KMC Comic Book Tiers

Originally posted by DigiMark007
[BAlso, just out of curiosity, if we consider making a Skyfather tier...what would be the parameters? Because "Odin" is a nice benchmark, but creating the line at the low end would be rough since we currently just have a "Sub-Skyfather" tier. Would that make Odin the minimum? Then where does one make a max? "Skyfather" is a handy term, but if we make it exactly Skyfather and nothing else, it'll be too small a category to warrant inclusion. But trying to make arbitrary divisions above and benath Skyfather would likely be equally as fruitless. [/B]

I think Odin would be a high Skyfather, he strikes me as someone who's a tad stronger than the rest. I could be off though, but maybe Zeus could be the benchmark? Though he does lack feats.

Originally posted by MightyEInherjar
I'd like to vote Grey Hulk (Mr Fixit) to High Meta.

Why should we add him?

Originally posted by Master-Borg
how do some comic artists who draw like crap get employed?

and I'm not even talking about Liefield...who at least can claim it's his 'style'. I've seen some art that seriously look like some dude just completely halfassed it.

Shut up.

Originally posted by llagrok
I think Odin would be a high Skyfather, he strikes me as someone who's a tad stronger than the rest. I could be off though, but maybe Zeus could be the benchmark? Though he does lack feats.

Well, that's the thing. Zeus-to-Odin isn't a wide range, and it's not clearly defined anyway. The level would need to be Skyfather-ish, but creating an upper/lower limit would be arbitrary...especially since our highest tier right now ends just beneath Odin.

The only possible out I see right now is starting it at Odin then creating a different upper limit. Though admittedly I'm not thrilled with the idea to begin with....we'd attempt to make a list before I considered adding it officially to page 1.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Agree on all 3. Though I'll put Swampie up for trans level.

And no on the skyfather tier. the shitstorm on this one is best avoided and it could potentially ruin this thread.

I personally will drive you all insane to get Darkseid in the same tier as Odin. durlaugh

Clearly we'd make a special rule that you couldn't talk about him.

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But seriously, I would.

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Originally posted by DigiMark007
Alright, since no one has formalized the voting in a while:

Swamp Thing to HH
Annihilus to HH
Black Night (Dane Whitman) to LM

Those are the 3 up for voting. Stick to those until something is vetoed or decided upon. Some have been voted upon already, so if anyone wants to tally recent votes that would be cool.

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Also, just out of curiosity, if we consider making a Skyfather tier...what would be the parameters? Because "Odin" is a nice benchmark, but creating the line at the low end would be rough since we currently just have a "Sub-Skyfather" tier. Would that make Odin the minimum? Then where does one make a max? "Skyfather" is a handy term, but if we make it exactly Skyfather and nothing else, it'll be too small a category to warrant inclusion. But trying to make arbitrary divisions above and benath Skyfather would likely be equally as fruitless.

just bumping this for consideration. Still needs a vote tally, though the first two seem pretty accepted so far.

for annihilus to high herald

also skyfather tearing is a good idea imho

I vote no on creating a Skyfather tier. The herald tier was a big enough headache.

The higher you go up with tiers, the harder it is to be acurate. That's why you have Mr. Master and GS dropping MS Word documents on each other to try and prove a point that nobody even agrees on.

No one's come up with a workable blueprint for the tier that addresses my concerns, so I'm inclined to agree with Val. We didn't arbitrarily decide to stop at Skyfather...anything at that or beyond gets extremely subjective, and debates get catty.

what about this??
id still like to see a tier system regarding skyfather,elder-gods,celestial level beings.
stopping short of absracts/uber cosmics,so it doesnt interfere with other hierarchy's???

Originally posted by LORD B
what about this??
id still like to see a tier system regarding skyfather,elder-gods,celestial level beings.
stopping short of absracts/uber cosmics,so it doesnt interfere with other hierarchy's???

Eh. Master deals with some of those too, and more thoroughly than we would (regardless of his methods, which some don't like).

As before, if I see a clear outline that is do-able, I'll consider it on a trial basis. But right now there's no logical way to make a Skyfather tier that isn't entirely arbitrary in its upper/lower limits.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Well, that's the thing. Zeus-to-Odin isn't a wide range, and it's not clearly defined anyway. The level would need to be Skyfather-ish, but creating an upper/lower limit would be arbitrary...especially since our highest tier right now ends just beneath Odin.

Point taken.

I concur.

Originally posted by Cerpin Taxt
I vote no on creating a Skyfather tier. The herald tier was a big enough headache.

The higher you go up with tiers, the harder it is to be acurate. That's why you have Mr. Master and GS dropping MS Word documents on each other to try and prove a point that nobody even agrees on.

Yeah no skyfather tier

Originally posted by -K-M-
Yeah no skyfather tier

skyfather tier just sounds too difficult to compute.

Swamp Thing to HH For: Newjak Againt:

Annihilus to HH For: Newjak Against:

Black Knight (Dane Whitman) to LM: For Newjak Against:

I know more people have voted on these but they are so scattered I figure they can just vote again if they want to
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Swamp Thing to HH
For: Newjak, Digi
Againt:

Annihilus to HH
For: Newjak, Digi
Against:

Black Knight (Dane Whitman) to LM:
For: Newjak
Against:

...and some have been saying Swampy should be Trans. Hold off on that for now, and just vote on HH. We can bring that up later if there's enough interest.

I'll vote "yes" on the bumping up of Swamp Thing.

Originally posted by skyfather
imo annihilus is high herald,i you look at marvel guys in transcendent he cant hang with the likes of thanos,tyrant,onslaught.

he can definitely hang with the like of surfer and co.

hmm, i'm no longer certain of that at all. consider his creation of ravenous who himself is likely high-herald or very close and his complete owning of quasar who is also high herald. imo there are some on that transcendent list annihilus could take out. and i'd wager he would make thanos work really hard for a win . . .

just saying. 😉

and good idea NOT going with the skyfather tier . . .

Gotta admire leo's shameless "Annihilus to Trans" plugs over in the vs. forum. He may have a point, but he's also trying to cherry-pick from the bottom of Trans.

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Unfortunately he's only up for HH herald right now, so vote accordingly.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Gotta admire leo's shameless "Annihilus to Trans" plugs over in the vs. forum. He may have a point, but he's also trying to cherry-pick from the bottom of Trans.

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Unfortunately he's only up for HH herald right now, so vote accordingly.

Unfortunately, he also tried pitting him against Alan Scott....

Originally posted by Soljer
Unfortunately, he also tried pitting him against Alan Scott....

Yeah, poor Nihil.

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Originally posted by LORD B
for annihilus to high herald