KMC Comic Book Tiers

Transcendent (Sub-Skyfather):
Amazo, The Asgardian Destroyer,Black Racer, Blackheart, Blaze, Circe, Count Abyss, Death Urge, Despero, The Doctor, Dr. Fate, Dr. Strange (classic), Eclipso, Elders of the Universe (minus Ego), Fernus, The General (Shaggy Man), Gog, Gray Man, High Evolutionary, Ion (current), Jenny Quantum, The Keeper, King Thor, Magus (original), Mangog, Mogo(?), Mongul I (Pre Crisis), Nightmare, Onimar Synn, Onslaught, Resurrection Man 1 Million, Sentinel (Alan Scott), Silver Age Kryptonians/Daxamites, Stayne, Sun Eater, Superboy Prime, Superman 1 Million, Takion, Tanaraq, Thanos, Tyrant (powered down), Validus

Herald

High
Adam Warlock, Baron Zemo (w/ Moonstones), Genis-Vell, Green Lantern (Hal, Kyle, Alan), Infinity-Man, Majestic, Moonstone (w/ both stones), The Sentry, The Silver Surfer, Spartan 3.0, Stardust, Superman, Superman Blue/Red, Thor, The Void

Middle
Alexander Nero, Beta Ray Bill, Binary, Black Adam, Black Bolt, Cable (Full Power), Captain Atom, Cpt. Comet, Captain Marvel (DC), Cyborg Superman, Damien Hellstrom, Doomsday, The Eradicator, The Fallen One, Firelord, The Flash III (Wally West), The Flash IV (Bart Allen), General Zod, Gladiator, Green Lantern (Guy, John), Hyperion, Ikaris, Kid Omega, Magus (Post-IG), Martian Manhunter, Maxima, Mon-El, Morg, Nate Grey, Orion, Quasar, Rachel Summers (Phoenix II), Red Shift, Sinestro, Skreet, Supergirl, Supreme, Swamp Thing, Terrax the Tamer, Void, Waverider, Wildfire, Wonder Woman

Low
Absorbing Man, Air Walker, Animal Man, Apocalypse, Apollo, The Atom, Bizarro Superman, Breach, Cassandra Nova, Cir-El, Count Nefaria, Darkness, Darwin,Doom, Death Metal, Dr. Invincible, Dr. Light, Dr. Polaris, Drax The Destroyer, Engineer, Etrigan, Exodus, Fin Fang Foom, Firestorm, The Flash II (Barry Allen), Gamora (w/Godslayer), Gilgamesh, Gorilla Grodd, Graviton, He-Man, Hector Hammond, Hulk, Iceman, Isis, Jade, Jack Hawksmoor (in city), Jack of Hearts, Jericho, Juggernaut (Classic), Kalibak, Lightray, Living Monolith, Lobo, Loki, Lunatik, Magneto, Major Force, Makkari, Man-Beast, Manchester Black, Mar-Vell, Matrix Supergirl, Meggan, Mongul, Monica Rambeau (Pulsar), Mr. M, Nova (Frankie Raye), Nova Richard Rider (current), Prime, Professor X, Raven, The Ray, Red Tornado, Ronan the Accuser, Saturn Girl, Selene (External), Sersi, Shadow King, Shaman, Starhawk, Super Skrull, Superboy, Tempest, Ultra Boy, Union, Vulcan, Winter

Metahuman (Mid-tier "Iron Man" level)

High
Abomination, Aquaman, Ares (Marvel), Atlas, Aurora, Blastaar, Blob, Captain Britain, Captain Marvel Jr, Colossus, Donna Troy, Emma Frost, Ghost Rider II, Grim Reaper, Guardian I, Hercules (Mortal), Holocaust, The Human Torch, Invisible Woman, Iron-Man, Jean Grey (sans Phoenix), Juggernaut (Depowered), Kang, Karate Kid, Living Laser, Mandarin, Mary Marvel, Maul, Metallo, Mimic (Exiles), Miss Martian, Mr. Fantastic, Mr. Sinister, Namor the Sub-Mariner, Nimrod, Northstar, Osiris, Pitt, Plastic-Man, Polaris, Power Girl, Psylocke, Sand, Sasquatch, She-Hulk, Starfire, Storm, Temugin, The Thing, Thunderstrike, The Tick, Ulik, Ultimo, Ultron, Vision, War Machine, Wonder Man, Zzaxx, Nightshade

