes Thanos to über
No - Hawkman to second

Proposed changes:

Hercules to second (replace Cable?)
Adam Warlock to top (replace ?)

kingpin to second.

iron man to accomplished

keep GI Joe's

beast to fourth

Originally posted by Battlehammer
kingpin to second.

iron man to accomplished

keep GI Joe's

beast to fourth

Proposed Changes (Votes For / Votes Against)
Mystique to Third: 2 [Smurph, ll] / 1 [Srank]
Domino to Second: 2 [Smurph, jrodslam] / 1 [srank]
Ares to second tier: 2 [TP, llagrok] / 1 [capt]
Mar-Vell to uber: 2 [bran,ll] / 1 [srank]
Warlock to uber: 2 [bran, ll] / 1 [srank]
Mantis down to uber: 3 [Soljer, Xmarks, Srank] / 3 [bran,ll, Smurph]
Kingpin to second: 3 [jrod, capt, srank] / 2 [, llag, Macoy]
Thanos to Uber(lower?): 3 [srank,ll, Soljer] / 0
Beast to Forth: 4 [Capt, Blair, Smurph, Switch] / 1 [jrod]
Iron Man to accomplished 4 [blair, capt Smurph, Switch] / 1 [Jrod,]
Hawkman to second: 1 [mungi] / 1 [llagrok]
Zealot to top tier: 2 [Srank, Switch] / 0

*scratches his head* Not why why there would be any votes against Hawkman to second tier as he has beat several people in the same tier through hand to hand.

who has he bested in h2h in the second tier and again was it skill ?

Originally posted by Battlehammer
who has he bested in h2h in the second tier and again was it skill ?

Vandal Savage [twice] and yes I even posted the scans earlier..here's my post again

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Here Hawkman beats Aquaman and Savage h2h

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[B]Battles
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Hawkman #15 [Vol.3]: Aquaman (Hawkman: Holl)
Hawkman tracks down the avatar of the Baracuda, but must go through Aquaman who was friends with him until he found out he was a child molestor. Hawkman schools Aquaman

1. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/Hawkman-v3-015-13.jpg
2. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/Hawkman-v3-015-14.jpg
3. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/Hawkman-v3-015-15.jpg
4. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/Hawkman-v3-015-16.jpg
5. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/Hawkman-v3-015-17.jpg
6. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/Hawkman-v3-015-18.jpg
7. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/Hawkman-v3-015-19.jpg
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Hawkman #30 [Vol.3]: Vandal Savage [Hawkman (Holl)]
Hawkman tracks down Vandal Savage as he was the one responsible for killing all the "Hawk's" in the past, which later is retconned it being Hath-Set. So Hawkman goes to get revenge as he has all the "Hawk's" memories in his head, and must decide if he is a killer or to spare him.

1. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/Hawkman-v3-030-04.jpg
2. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/Hawkman-v3-030-05.jpg
3. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/Hawkman-v3-030-06.jpg
4. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/Hawkman-v3-030-08.jpg
5. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/Hawkman-v3-030-09.jpg
6. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/Hawkman-v3-030-13.jpg
7. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/Hawkman-v3-030-14.jpg
8. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/Hawkman-v3-030-15.jpg
9. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/Hawkman-v3-030-16.jpg

For the hell of it.....

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Battles
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JLA #30 (Vol.1): Johnny Quick (Hall)
Here Hawkman defeats the Flash-level character from the Crime Syndicate of America of Earth III by using various methods to get him off his feet

1. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/JLA030-800-03.jpg
2. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/JLA030-800-04.jpg
3. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/JLA030-800-05.jpg
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JLA #38 (Vol.1): Martian Manhunter (Hall)
Here Hawkman defeats the criminal J’onn J’onzz of the Lawless League of Earth-A

1. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/JLAv1038-04.jpg
2. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/JLAv1038-05.jpg
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Hawkman #23 [Vol.4]: Black Adam (Hall)
Hawkman uses a Green Lantern mace construct and starts bashing the weakened Black Adam

1. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/hawkmanv4_25_pyrate_p11.jpg
2. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/hawkmanv4_25_pyrate_p12.jpg
3. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/hawkmanv4_25_pyrate_p13.jpg
4. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/hawkmanv4_25_pyrate_p14.jpg
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Hawkman #45 [Vol.4]: Golden Eagle (Hall)
In a plan laid out by Golden Eagle he believed he killed Hawkman betraying them. However, Carter was to smart for him and faked his death and made his return well...kicking Golden Eagle's ass. Now that's ownage

1. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/HawkmanV5045page02.jpg
2. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/HawkmanV5045page03.jpg
3. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/HawkmanV5045page04.jpg
4. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/HawkmanV5045page05.jpg
5. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/HawkmanV5045page06.jpg
6. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/HawkmanV5045page07.jpg
7. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/HawkmanV5045page08.jpg
8. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/HawkmanV5045page09.jpg
9. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/HawkmanV5045page10.jpg
10. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/HawkmanV5045page11_12.jpg
11. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/HawkmanV5045page13.jpg
12. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/HawkmanV5045page14.jpg
13. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/HawkmanV5045page15.jpg
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Hawkman #47 [Vol.4]: Gordanian Army (Hall)
During the Rann/Thanagar War, Hawkman steps up and takes on a whole army of Gordanians which had over a thousand soliders. Well he beats them....and with ease. Man what a badass

1. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/hm-47-003.jpg
2. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/hm-47-004.jpg
3. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/hm-47-005.jpg
4. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/hm-47-006.jpg
5. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/hm-47-007.jpg
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Hawkman #43 [Vol.4]: Lionmane (Hall)
Beliving to have killed Carter in a mission created by Golden Eagle, Lionmane goes to the Congo to live. However, Carter isn't dead he only pretended to be and he's pissed...which is horrible for Lionmane..just horrible.

1. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/HawkmanV4043page19.jpg
2. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/HawkmanV4043page20.jpg
3. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/HawkmanV4043page21.jpg
4. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/HawkmanV4043page22.jpg
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Originally posted by King_Mungi
*scratches his head* Not why why there would be any votes against Hawkman to second tier as he has beat several people in the same tier through hand to hand.

I'm sorry, I thought it said Hawkeye.

The next one who updates the changes can edit me over to the pro-side.

Current Hierarchy [173]

Cosmic Tier: (Transcendent Martial Artists) [4]
Gamora, Karate Kid, Mantis, Thanos

Uber Tier: (Unearthly Martial Artists) [7]
Kirigi (DC), Mandarin, Moondragon, O-Sensei, Ogun, Stick, Temugin

Top Tier: ("Greatest Martial Artists"😉 [18]
Batgirl (Cassandra Cain), Batman, Black Canary, Bronze Tiger, Captain America, Connor Hawke, Constantine Drakon, Daredevil, Elektra, Iron Fist, Lady Shiva, Richard Dragon, Shang Chi, Shen Kuei (The Cat), Snake-Eyes, Storm Shadow, Taskmaster, Wolverine

Second Tier: (Master Martial Artists) [54]
Adam Warlock, Agent X, Azrael, Backlash, Black Panther, Black Widow, Bullseye, Cable, Captain Mar-Vell, Champion of the Universe, Cheshire, Crossbones, Daken, David Cain, Deadpool, Deathstroke, Donatello, Echo, Eric Killmonger, Gorgon (Tomi Shishido), Green Arrow, Grifter, Jason Blood, Judomaster (Hadley Jagger), Karnak, Lady Deathstrike, Leonardo, Magnus, Merlyn (DC), Michaelangelo, Midnight Sun, Mr Sensitive, Natas, Nick Fury, Nightwing, Prometheus, Puck, Ra's al Ghul, Raphael, Ravager, Red Hood, Red Skull, Silver Samurai, Steel Serpent, Stone, Talia al Ghul, Twelve Brothers in Silk, White Tiger (Angela del Toro), Wildcat (Ted Grant), Winter Soldier, Wonder Woman, Vandal Savage, X-23, Zealot

