Originally posted by Martian_mind
He is uber seriously.I remember rictor walking in and Cable is training against two robots on the highest setting and Rictor thinks "No man could possibly survive that!" then Cable owns them.
Cable pwns.
Originally posted by Martian_mind
He Fought his way through the dark riders......plus he once through a Katana withe perfect aim,so that it pioned a man to a tree by catching his robe exactly beneath his testicles.
Those feats don't make him top tier.
It puts him on Wolverine's level,Isn't that top-tier?
Cable didn't take a hit either and theses were the best warriors in the world.
Hell a Cable with no powers who was being torn apart from the inside out was able to block a kick from deadpool and then in 2 moves put him out of the fight for awhile,then when DP came back,Cable caught his kick and threw him 50 feet long and two stories high.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
[b]Third tier: (Moderate to Highly Skilled)
Bane, Green Arrow, Kingpin, Lady Deathstrike, Night Thrasher, Nightwing, Midnighter, Punisher, Psylocke, Red Hood, Robin, Shadowcat, US Agent
[/B]
Originally posted by Wally West
Nightwing is far beyond "Moderate to Highly Skilled", he is a [b]Master of many martial arts, and has knowledge of pretty much every form of combat that Batman knows. He can't be placed in the same tier as Robin and Punisher, he is one of DC's very best. I don't see why in terms of purely martial arts ability he shouldn't be in the same tier as DareDevil, I think Nightwing's martial arts knowledge is probably superior to his. Green Arrow is a martials arts master as well. [/B]
Nightwing should be in the same tier as batman, he could be better at this point,not in mastering forms but in a one on one fight H2H(yes its debatable)
He was younger than bruce when he started,he had acrobatic training as a child,he was trained by the best of the best,he has grown into an adult in the very pages of the comics over 40 years(real life hehe),no character from any universe has his experience and training,without coming from nowhere,its easy to make a new character and say hey he is one of the best or even an adult in the comics,by showing Dick get older we have to beleive so are the adults he grew up with, batman is starting to give hints at him being better
just my opinon, i dont hold to any of the tiers or systems that created them,but Nightwing is one of the best
Originally posted by starlockLast time he ran into Bruce, he couldn't land a hit and Bruce ran the show. But then again, that happens to most any Martial Artist once Bruce gets serious.
Nightwing should be in the same tier as batman, he could be better at this point,not in mastering forms but in a one on one fight H2H(yes its debatable)He was younger than bruce when he started,he had acrobatic training as a child,he was trained by the best of the best,he has grown into an adult in the very pages of the comics over 40 years(real life hehe),no character from any universe has his experience and training,without coming from nowhere,its easy to make a new character and say hey he is one of the best or even an adult in the comics,by showing Dick get older we have to beleive so are the adults he grew up with, batman is starting to give hints at him being better
just my opinon, i dont hold to any of the tiers or systems that created them,but Nightwing is one of the best
I gotta agree with everything Wally said a couple posts up however.
Originally posted by Martian_mind
It puts him on Wolverine's level,Isn't that top-tier?
Originally posted by Martian_mind
Cable didn't take a hit either and theses were the best warriors in the world.
Originally posted by Martian_mind
Hell a Cable with no powers who was being torn apart from the inside out was able to block a kick from deadpool and then in 2 moves put him out of the fight for awhile,then when DP came back,Cable caught his kick and threw him 50 feet long and two stories high.
Originally posted by starlock
Nightwing should be in the same tier as batman, he could be better at this point,not in mastering forms but in a one on one fight H2H(yes its debatable)He was younger than bruce when he started,he had acrobatic training as a child,he was trained by the best of the best,he has grown into an adult in the very pages of the comics over 40 years(real life hehe),no character from any universe has his experience and training,without coming from nowhere,its easy to make a new character and say hey he is one of the best or even an adult in the comics,by showing Dick get older we have to beleive so are the adults he grew up with, batman is starting to give hints at him being better
just my opinon, i dont hold to any of the tiers or systems that created them,but Nightwing is one of the best
Originally posted by capt it up
how does that put him on wolverines level?hand ninjas are the best ninjas and assassins in the world. What cable fought was in no way superior to what wolverine has done loads of times.
thats not skill that has to do with his powers........
I listed some accomplishments....and you listed some that tied them,so they are on the same level.
Maybe in title,but as you so often tell me words aren't important.......
No,he was a weak,feeble person by this stage with NO powers,all skill from a dying man who's muscles were breaking down.
Originally posted by Martian_mind
I listed some accomplishments....and you listed some that tied them,so they are on the same level.Maybe in title,but as you so often tell me words aren't important.......
No,he was a weak,feeble person by this stage with NO powers,all skill from a dying man who's muscles were breaking down.
ya I do and the guys cable beat were hardly the best fighters either.
so he through dead pool 50 feet with skill? Come on even you know that BS.
Being able to beat uber-high fighting machines,have perfect aim and stalemate Wolverine don't make you Top-tier?
They we're stated as the best.....Cable has a history of stalemating the best if you catch my drift...
It is.Still a showing though,and one that isn't that unbelievable considering who cable is and who he was fighting.
Originally posted by Martian_mind
Being able to beat uber-high fighting machines,have perfect aim and stalemate Wolverine don't make you Top-tier?They we're stated as the best.....Cable has a history of stalemating the best if you catch my drift...
It is.Still a showing though,and one that isn't that unbelievable considering who cable is and who he was fighting.
again stated as the best mean nothing. Hand ninja are stated as the best ninjas and assassins in the world. That feats not impressive.
again beat DP is not that impressive the guy an idiot all the time. He not a good judge of abilities.
your feats are good, but that not gunna make him top tier it his over all feats. he may have them I still reading over his character.
stalmating wolverine does not make him wolverines level. One time feats don't make a character.
He's Stalemated him several times before,and held his own against Wolverine and Bishop at the same time.When You stalemate someone who has nearly all physical advantages over you then odds are your atleast as skilled.
Deadpool is being taken into account because he has Superhuman strength,so if Dp does his hardest kick and Cable redirects the momentum then it's not that rediculous....
Overall he is in it.Experience allowed him to outmanouver Xmaan,he's fought Apocalypse across time and space without dying....he is overall a top-tier,finish reading his comics and you'll see...
Originally posted by Martian_mind
He's Stalemated him several times before,and held his own against Wolverine and Bishop at the same time.When You stalemate someone who has nearly all physical advantages over you then odds are your atleast as skilled.Deadpool is being taken into account because he has Superhuman strength,so if Dp does his hardest kick and Cable redirects the momentum then it's not that rediculous....
Overall he is in it.Experience allowed him to outmanouver Xmaan,he's fought Apocalypse across time and space without dying....he is overall a top-tier,finish reading his comics and you'll see...
deadpool superhuman strength is under wolverines so thats not really that impressive seeing how storng cable is.........
outmanouver x-men? The kid was a freaking amuater he was not some uber fighter. I will finish reading them as asoon as possiable