The reason we waited for Hulk and Sentry was because their fight was days away at the time. Countdown has 5 months to go and Final Crisis several months after that if you really wanted to get down to it. We might as well put a restriction on all DC characters if thats the case.
Moving DS down to the lowly Trans tier (sarcasm) and then moving him back up 5 months from now is no big deal.
Black Goliath has gone toe to toe with Hulk.
Low herald!! 😖hifty:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f98/t470112.html
😂
But honestly on the list where would he go?
Originally posted by ValWell to be honest, He only recently aquired his Omega powers, but the book is Behind the timeline. we know that he has powered up kalibak over the top tier, as well as granny goodness. And he's beaten eclipso. It's safe to say he's not trans. S/B is stuck someone where in the absurb becuz superman didn't do more dmg than batman did. either batman needs to be moved up to high end herald, or superman down to high end street lvl.
The reason we waited for Hulk and Sentry was because their fight was days away at the time. Countdown has 5 months to go and Final Crisis several months after that if you really wanted to get down to it. We might as well put a restriction on all DC characters if thats the case.Moving DS down to the lowly Trans tier (sarcasm) and then moving him back up 5 months from now is no big deal.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Well to be honest, He only recently aquired his Omega powers, but the book is Behind the timeline. we know that he has powered up kalibak over the top tier, as well as granny goodness. And he's beaten eclipso. It's safe to say he's not trans. S/B is stuck someone where in the absurb becuz superman didn't do more dmg than batman did. either batman needs to be moved up to high end herald, or superman down to high end street lvl.
For beating up Darkseid and making him flee?
Originally posted by Val
None of the feats you named for DS put him beyond Trans. They don't even make him the strongest person in Trans for that matter.
Name one person in trans lvl who can create a being like Takion or Eclipso out of thier own power? Or who has created alter realities or hell even an earth with 6 billion souls in a black hole. Who can own all the new gods with matter manip and telepathy. Now those do put him beyond trans.
Darkseid didn't create Eclispo. He created the Heart of Darkness. To be exact, his slaves created the Heart of Darkness. Huge difference.
Kyle's Circle of Darkness creations are par for course.
Jenny Quantum and Doctor can do the reality altering. Ion created a pocket universe. Jenny is more powerful than DS for that matter.
The rest of that stuff isn't impressive.
Originally posted by Val
Darkseid didn't create Eclispo. He created the Heart of Darkness. To be exact, his slaves created the Heart of Darkness. Huge difference.Kyle's Circle of Darkness creations are par for course.
Jenny Quantum and Doctor can do the reality altering. Ion created a pocket universe. Jenny is more powerful than DS for that matter.
The rest of that stuff isn't impressive.
So who else in the trans list can create a being who is as powerful as Takion? Who can collapse a fifth of a reality, create life, 6 billions souls, pwn and matter manipulate all of the new gods including highfather and the black racer, and beat eclipso with just hand to hand? um not impressive? What ever.
Let me rephrase.
Good feats but not feats that make me think he's beyond Trans. 🙂
If you think that stuff is good enough to be Skyfather level then you're seriously underestimating what some of the guys in High Herald can do much less the people in Trans. I could easily sit here and make Superman, Thor, Hal Jordan, Kyle Rayner, Zemo and Spartan look like Skyfathers. Especially if beating Jean Loring Eclipso in hand to hand is where we're setting the bar.
Originally posted by Val
Let me rephrase.Good feats but not feats that make me think he's beyond Trans. 🙂
If you think that stuff is good enough to be Skyfather level then you're seriously underestimating what some of the guys in High Herald can do much less the people in Trans. I could easily sit here and make Superman, Thor, Hal Jordan, Kyle Rayner, Zemo and Spartan look like Skyfathers. Especially if beating Jean Loring Eclipso in hand to hand is where we're setting the bar.
Nah, but beating all of the new gods, matter manipulating them, erasing thier memories, creating 6 billion souls, maintaining it in a black hole, creating alter realities daily, are beyond any of the high heralds and the trans, Hell stayne is trans herself and very damned near the top, how can she be in the same league as the being who created her?
Originally posted by Val
The reason we waited for Hulk and Sentry was because their fight was days away at the time. Countdown has 5 months to go and Final Crisis several months after that if you really wanted to get down to it. We might as well put a restriction on all DC characters if thats the case.Moving DS down to the lowly Trans tier (sarcasm) and then moving him back up 5 months from now is no big deal.
i agree... yeah, im all for the move for DS... only for now though...
Originally posted by llagrok
I'm against Female light to low herald.
why? just out of curiosity...
Ravenous to low. For: 5 (llag, TP, Digi, Val, Qual) Against: 5 (bran, Smurph, Soljer, Rash, boo)
Darkseid to Trans. For: 13 (Bran, Soljer, Quan, Val, Priest, Strength, Goober, Skeets, Qual, lordboo, fatnude, Chaos, Pr1983) Against: 8 (ass, T-pain, nvr, Spauld, Crest, llag, Newjack, Mike)
Kurse to high herald. For: 3 (Mighty, ill, lord) Against: 1 (Qual)
Sentry to Mid herald. For: 8 (Trick, Soljer, Red, Qual, ill, lordboo, dube, Pr1983) Against: 10 (Bran, Val, Nvr, Strength, Mano, Battle, Priest, V, Skeets, Smurf)
Starman to Low herald. For: 2 (Skeets, Val) Against: 0
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Wonder Woman to low herald. For: 8 (Skeets, Bran, Val, Strength, Soljer, Priest, Stacks, llag) Against: 4 (Spauld, Nvr, Trick, Pr1983)
Martian Manhunter to low Herald. For: 6 (Skeets, Bran, Spauld, Soljer, Val, Ass) Against: 3 (Strength, Trick, llag)
Dr. light (Kimiyo) to Low Herald. For: 1 (Pr1983) Against: 1 (llagrok)