KMC Comic Book Tiers

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Creshosk Senior Member

Originally posted by DigiMark007
I'm not sure that = High Meta...there's a fair number even in mid that could be considered low Class 100's. But that's definitely the right area, and either one would likely be appropriate. Hopefully other people will add their thoughts.

Also, I'm updating page 1 with the list Val posted. Thanks.

Well, I was thinking that se'd be high meta based on being a low class 100 with a comparable durability, much like some of the other high metas. But unlike some of the other high metas that a re low c-100s she can also fly and shrink people.

llagrok Restricted

Being high meta should require a certain amount of skill and experience as well.

Symmetric Chaos Fractal King

Originally posted by Soljer
That's not what I said.

Annihilation is not accompanied by a rapidly increasing volume. An explosion is. Annihilation is, simply put, the conversion of a certain amount of matter's rest mass into an equivalent amount of energy. It's a very energetic 'reaction,' but one that does not create an increasing volume.

'Kay.

Still blows ya ta bits when it happens though. I don't think people standing around would be able to tell that a reaction was happening rather than an explosion.

Creshosk Senior Member

Originally posted by llagrok
Being high meta should require a certain amount of skill and experience as well.
It's still Jubilation "Jubilee" Lee.

She's still the olympic level gymnist who can make fools of ninjas, and has beaten shi'ar(possible skrull) guards
canon fodder I know but she's not unskilled.

Plus she's been with the X-Men for a good portion of her life.

From:
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/6651/xmenan1346rx3.jpg
to
http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/7684/scan0021jq7.jpg

So she's not entirely inexperienced.

Soljer Beware my Power

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
'Kay.

Still blows ya ta bits when it happens though. I don't think people standing around would be able to tell that a reaction was happening rather than an explosion.

Never said that it wasn't incredibly energetic.

Just that it wasn't an explosion. 🙂.

nvrbeenwthagirl Restricted

I nominate Zealot for Low Meta or High Street. haven't figured it yet since she does have superstrength and some resistance and is uberly skilled.

llagrok Restricted

Originally posted by Creshosk
It's still Jubilation "Jubilee" Lee.

She's still the olympic level gymnist who can make fools of ninjas, and has beaten shi'ar(possible skrull) guards
canon fodder I know but she's not unskilled.

Plus she's been with the X-Men for a good portion of her life.

From:
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/6651/xmenan1346rx3.jpg
to
http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/7684/scan0021jq7.jpg

So she's not entirely inexperienced.

Still..

Symmetric Chaos Fractal King

Originally posted by Soljer
Never said that it wasn't incredibly energetic.

Just that it wasn't an explosion. 🙂.

Hence the half-truth 😬

😛

Soljer Beware my Power

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Hence the half-truth 😬

😛

No, because I believe, in fact, I mentioned that annihilation was highly energetic - however, even if I didn't, it should be common knowledge, and, thus, be unnecessary to mention.

Creshosk Senior Member
Originally posted by llagrok
Still..

Metahuman (Mid-tier "Iron Man" level)

High
Abomination, Adam Strange, Aquaman, Ares (Marvel), Atlas, Aurora, Batman 1 Million, Battalion (Jackson King), Blastaar, Blob, BOX I (Roger Bochs), Captain Britain, Captain Marvel Jr, Colossus, Death's Head II, Donna Troy, Emma Frost, Ghost Rider II, Grim Reaper, Guardian II (Heather Hudson), Havok, Hellstrike, Hercules (Mortal), Holocaust, The Human Torch, Invisible Woman, Iron-Man, Jean Grey (sans Phoenix), Jenny Sparks, Juggernaut (Depowered), Kang, Living Laser, Manbot, Mandarin, Mary Marvel, Maul, Mercer Drake, Metallo, Mimic (Exiles), Miss Martian, Mr. Fantastic, Mr. Sinister, Namor the Sub-Mariner, Nightshade, Nimrod, Northstar, Ocean Master, Osiris, Pitt, Polaris, Power Girl, Psylocke, Radioactive Man, Sand, Sasquatch, Shassa, She-Hulk, Starfire, Storm, Supernova, Temugin, The Thing, Thunderstrike, The Tick, Ulik, Ultimo, Vision, War Machine, Windshear, Wonder Man, Zzaxx

Skill eh? She's an olympic level gymnist. What's their excuse?

llagrok Restricted

Blob's excuse is that he's near impossible to move and doesn't feel pain.

Abomination's excuse is the fact that he has a healing factor and is a class 160 at least.

The Tick has his drama power.

