KMC Comic Book Tiers

Started by Bransolute485 pages

Finally I think Darkseid can be moved if we keep this up... I mean, it's a 6 vote difference...

Also, rearranging it.

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Ravenous to low. For: 5 (llag, TP, Digi, Val, Qual) Against: 5 (bran, Smurph, Soljer, Rash, boo)
Darkseid to Trans. For: 14 (Bran, Soljer, Quan, Val, Priest, Strength, Goober, Skeets, Qual, lordboo, fatnude, Chaos, Pr1983, Jason) Against: 8 (ass, T-pain, nvr, Spauld, Crest, llag, Newjack, Mike)
Kurse to high herald. For: 3 (Mighty, ill, lord) Against: 1 (Qual)
Sentry to Mid herald. For: 8 (Trick, Soljer, Red, Qual, ill, lordboo, dube, Pr1983) Against: 10 (Bran, Val, Nvr, Strength, Mano, Battle, Priest, V, Skeets, Smurf)
Starman to Low herald. For: 2 (Skeets, Val) Against: 0
Dr. light (Kimiyo) to Low Herald. For: 2 (Pr1983, Bran) Against: 1 (llagrok)

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Wonder Woman to low herald. For: 8 (Skeets, Bran, Val, Strength, Soljer, Priest, Stacks, llag) Against: 4 (Spauld, Nvr, Trick, Pr1983)
Martian Manhunter to low Herald. For: 6 (Skeets, Bran, Spauld, Soljer, Val, Ass) Against: 3 (Strength, Trick, llag)

S/B makes dur go durcry2. Darkseid to trans......

At least until someone with some intelligence writes him. 🙁

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
S/B makes dur go durcry2. Darkseid to trans......

At least until someone with some intelligence writes him. 🙁

The vote was made before both comics came out...

He should have went there a long time ago.

S/B better be proven not canon. Cause it has greatly tarnished Darkseid's rep. I still refuse to give Thanos the majority over DS. durkseid

Giving Darkseid trans at this point is fairly analogous to throwing him a bone for his past works.

Currently, he doesn't appear to be anywhere near that level. He has a few old, mostly obscure feats, and his last dozen or so showings have been fairly high heraldish. 🙂.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
S/B better be proven not canon. Cause it has greatly tarnished Darkseid's rep. I still refuse to give Thanos the majority over DS. durkseid
It's had 42 issues... 😐

You think because a couple fanboys don't want it canon, that's going to be non-canon?

Well, that's your opinion.

Originally posted by B.A
Black Goliath has gone toe to toe with Hulk.

Low herald!! 😖hifty:

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f98/t470112.html

😂

But honestly on the list where would he go?

Originally posted by B.A
Squirrel Girl and Deadpool should be low meta.

Why isn't DP on the list anyway?

Originally posted by B.A
Why is Shang Chi low meta?

Squirrel Girl is not list-able and should remain that way 😬

Why, list her abilities. Its obvious shes low meta. 😄

Originally posted by Bransolute
Finally I think Darkseid can be moved if we keep this up... I mean, it's a 6 vote difference...

Also, rearranging it.

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Ravenous to low. For: 5 (llag, TP, Digi, Val, Qual) Against: 5 (bran, Smurph, Soljer, Rash, boo)
Darkseid to Trans. For: 14 (Bran, Soljer, Quan, Val, Priest, Strength, Goober, Skeets, Qual, lordboo, fatnude, Chaos, Pr1983, Jason) Against: 7 (ass, T-pain, nvr, Spauld, llag, Newjack, Mike)
Kurse to high herald. For: 3 (Mighty, ill, lord) Against: 1 (Qual)
Sentry to Mid herald. For: 8 (Trick, Soljer, Red, Qual, ill, lordboo, dube, Pr1983) Against: 10 (Bran, Val, Nvr, Strength, Mano, Battle, Priest, V, Skeets, Smurf)
Starman to Low herald. For: 2 (Skeets, Val) Against: 0
Dr. light (Kimiyo) to Low Herald. For: 2 (Pr1983, Bran) Against: 1 (llagrok)

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Wonder Woman to low herald. For: 8 (Skeets, Bran, Val, Strength, Soljer, Priest, Stacks, llag) Against: 4 (Spauld, Nvr, Trick, Pr1983)
Martian Manhunter to low Herald. For: 6 (Skeets, Bran, Spauld, Soljer, Val, Ass) Against: 3 (Strength, Trick, llag)

Originally posted by B.A
Why, list her abilities. Its obvious shes low meta. 😄

- Ability to communicate with Squirrels
- Superhuman Agility
- Squirrel Claws
- Squirrel Tail
- Ability to take down and one-shot characters with enormous power sets.

