Originally posted by SnazzySmurph
Sersi to Mid Herald so far is 3 (Y), 0 (N).Can we move her?
Dr. Manhattan to Trans: 2 (Y), 0 (N)
Mr. Sinister to Low Herald: 1 (Y), 1 (N)
This is the last tally I saw. Sersi and Manhattan can both move up, since I'm adding my vote to them as well. Anyone who wants to move them and post an updated list is free to do so.
I vote no on Sinister though.
And the Hulk discussion will likely spiral into chaos, but I'm not totally opposed to voting him to mid (but I'm not officially casting my vote yet).
Originally posted by DigiMark007Technically we'd be moving Manhattan down, because iirc, he was last voted as a Skyfather. My opinion is that he's too much of a n00b, and CIS-inhibited. That, and he doesn't have half the feats to back up the hype, seeing as Moore really didn't care about giving feats for the sake of feats.
This is the last tally I saw. Sersi and Manhattan can both move up, since I'm adding my vote to them as well. Anyone who wants to move them and post an updated list is free to do so.I vote no on Sinister though.
And the Hulk discussion will likely spiral into chaos, but I'm not totally opposed to voting him to mid (but I'm not officially casting my vote yet).
Originally posted by Harry Fingerman
Question about earlier...What the hell has Mogo done, that even warrants him a spot, anywhere on any list?
Mogo has the second largest powers source next to the oan battery. He's more powerful than the gaurdians themselves. And each one of them equal the power of 100 gl's. maybe more now. dont' know the numbers any more.
Sub-Skyfather (Transcendent)
Amazo, Appolyon, The Asgardian Destroyer, Black Racer, Blackheart, Blaze, Circe, Count Abyss, Death Urge, Despero, The Doctor, Dr. Fate, Dr. Manhattan, Dr. Strange (classic), Eclipso, Elders of the Universe (minus Ego), Fernus, The General (Shaggy Man), Gog, Gray Man, High Evolutionary, Ion (current), Jenny Quantum, The Keeper, King Thor, Magus (original), Mangog, Mongul I (Pre Crisis), Nightmare, Onimar Synn, Onslaught, Queen of Fables, Resurrection Man 1 Million, Sentinel (Alan Scott), Silver Age Kryptonians/Daxamites, Solomon Grundy (Peak), Solusandra, Stayne, Strange Visitor, Sun Eater, Superboy Prime, Superman 1 Million, Takion, Talisman, Thanos, Tyrant (powered down), Validus
Herald
High
Adam Warlock, Baron Zemo (w/ Moonstones), Cyborg Superman, The Eradicator (Fortress Mode), Genis-Vell, Green Lantern (Hal, Kyle, Alan), Infinity-Man, Majestic, Moonstone (w/ both stones), Qztr, The Sentry, The Silver Surfer, Sinestro, Spartan 3.0, Stardust, Superman (including B/R and AS), Thor, The Void
Middle
Alexander Nero, Beta Ray Bill, Binary, Black Adam, Black Bolt, Cable (Full Power), Captain Atom, Cpt. Comet, Captain Marvel (DC), Count Nefaria, Damien Hellstrom, Doomsday, Evinlea, The Fallen One, Firelord, Firestorm, The Flash III (Wally West), The Flash IV (Bart Allen), General Zod, Gladiator, Green Lantern (Guy, John, Katma, Kilowog), Hyperion, Ikaris, Imperiex Probes, Kid Omega, Lobo, Loki, Magus (Post-IG), Martian Manhunter, Maxima, Mon-El, Morg, Nate Grey, Orion, Quasar, Rachel Summers (Phoenix II), Red Shift, Sersi, Skreet, Supergirl, Supreme, Swamp Thing, Terrax the Tamer, Void, Waverider, Wildfire, Wonder Woman
Low