Creshosk Senior Member

Originally posted by llagrok
Blob's excuse is that he's near impossible to move and doesn't feel pain.

Abomination's excuse is the fact that he has a healing factor and is a class 160 at least.

The Tick has his drama power.

So their placement has nothing to do with skill or experience? hmm

TricksterPriest Renegade Timelord

Skill&experience help, but they're more of a secondary consideration.

Creshosk Senior Member

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Skill&experience help, but they're more of a secondary consideration.
So what would you say about Wondra's placement?

llagrok Restricted
Originally posted by Creshosk
So their placement has nothing to do with skill or experience? hmm

No, but it still earns them a spot on the High Tier list.

As far as car throwing goes, that doesn't necessarily put her in the class 100 range, does it?

DigiMark007 Forum Leader

Originally posted by Creshosk
Metahuman (Mid-tier "Iron Man" level)

High
Abomination, Adam Strange, Aquaman, Ares (Marvel), Atlas, Aurora, Batman 1 Million, Battalion (Jackson King), Blastaar, Blob, BOX I (Roger Bochs), Captain Britain, Captain Marvel Jr, Colossus, Death's Head II, Donna Troy, Emma Frost, Ghost Rider II, Grim Reaper, Guardian II (Heather Hudson), Havok, Hellstrike, Hercules (Mortal), Holocaust, The Human Torch, Invisible Woman, Iron-Man, Jean Grey (sans Phoenix), Jenny Sparks, Juggernaut (Depowered), Kang, Living Laser, Manbot, Mandarin, Mary Marvel, Maul, Mercer Drake, Metallo, Mimic (Exiles), Miss Martian, Mr. Fantastic, Mr. Sinister, Namor the Sub-Mariner, Nightshade, Nimrod, Northstar, Ocean Master, Osiris, Pitt, Polaris, Power Girl, Psylocke, Radioactive Man, Sand, Sasquatch, Shassa, She-Hulk, Starfire, Storm, Supernova, Temugin, The Thing, Thunderstrike, The Tick, Ulik, Ultimo, Vision, War Machine, Windshear, Wonder Man, Zzaxx

Skill eh? She's an olympic level gymnist. What's their excuse?

Skill aside (who doesn't have some skill on these lists?) Tick and Abomination are well beyond her in terms of strength and durability...even if their skill is somewhat lower. Tick has no discernable durability limit, and can probably take more punishment than many herald-levelers. His total lack of intelligence and versatility is the only thing keeping him from being higher. Abomination is much further beyond Class 100 than, say, 200 tons.

Blob....meh. Maybe he should be bumped down. He'd get rocked by most of the people on his level.

{edit} Yeah, I convinced myself. 1 vote for moving down Blob.

In any case, I like Jube's. She's one of the few mutants I don't despise. But my vote stays at Mid.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I nominate Zealot for Low Meta or High Street. haven't figured it yet since she does have superstrength and some resistance and is uberly skilled.

Sounds good. Other thoughts?

TricksterPriest Renegade Timelord

His drama power also helps Tick in a pinch. And weren't you the one who told me that the Tick's only ever been physically hurt by someone grabbing his antenna?

And co-signed on Blob. Fat bastard never really did shit. 😛 2 votes for blob down.

3 votes for Zealot. Don't care where.

1 vote for Mantis (DC) for high herald.

DigiMark007 Forum Leader

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
His drama power also helps Tick in a pinch. And weren't you the one who told me that the Tick's only ever been physically hurt by someone grabbing his antenna?

And co-signed on Blob. Fat bastard never really did shit. 😛 2 votes for blob down.

It wasn't actually "physical" harm. Messing with his antenna screws up his balance a ton so that he can't function correctly. It still doesn't really do anything towards KO'ing him.

Then again, sh*t falling on him should mess up his antenna something fierce, and he's shrugged that off multiple times, so it's really an inconsistently-written vulnerability.

Anyway:
- 2 Votes for Blob down to Mid
- Jury's still out on Wondra. How powerful is this shrinking stuff?

Creshosk Senior Member

Originally posted by llagrok
No, but it still earns them a spot on the High Tier list.

As far as car throwing goes, that doesn't necessarily put her in the class 100 range, does it?

Car throwing?

http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/441/scan0004jc5.jpg
http://westernrailinc.com/loci14.htm

Lifting the 130+ ton freight engine over her head is the thing that would.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
- Jury's still out on Wondra. How powerful is this shrinking stuff?
I'm not sure what you're asking for exactly. They lasted until dispelled by Yellowjacket himself.

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Endless Mike Sqirrel Girl fanboy

I thought we agreed that Gold Key Solar was Low Herald