Anyway I think this was addressed a while back, we have characters with 1 Dimensional power sets higher up then characters with more versatility.
Squirrel Girls ludicrous yet consistent feats speak for themselves so in that sense she should remain off the list.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
- Ability to communicate with Squirrels
- Superhuman Agility
- Squirrel Claws
- Squirrel Tail
- Ability to take down and one-shot characters with enormous power sets.

Anyway I think this was addressed a while back, we have characters with 1 Dimensional power sets higher up then characters with more versatility.
Squirrel Girls ludicrous yet consistent feats speak for themselves so in that sense she should remain off the list.

I haven't saw one shots.

She always uses her squirrels to win. 😄

Originally posted by B.A
I haven't saw one shots.

She always uses her squirrels to win. 😄

I was refering to the time when she booted Deadpool out of the GLI headquarters during the summer special. 😛

I should actually rephrase that.

-Ability to take down and one-shot characters with greater power sets then her own and win off panel.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
S/B better be proven not canon. Cause it has greatly tarnished Darkseid's rep. I still refuse to give Thanos the majority over DS. durkseid

Superman/Batman is where Infinite Crisis was first spoken of. It's where Lex's presidency came to an end. It's where Supergirl was introduced.

Probably safe to say it's canon...

The DS vote is almost 2 to 1 at this point so I think it's safe to move him. Especially since Trick even voted him to Trans. 😂

Superman/Batman really is a crappy, canon book.

I don't understand how DC expects anyone to take Darkseid seriously if Superman is constantly knuckling him up.

No longer can i call Apok Now the outlier.

Darkseid is around high top tier physically, with above the top tier energy capabilities.

Damn, and i really like Darkseid too.

Sometimes the Superman aura is a hard pill to swallow, especially since it often shines at another characters detriment.

Thanos would physically mollywhop Darkseid, and his OE would likely be palmed an reflected.

Victor Mancha is both low and mid meta on the tiering. 😬

Re: KMC Comic Book Tiers

Added Darkseid to Trans
Removed Victor Mancha from Low Meta
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Sub-Skyfather (Transcendent)

Amazo, Appolyon, The Asgardian Destroyer, Black Racer, Blackheart, Blaze, Circe, Count Abyss, Darkseid, Death Urge, Despero, The Doctor, Doomsday (H/P), Dr. Fate, Dr. Manhattan, Dr. Strange (classic), Eclipso, Elders of the Universe (minus Ego), Fernus, Gog, Gray Man, High Evolutionary, Ion (current), Jenny Quantum, The Keeper, King Thor, Magus (original), Mangog, Mongul I (Pre Crisis), Nightmare, Onimar Synn, Onslaught, Queen of Fables, Resurrection Man 1 Million, Sentinel (Alan Scott), Silver Age Kryptonians/Daxamites, Solomon Grundy (Peak), Solusandra, Stayne, Strange Visitor, Sun Eater, Superboy Prime, Superman 1 Million, Takion, Talisman, Thanos, Tyrant (powered down), Validus

Herald

High
Adam Warlock, Baron Zemo (w/ Moonstones), Cyborg Superman, Doomsday (Gog Wars), The Eradicator (Fortress Mode), Genis-Vell, Green Lantern (Hal, Kyle, Alan), Infinity-Man, Majestic, Moonstone (w/ both stones), Qztr, The Sentry, The Silver Surfer, Sinestro, Spartan 3.0, Stardust, Superman (including B/R and AS), Thor, The Void