Third Tier: (Highly Skilled Martial Artists) [56]
Ares, Arsenal, Bane, Beta Ray Bill, Black Bolt, Black Knight (Dane Whitman), Blade, Blue Beetle (Ted Kord), Colleen Wing, Damian Wayne, Doctor Mid-Nite, Doctor Strange, Domino, Donna Troy, Drax, Grendel (Hunter Rose), Hawkeye, Hawkman, Hercules, Huntress, Katana, KGBeast, Kingpin, Lady Vic, Loki, Matsu'o Tsurayaba, Midnighter, Mister America (Tex Thomson), Mister Terrific, Mockingbird, Moon Knight, Namor, Night Thrasher, Nightcrawler, Omega Red, Onyx, Psylocke, Punisher, The Question, Revanche, Robin (Tim Drake), Sabretooth, Shadowcat, Shatterstar, Shrike IV (Boone), Speedy (Mia Dearden), Spider-Woman (Jessica Drew), Stacy X, Terry McGinnis, Thena, Thor, US Agent, V, Viper (Madame Hydra), Wild Child, Wong

Fourth Tier: (Trained Martial Artists) [26]
Batgirl (Barbara Gordon), Batwoman, Black Cat, Blink, Blue Devil, Boom Boom, Cannonball, Carol Danvers, Catwoman, Colossus, Cyclops, Falcon, Gambit, Hawkgirl, Iron-Man, Jamie Madrox, Jubilee, Misty Knight, Mystique, She-Hulk, Starfire, Storm, Superman, Tarantula, Thing, Zauriel

Accomplished Fighter: (Little formal training/Some Skill) [9]
Apocalypse, Beast, Grace Choi, Hulk, Invisible Woman, Luke Cage, Monet St. Croix, Spider-Man, Strong Guy

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Proposed Changes (Votes For / Votes Against)
Mystique to Third: 2 [Smurph, Llag] / 1 [Srank]
Domino to Second: 2 [Smurph, jrodslam] / 1 [srank]
Ares to second tier: 2 [TP, llagrok] / 1 [capt]
Mar-Vell to uber: 2 [bran, llag] / 1 [srank]
Warlock to uber: 2 [bran, ll] / 1 [srank]
Mantis down to uber: 4 [Soljer, Xmarks, Srank, llag] / 2 [bran, Smurph]
Kingpin to second: 3 [jrod, srank, capt] / 2 [llag, Macoy]
Thanos to Uber(lower?): 3 [srank, Soljer, llag] / 0
Beast to Forth: 4 [Blair, Smurph, Switch, capt] / 1 [jrod]
Iron Man to accomplished 4 [blair, Smurph, Switch, Capt] / 1 [Jrod]
Hawkman to second: 2 [mungi, llag] / 0
Zealot to top tier: 2 [Srank, Switch] / 0
Hercules to second: 1 [llag] / 0
Cable to third: 1 [llag] / 1 [Soljer]

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Additions:

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Notes:
-We have two 'non marvel/dc top tier' spots open. Feel free to make nominations, or vote for Zealot or any other character that is neither marvel nor DC to fill these two spots.
-GI Joe - leave 'em or remove 'em?
-I didn't add the proposed change for warlock, no one was specified for him to replace.
-Beast and Ironman are currently 4/1 each, if no objections are placed by the next update, they'll be moved.
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im against cable to third the moment.

GI Joe can remain I vote for.

Originally posted by Soljer
[b]Current Hierarchy [173]

Cosmic Tier: (Transcendent Martial Artists) [4]
Gamora, Karate Kid, Mantis, Thanos

Uber Tier: (Unearthly Martial Artists) [7]
Kirigi (DC), Mandarin, Moondragon, O-Sensei, Ogun, Stick, Temugin

Top Tier: ("Greatest Martial Artists"😉 [18]
Batgirl (Cassandra Cain), Batman, Black Canary, Bronze Tiger, Captain America, Connor Hawke, Constantine Drakon, Daredevil, Elektra, Iron Fist, Lady Shiva, Richard Dragon, Shang Chi, Shen Kuei (The Cat), Snake-Eyes, Storm Shadow, Taskmaster, Wolverine