Absorbing Man, Air Walker, Animal Man, Apocalypse, Apollo, Argent, The Atom, Aztek, Bizarro Superman, Breach, Cassandra Nova, Cir-El, Damage, Darkness, Darwin, Death's Head 3.0, Death Metal, Dr. Doom, Dr. Invincible, Dr. Light, Dr. Polaris, Drax The Destroyer, Engineer, Etrigan, Exodus, Fin Fang Foom, The Flash II (Barry Allen), Gammid, Gamora (w/Godslayer), Gilgamesh, Gorilla Grodd, Graviton, Green Lantern (Soranik Natu), Guardian I (James Hudson), He-Man, Hector Hammond, Hulk, Iceman, Isis, Jade, Jack Hawksmoor (in city), Jack of Hearts, Jericho, Juggernaut (Classic), Kalibak, Karate Kid, Lightray, Living Monolith, Lunatik, Madison Jeffries (BOX IV), Magneto, Major Force, Makkari, Man-Beast, Manchester Black, Mar-Vell, Matrix Supergirl, Meggan, Mongul, Monica Rambeau (Pulsar), Mr. M, Nova (Frankie Raye), Nova Richard Rider (current), Plastic Man, Prime, Professor X, Raven, The Ray, Red Tornado, Ronan the Accuser, Saturn Girl, Selene (External), Shadow King, Shaman, Starhawk, Super Skrull, Superboy, Tempest, Ultra Boy, Ultra-Humanite, Ultron, Union, Vulcan, Wendigo, Winter, Zauriel
Metahuman (Mid-tier "Iron Man" level)
High
Abomination, Adam Strange, Aquaman, Ares (Marvel), Atlas, Aurora, Batman 1 Million, Battalion (Jackson King), Blastaar, Blob, BOX I (Roger Bochs), Captain Britain, Captain Marvel Jr, Colossus, Death's Head II, Donna Troy, Emma Frost, Ghost Rider II, Grim Reaper, Guardian II (Heather Hudson), Havok, Hellstrike, Hercules (Mortal), Holocaust, The Human Torch, Invisible Woman, Iron-Man, Jean Grey (sans Phoenix), Jenny Sparks, Juggernaut (Depowered), Kang, Living Laser, Manbot, Mandarin, Mary Marvel, Maul, Mercer Drake, Metallo, Mimic (Exiles), Miss Martian, Mr. Fantastic, Mr. Sinister, Namor the Sub-Mariner, Nightshade, Nimrod, Northstar, Ocean Master, Osiris, Pitt, Polaris, Power Girl, Psylocke, Radioactive Man, Sand, Sasquatch, Shassa, She-Hulk, Starfire, Storm, Supernova, Temugin, The Thing, Thunderstrike, The Tick, Ulik, Ultimo, Vision, War Machine, Windshear, Wonder Man, Zzaxx
Middle
Aegis, Atom Smasher, Attuma, Balder, Beast Boy, Bishop, Blink, Blue Beetle (Jamie Reyes), Blue Devil, Bombshell, Booster Gold, Carnage, Cloak, Corrin, Crystal, Cyborg, Cyclops, Death's Head, Death Wreck, Dust, Electro, Elijah Snow, Enchantress, Farenheit, Flint, Fuji, Ghost Rider (Johnny Blaze), Ghost Rider(Dan Ketch), Grace Choi, Hawkgirl, Hawkman, Hellion, The Flash I (Jay Garrick), Kymaera/Namorita, Lightning Lad, Matua, M.O.D.O.K., Moonstone, Morlun, Ms. Marvel, Nico Minoru, Ogun, Quicksilver (classic), Ragman, Rogue, rom, Shadowcat, Shift, Steel, Terra, Thunder, Tiger Shark, Toxin, Vance Astro, Vengeance, Wonder Girl
Low
3-D Man, Ambrose Chase, Angel, Arachne, Arana, Azrael, Beast, Black Canary, Black Tarantula, Blade, Blue Beetle (Dan Garrett), Bruenor Battlehammer, Century, Charcoal, Charlie 27, Constrictor, Creeper, Cyber, Dagger, Deathlok, Deathstroke the Terminator, Doc Ock, Drizzt Do'Urden, Elixer, Falcon, Firehawk, Gambit, Green Goblin, Hobgoblin, Iron Fist, Jakita Wagner, Karnak, Kid Devil, Killer Croc, Klaw, Lady Deathstrike, Longshot, Luke Cage, Machine Man, Man-Bat, Mercury, Midnighter, Mister Hyde, Molly Hayes, Multiple Man, Mysterio, Mystique, Nightcrawler, Nova Richard Rider (classic), Nuke, Omega Red, Orka Humbug, Prometheus, Protocide, Puck, Puma, Rage, Sabretooth, Shang Chi, Silver Samurai, Speedball, Speedfreek, Spider-Man, Spider-Man 2099, Spider-Woman, Swift, Thunder Cats, Tombstone, Triathalon, Vance Astro, Vanguard, Venom, Vermin, Victor Mancha, Vulture, Warlock (Technarchy/Phalanx), Warpath, Wildchild, Wizard, Wolverine, Wulfgar