Middle
Alexander Nero, Beta Ray Bill, Binary, Black Adam, Black Bolt, Cable (Full Power), Captain Atom, Cpt. Comet, Captain Marvel (DC), Count Nefaria, Damien Hellstrom, Evinlea, The Fallen One, Firelord, Firestorm, The Flash III (Wally West), The Flash IV (Bart Allen), The General (Shaggy Man), General Zod, Gladiator, Green Lantern (Guy, John, Katma, Kilowog), Hyperion, Ikaris, Imperiex Probes, Kid Omega, Lobo, Loki, Magus (Post-IG), Martian Manhunter, Maxima, Metamorpho, Mon-El, Morg, Nate Grey, Orion, Quasar, Rachel Summers (Phoenix II), Red Shift, Sersi, Shaman, Skreet, Supergirl, Supreme, Swamp Thing, Terrax the Tamer, Void, Waverider, Wildfire, Witchfire (Demon Form), Wonder Woman

Low
Absorbing Man, Air Walker, Animal Man, Apocalypse, Apollo, Argent, The Atom, Aztek, Bizarro Superman, Breach, Cassandra Nova, Cir-El, Damage, Darkness, Darwin, Death's Head 3.0, Death Metal, Doomsday (DOS), Dr. Doom, Dr. Invincible, Dr. Light, Dr. Polaris, Drax The Destroyer, Enchantress, Engineer, Etrigan, Exodus, Fin Fang Foom, The Flash II (Barry Allen), Gammid, Gamora (w/Godslayer), Gilgamesh, Gold Key Solar, Gorilla Grodd, Graviton, Green Lantern (Soranik Natu), Guardian I (James Hudson), He-Man, Hector Hammond, Hulk, Iceman, Isis, Jade, Jack Hawksmoor (in city), Jack of Hearts, Jericho, Juggernaut (Classic), Kalibak, Karate Kid, Lightray, Living Monolith, Lunatik, Madison Jeffries (BOX IV), Magneto, Major Force, Makkari, Man-Beast, Manchester Black, Marrina (Leviathan), Mar-Vell, Matrix Supergirl, Meggan, Mongul, Monica Rambeau (Pulsar), Mr. M, Nova (Frankie Raye), Nova Richard Rider (current), Plastic Man, Prime, Professor X, Raven, The Ray, Red Tornado, Ronan the Accuser, Saturn Girl, Selene (External), Shadow King, Snowbird, Starhawk, Super Skrull, Superboy, Tempest, Ultra Boy, Ultra-Humanite, Ultron, Union, Vulcan, Wendigo, Winter, Witchfire (Normal), Zauriel

Metahuman (Mid-tier "Iron Man" level)

High
Abomination, Adam Strange, Aquaman, Ares (Marvel), Atlas, Aurora, Batman 1 Million, Battalion (Jackson King), Blastaar, Blob, BOX I (Roger Bochs), Captain Britain, Captain Marvel Jr, Colossus, Crystal, Death's Head II, Donna Troy, Emma Frost, Ghost Rider II, Grim Reaper, Guardian II (Heather Hudson), Havok, Hellstrike, Hercules (Mortal), Holocaust, The Human Torch, Invisible Woman, Iron-Man, Jean Grey (sans Phoenix), Jenny Sparks, Juggernaut (Depowered), Kang, Living Laser, Machine Man, Manbot, Mandarin, Mary Marvel, Maul, Mercer Drake, Metallo, Mimic (Exiles), Miss Martian, Mr. Fantastic, Mr. Sinister, Namor the Sub-Mariner, Nico Minoru, Nightshade, Nimrod, Northstar, Ocean Master, Osiris, Pitt, Polaris, Power Girl, Psylocke, Radioactive Man, Sand, Sasquatch, Shassa, She-Hulk, Starfire, Storm, Supernova, Temugin, The Thing, Thunderstrike, The Tick, Ulik, Ultimo, Vision, War Machine, Windshear, Wonder Man, Zzaxx

Middle
Aegis, Atom Smasher, Attuma, Balder, Beast Boy, Bishop, Blink, Blue Beetle (Jamie Reyes), Blue Devil, Bombshell, Booster Gold, Carnage, Cloak, Corrin, Cyborg, Cyclops, Death's Head, Death Wreck, Dust, Electro, Elijah Snow, Farenheit, Flint, Fuji, Ghost Rider (Johnny Blaze), Ghost Rider(Dan Ketch), Grace Choi, Hawkgirl, Hawkman, Hellion, The Flash I (Jay Garrick), Karolina Dean, Kymaera/Namorita, Lightning Lad, Matua, M.O.D.O.K., Molly Hayes, Moonstone, Morlun, Ms. Marvel, Nico Minoru, Nova Richard Rider (classic), Ogun, Quicksilver (classic), Ragman, Rogue, Rom, Shadowcat, Shift, Steel, Terra, Thunder, Tiger Shark, Toxin, Vance Astro, Vengeance, Venom, Victor Mancha, Wonder Girl

