KMC Comic Book Tiers

Originally posted by pr1983
hmm... i won't vote either way so... ill have to go back and read more of 52...

i've read bits and pieces, still trying to catch up with alot of it...

i didn't mean resurrect in the biological sense... the manhunters, to me though, did look like they were doing something to him... my thinking was that he was, as a cyborg, partly mechanical in nature... if his more important brain functions were in the cyborg brain, then maybe repairing the damaged sections could have brought him back, so to speak...

though i could be taking the cyborg term too literally... damn star trek...

i just went back and read the johns interview, i may have missed it but i didnt see him indicate whether borg had actually died or not...

He's been completely bodiless a few times and has recreated a whole body in the process of a panel or two. What they did was in effect wake him up. After all, they can't reactivate or resurrect what's actually dead and done. They're just droids.

Also the guardians knew that he wasn't dead. They mentioned that he was ashed, but that he and antimonitor could return at anytime near the end of the comic.

The only one they weren't too sure about was Prime.

Originally posted by Avlon
He's been completely bodiless a few times and has recreated a whole body in the process of a panel or two. What they did was in effect wake him up. After all, they can't reactivate or resurrect what's actually dead and done. They're just droids.

Also the guardians knew that he wasn't dead. They mentioned that he was ashed, but that he and antimonitor could return at anytime near the end of the comic.

The only one they weren't too sure about was Prime.

i know about the bodiless part, but hasn't he always needed some sort of housing?

i'll go back and read again...

Originally posted by pr1983
i know about the bodiless part, but hasn't he always needed some sort of housing?

i'll go back and read again...

To actually do something besides being a consciousness floating around.

Originally posted by pr1983
i know about the bodiless part, but hasn't he always needed some sort of housing?

i'll go back and read again...

He's been just fine in a toy model made out of clay. Probably about the same mass as his head at most. No tech of signs of life in that either. Superman blue couldn't detect him and he was next to him in that same toy model.

When Parallax stuck him in the source wall...Henshaw did not have a body at all.

Originally posted by llagrok
The idea that Black Adam would take a majority from Guy, John, Kryl or Count Nefaria is laughable.

So did you laugh when you read the comic? ermm

And Black Adam's feats > Count Nefaria

It's also worth noting that as Captain Marvel shares his powers with the rest of the Marvel Family, Adam's unshared powers are often depicted as rendering him somewhat stronger than Marvel.

Originally posted by Larceny
So did you laugh when you read the comic? ermm

And Black Adam's feats > Count Nefaria

Count stopped Thor's hammer with EASE.

So Adams feats >>>>> Thor.

Originally posted by llagrok
People are probably referring to when Black Adam received a "powerup" from Osiris' death. Which he didn't, he simply got the powers back.

Isis' power came from an amulet belonging to another of Shazam's champions.

And BA even goes on to say Isis is more powerful than he is.

We know Adam is powered by 6 Gods, originally.

Shu
Heru
Amon
Zehuti
Aton
Mehen

After Isis dies, Sivana says Adam is now powered by 7 Gods.

Originally posted by Nod
Count stopped Thor's hammer with EASE.

So Adams feats >>>>> Thor.

So? Superman's stopped Thor's hammer, Magneto's stopped Thor's hammer, hell Loki, Fenris, and Ulik broke Thor's hammer. Thor like any other has his lows and his highs, however when you break it down you can't deny that the man is a beast.

No, Thor's feats > Adam's. Mainly because his power is channeled through a mystical hammer, and he's had a lot more screen time. However they operate on very similar levels. In a pure h2h fight Adam would have the advantage though.

Originally posted by Val
Shenanigans?

Isis' power came from an amulet belonging to another of Shazam's champions.

And BA even goes on to say Isis is more powerful than he is.

We know Adam is powered by 6 Gods, originally.

Shu
Heru
Amon
Zehuti
Aton
Mehen

After Isis dies, Sivana says Adam is now powered by 7 Gods.