Street Level
High
Bane, Batgirl, Batman, Black Cat, Black Panther, Blacklash, Bronze Tiger, Bullseye, Captain America, The Cat, Constantine Drakon, Daredevil, Elektra, Green Arrow, Hawkeye, Hush, Kingpin, Lady Shiva, Ravager, Red Skull, Richard Dragon, Taskmaster, Union Jack, X-23, Nightwing, Red Hood
Middle
Arsenal/Red Arrow, Baron Zemo, Blue Beetle (Ted Kord), Crossbones, Deadshot, Echo, Grifter, Joker, Mach IV, Misty Knight, Moon Knight, Nick Fury, Nomad, Peacemaker, Punisher, Ra's Al Ghul, Rose Tattoo, Turok, Wildcat, Robin
Low
Alfred, Batroc, Black Widow, Catwoman, Christine Trelane, Colleen Wing, Night Thrasher, Obregon Kaine, Penguin, The Question, Riddler, Talia, White Tiger
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlI'm asking what he's done...
Mogo has the second largest powers source next to the oan battery. He's more powerful than the gaurdians themselves. And each one of them equal the power of 100 gl's. maybe more now. dont' know the numbers any more.
Plus, if he's more powerful than the Guardians, then why is he on this list?
Originally posted by Validus
He's not.
He's not more poweful than all of the gaurdian's combined. But he sure as hell seems to be more powerful than any individual members, barring ganthet and that chick. as they seem to have mastered emotions.If mogo falls, the corps fall correct? not true if one gaurdian falls tho.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
He's not more poweful than all of the gaurdian's combined. But he sure as hell seems to be more powerful than any individual members, barring ganthet and that chick. as they seem to have mastered emotions.If mogo falls, the corps fall correct? not true if one gaurdian falls tho.
Kind of a weak retcon actually. Not like Mogo has always been there.
Originally posted by ValidusI was actually going by the fact that he has the 2nd largest power source of Oan energy after the battery itself. That is saying alot. Hell I thought Ion would have the 2nd largest reserve. Or ganthet. It's a bit confusing.
The Corps would only fall because the power rings wouldn't be able to seek out new wearers.Kind of a weak retcon actually. Not like Mogo has always been there.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlSo, if you think so highly of him, why are you trying to get him down to Trans?
I was actually going by the fact that he has the 2nd largest power source of Oan energy after the battery itself. That is saying alot. Hell I thought Ion would have the 2nd largest reserve. Or ganthet. It's a bit confusing.
Originally posted by Harry Fingerman
So, if you think so highly of him, why are you trying to get him down to Trans?
He could be much higher now that he can kill. It was stated that no one in the corps DARE approach Mogo now that he can kill. I was thinking about the fact that he was fighting that city and being invaded and getting his ass kicked. But that was before he was able to kill.
Originally posted by SnazzySmurph
BB's used his electron manipulation to turn boulders into antimatter bombs, and play around with miniature black holes. Possibly even close them, I haven't read the fight for a little while. 😐
Thanks for the info. I was genuinely asking for feats.
But even then Boulders dont equal Hulk's physiology(many powers dont work on him for some reason,hell hes even survived anti-matter) and Black Holes arent treated with to much respect in Marvel generally.