Second Tier: (Master Martial Artists) [54]
Adam Warlock, Agent X, Azrael, Backlash, Black Panther, Black Widow, Bullseye, Cable, Captain Mar-Vell, Champion of the Universe, Cheshire, Crossbones, Daken, David Cain, Deadpool, Deathstroke, Donatello, Echo, Eric Killmonger, Gorgon (Tomi Shishido), Green Arrow, Grifter, Jason Blood, Judomaster (Hadley Jagger), Karnak, Lady Deathstrike, Leonardo, Magnus, Merlyn (DC), Michaelangelo, Midnight Sun, Mr Sensitive, Natas, Nick Fury, Nightwing, Prometheus, Puck, Ra's al Ghul, Raphael, Ravager, Red Hood, Red Skull, Silver Samurai, Steel Serpent, Stone, Talia al Ghul, Twelve Brothers in Silk, White Tiger (Angela del Toro), Wildcat (Ted Grant), Winter Soldier, Wonder Woman, Vandal Savage, X-23, Zealot

Third Tier: (Highly Skilled Martial Artists) [56]
Ares, Arsenal, Bane, Beta Ray Bill, Black Bolt, Black Knight (Dane Whitman), Blade, Blue Beetle (Ted Kord), Colleen Wing, Damian Wayne, Doctor Mid-Nite, Doctor Strange, Domino, Donna Troy, Drax, Grendel (Hunter Rose), Hawkeye, Hawkman, Hercules, Huntress, Katana, KGBeast, Kingpin, Lady Vic, Loki, Matsu'o Tsurayaba, Midnighter, Mister America (Tex Thomson), Mister Terrific, Mockingbird, Moon Knight, Namor, Night Thrasher, Nightcrawler, Omega Red, Onyx, Psylocke, Punisher, The Question, Revanche, Robin (Tim Drake), Sabretooth, Shadowcat, Shatterstar, Shrike IV (Boone), Speedy (Mia Dearden), Spider-Woman (Jessica Drew), Stacy X, Terry McGinnis, Thena, Thor, US Agent, V, Viper (Madame Hydra), Wild Child, Wong

Fourth Tier: (Trained Martial Artists) [26]
Batgirl (Barbara Gordon), Batwoman, Black Cat, Blink, Blue Devil, Boom Boom, Cannonball, Carol Danvers, Catwoman, Colossus, Cyclops, Falcon, Gambit, Hawkgirl, Iron-Man, Jamie Madrox, Jubilee, Misty Knight, Mystique, She-Hulk, Starfire, Storm, Superman, Tarantula, Thing, Zauriel

Accomplished Fighter: (Little formal training/Some Skill) [9]
Apocalypse, Beast, Grace Choi, Hulk, Invisible Woman, Luke Cage, Monet St. Croix, Spider-Man, Strong Guy

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Proposed Changes (Votes For / Votes Against)
Mystique to Third: 2 [Smurph, Llag] / 1 [Srank]
Domino to Second: 2 [Smurph, jrodslam] / 1 [srank]
Ares to second tier: 2 [TP, llagrok] / 1 [capt]
Mar-Vell to uber: 2 [bran, llag] / 1 [srank]
Warlock to uber: 2 [bran, ll] / 1 [srank]
Mantis down to uber: 4 [Soljer, Xmarks, Srank, llag] / 2 [bran, Smurph]
Kingpin to second: 3 [jrod, srank, capt] / 2 [llag, Macoy]
Thanos to Uber(lower?): 3 [srank, Soljer, llag] / 0
Beast to Forth: 4 [Blair, Smurph, Switch, capt] / 1 [jrod]
Iron Man to accomplished 4 [blair, Smurph, Switch, Capt] / 1 [Jrod]
Hawkman to second: 2 [mungi, llag] / 0
Zealot to top tier: 2 [Srank, Switch] / 0
Hercules to second: 1 [llag] / 0
Cable to third: 1 [llag] / 1 [Soljer]

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Additions:

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Notes:
-We have two 'non marvel/dc top tier' spots open. Feel free to make nominations, or vote for Zealot or any other character that is neither marvel nor DC to fill these two spots.
-GI Joe - leave 'em or remove 'em?
-I didn't add the proposed change for warlock, no one was specified for him to replace.
-Beast and Ironman are currently 4/1 each, if no objections are placed by the next update, they'll be moved.
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Tony moved down!!

Originally posted by Switch 07
Tony moved down!!

I already have your vote for Iron Man moving down. Also; please try to refrain from quoting the list.

Originally posted by Soljer
I already have your vote for Iron Man moving down. Also; please try to refrain from quoting the list.