Low
3-D Man, Ambrose Chase, Angel, Arachne, Arana, Azrael, Beast, Black Canary, Black Tarantula, Blade, Blue Beetle (Dan Garrett), Bruenor Battlehammer, Century, Charcoal, Charlie 27, Constrictor, Creeper, Cyber, Dagger, Deathlok, Deathstroke the Terminator, Doc Ock, Drizzt Do'Urden, Elixer, Falcon, Firehawk, Gambit, Green Goblin, Hobgoblin, Iron Fist, Jakita Wagner, Karnak, Kid Devil, Killer Croc, Klaw, Lady Deathstrike, Longshot, Luke Cage, Man-Bat, Marrina (Normal), Mercury, Midnighter, Mister Hyde, Multiple Man, Mysterio, Mystique, Nightcrawler, Nuke, Omega Red, Orka Humbug, Prometheus, Protocide, Puck, Puma, Rage, Sabretooth, Shang Chi, Silver Samurai, Speedball, Speedfreek, Spider-Man, Spider-Man 2099, Spider-Woman, Swift, Thunder Cats, Tombstone, Triathalon, Vance Astro, Vanguard, Vermin, Vulture, Warlock (Technarchy/Phalanx), Warpath, Wildchild, Wizard, Wolverine, Wulfgar

Street Level

High
Bane, Batgirl, Batman, Black Cat, Black Panther, Blacklash, Bronze Tiger, Bullseye, Captain America, The Cat, Constantine Drakon, Daredevil, Elektra, Green Arrow, Hawkeye, Hush, Kingpin, Lady Shiva, Ravager, Red Skull, Richard Dragon, Taskmaster, Union Jack, X-23, Nightwing, Red Hood

Middle
Arsenal/Red Arrow, Baron Zemo, Blue Beetle (Ted Kord), Crossbones, Deadshot, Echo, Grifter, Joker, Mach IV, Misty Knight, Moon Knight, Nick Fury, Nomad, Peacemaker, Punisher, Ra's Al Ghul, Rose Tattoo, Turok, Wildcat, Robin

Low
Alfred, Batroc, Black Widow, Catwoman, Christine Trelane, Colleen Wing, Night Thrasher, Obregon Kaine, Penguin, The Question, Riddler, Talia, White Tiger
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Ravenous to low. For: 5 (llag, TP, Digi, Val, Qual) Against: 5 (bran, Smurph, Soljer, Rash, boo)
Kurse to high herald. For: 3 (Mighty, ill, lord) Against: 1 (Qual)
Sentry to Mid herald. For: 8 (Trick, Soljer, Red, Qual, ill, lordboo, dube, Pr1983) Against: 10 (Bran, Val, Nvr, Strength, Mano, Battle, Priest, V, Skeets, Smurf)
Starman to Low herald. For: 2 (Skeets, Val) Against: 0
Dr. light (Kimiyo) to Low Herald. For: 2 (Pr1983, Bran) Against: 1 (llagrok)

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Wonder Woman to low herald. For: 8 (Skeets, Bran, Val, Strength, Soljer, Priest, Stacks, llag) Against: 4 (Spauld, Nvr, Trick, Pr1983)
Martian Manhunter to low Herald. For: 6 (Skeets, Bran, Spauld, Soljer, Val, Ass) Against: 3 (Strength, Trick, llag)

Also,

Flash I (Jay Garrick) to Low Herald. For: 1 (Val) Against: 0

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
S/B better be proven not canon. Cause it has greatly tarnished Darkseid's rep. I still refuse to give Thanos the majority over DS. durkseid

You can look at this way, It really tarnishes Superman's rep, cuz He didnt' do any more damage than batman did. Or the blast from the staff actually harmed DS far too much. It doesn't make sense that Superman or batman would be able to do anything to DS and then Black Mary throws all of her lightning at DS and it does nothing. Since countdown is the obvious later showing, as S?B is in the past, we can pretty count it as not current.

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