SnazzySmurph
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If I had it my way, high meta would be a lot more strict, and mid meta would be a lot more full.
I still have no idea why Venom's in low meta... in his early days, before a power up or two, he was chucking vans across the space of an island (iirc) with only one hand. He's extremely durable, and the symbiote's tendrils allow for some versatality, along with cloaking and what not.
Mr. Fantastic should certainly not be in high meta...
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
That's the only time he has taken on two full teams of X-Men(X-Factor and Storms team) that I can recall and he pwned them all. He punked Nate Grey and X-Force in X-Mans own comic...and just recently pwned Iceman and Cannonball. And if you read the Messiah Complex Solicits Sinister rapes the UXM team again. Plus it looks like he's going to have something to do with Evil Xavier.(See my Avatar). Then he's also taken out a team of X-Men with one blast in X-Men Creators Choice:
So overall his record with the X-Men is better then Apocalypse because he engineers his own demise eg Cyclops and his Optic Blasts apparently killing him. And most importantly his most recent appearance is far more impressive then Apocalypses most recent appearance. It doesn't mean that Apocalypse is weaker, it just means that Writers tend to handle Sinister better.
Also when you think about it. Sinisters Marauders are far more successful when it comes to actually killing people then Apocalypses Horsemen. Sinister is what Apocalypse should be.
Oh and Sinisters Marauders got rid of Vargas(One of Claremonts abominations)...that puts him higher up in my book then Apocalypse. 😛
As for the rest:
I'm actually against moving Johnny down 😬 I think he's Nova blast makes him a good contender for High Meta.
I'm going to opt out from the Thing and Mr. Fantastic vote...if skill and abilities are taken into account it makes everything so iffy.
That's what I've been saying for some time now. Co-signed.