How would Sivana know if Adam gained the power or not? It wasn't featured, he didn't gain any extra power, Adam never mentioned it. Using Sivana's word as proof is shady at best.

Originally posted by Larceny
How would Sivana know if Adam gained the power or not? It wasn't featured, he didn't gain any extra power, Adam never mentioned it. Using Sivana's word as proof is shady at best.

And I'm going more by Mary Marvel saying she has the power of Black Adam and Isis, which was given to her by Black Adam. There's more to support a power up than not.

Originally posted by Val
Why would they just throw that in there for no reason at all?

And I'm going more by Mary Marvel saying she has the power of Black Adam and Isis, which was given to her by Black Adam. There's more to support a power up than not.

I'm convinced.

Isis must've been horrible at using her powers then, the persuader had her beat -.-

Originally posted by Val
Why would they just throw that in there for no reason at all?

And I'm going more by Mary Marvel saying she has the power of Black Adam and Isis, which was given to her by Black Adam. There's more to support a power up than not.

I don't know, there just isn't evidence of a power up. Each god has it's purpose in his list of powers. Shu for endurance, Heru for swiftness, Amon for strength, Zehuti for wisdom, Atom for power, and Mehen for courage. What did Isis have to offer, what power would he gain other than power over the elements. I think at the very least they'd explain the power up if he received one.

That pisses me off. They better give Adam his power back, and quick. IMO, Adam is one of the best characters DC has to offer in terms depth. He's just fun to read, without him the Marvel family isn't the Marvel family.

Also, would it matter if he had a power up? Those were the levels h was last seen at. Those are the levels he's operate at in forum battles.

Originally posted by Larceny
I don't know, there just isn't evidence of a power up. Each god has it's purpose in his list of powers. Shu for endurance, Heru for swiftness, Amon for strength, Zehuti for wisdom, Atom for power, and Mehen for courage. What did Isis have to offer, what power would he gain other than power over the elements. I think at the very least they'd explain the power up if he received one.

That pisses me off. They better give Adam his power back, and quick. IMO, Adam is one of the best characters DC has to offer in terms depth. He's just fun to read, without him the Marvel family isn't the Marvel family

Also, would it matter if he had a power up? Those were the levels h was last seen at. Those are the levels he's operate at in forum battles.

😖hifty:

Originally posted by Larceny

Also, would it matter if he had a power up? Those were the levels h was last seen at.
Those are the levels he's operate at in forum battles.

Only when specified.

Isis could do more than control weather judging by what Mary is doing with her power.

Adam is a total brute. If his choice is punching your face off or transmuting you to a pig, he's going to go with Option A every time.

Originally posted by Nod
Only when specified.

Rules/Standard Fight Settings
In most cases, the poster who originally set up the versus fight determines the conditions of the fight itself (ex. If a character like Superman is in a thread, it'll be assumed that it's the current version unless mentioned otherwise by the thread starter, the same goes with Thanos without the IG, and so on). However, in the cases where the original poster did not set down any constraints or conditions for the fight, then the match would default to the standard rules below.

It would be Adam with the power up unless otherwise mentioned.

Originally posted by Val
Isis could do more than control weather judging by what Mary is doing with her power.

Adam is a total brute. If his choice is punching your face off or transmuting you to a pig, he's going to go with Option A every time.

Ok.

I just hope they bring him back.

Originally posted by Larceny
Rules/Standard Fight Settings
In most cases, the poster who originally set up the versus fight determines the conditions of the fight itself (ex. If a character like Superman is in a thread, it'll be assumed that it's the [b]current version unless mentioned otherwise by the thread starter, the same goes with Thanos without the IG, and so on). However, in the cases where the original poster did not set down any constraints or conditions for the fight, then the match would default to the standard rules below.

It would be Adam with the power up unless otherwise mentioned. [/B]

Countdown.

Originally posted by Larceny
Ok.

I just hope they bring him back.