Middle
Aegis, Atom Smasher, Attuma, Balder, Beast Boy, Bishop, Blink, Blue Devil, Bombshell, Booster Gold, Box, Carnage, Cloak, Crystal, Cyborg, Cyclops, Death's Head II, Dust, Electro, Elijah Snow, Ghost Rider, Grace Choi, Havok, Hawkgirl, Hawkman, Hellion, The Flash I (Jay Garrick), Jenny Sparks, Kymaera/Namorita, Lightning Lad, M.O.D.O.K., Moonstone, Morlun, Ms. Marvel, Nico Minoru, Ogun, Quicksilver (classic), Radioactive Man, Ragman, Rogue, Shadowcat, Shift, Steel, Terra, Thunder, Toxin, Vance Astro, Wonder Girl, Enchantress

Low
3-D Man, Ambrose Chase, Angel, Arachne, Arana, Azrael, Beast, Black Canary, Black Tarantula, Blade, Bruenor Battlehammer, Century, Charcoal, Charlie 27, Constrictor, Creeper, Cyber, Dagger, Deathlok, Deathstroke the Terminator, Doc Ock, Drizzt Do'Urden, Elixer, Falcon, Firehawk, Gambit, Green Goblin, Hobgoblin, Iron Fist, Jakita Wagner, Karnak, Kid Devil, Killer Croc, Klaw, Lady Deathstrike, Longshot, Luke Cage, Machine Man, Man-Bat, Mercury, Midnighter, Mister Hyde, Molly Hayes, Mysterio, Mystique, Nightcrawler, Nova Richard Rider (classic), Nuke, Omega Red, Orka Humbug, Prometheus, Protocide, Puck, Puma, Rage, Rom, Sabretooth, Shang Chi, Silver Samurai, Speedball, Speedfreek, Spider-Man, Spider-Woman, Swift, Thunder Cats, Tombstone, Triathalon, Vance Astro, Vanguard, Venom, Vermin, Victor Mancha, Vulture, Warlock (Technarchy/Phalanx), Warpath, Wizard, Wolverine, Wulfgar

Street Level

High
Bane, Batgirl, Batman, Black Cat, Black Panther, Blacklash, Bronze Tiger, Bullseye, Captain America, The Cat, Constantine, Crossbones, Daredevil, Drakon, Elektra, Green Arrow, Hawkeye, Kingpin, Lady Shiva, Ravager, Red Skull, Richard Dragon, Taskmaster, Union Jack, X-23

Middle
Red Hood ,Arsenal/Red Arrow, Baron Zemo, Deadshot, Echo, Grifter, Joker, Misty Knight, Moon Knight, Nick Fury, Nightwing, Nomad, Punisher, Ra's Al Ghul, Turok, Wildcat

Low
Batroc, Black Widow, Catwoman, Colleen Wing, Night Thrasher, Penguin, The Question, Riddler, Robin, Talia, White Tiger

Moved Glads back up to Mid-Herald 😛

Originally posted by Entity
So this justifies placing her in a lower category when she has equal power and more ability? 😕

Originally posted by Entity
And Kara isn't?

If this list is based more on how the character is written then their actual power, I think we might need to review the entire list again. IMO
But whatever it really doesn't matter to me where you put her. Just pointing out the obvious! 🙄

Originally posted by Validus
Except she's not equal in power which was my entire point. Jo Nah's above her in every category. Go ahead and try to find a top tier Power Girl feat that doesn't have special circumstances. I can guarandamntee you won't.

The obvious is that PeeGee isn't as powerful as Jo. Go roll your eyes elsewhere.

Ultra Boy has ALWAYS been portraid to be as powerful as M"Onel. M'onel is stronger than most if not all Kryptonians. Ultra Boy is more powerful than PG. But I'm wondering if he could handle her given she could use multiple powers at once.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Ultra Boy has ALWAYS been portraid to be as powerful as M"Onel. M'onel is stronger than most if not all Kryptonians. Ultra Boy is more powerful than PG.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
But I'm wondering if he could handle her given she could use multiple powers at once.

Originally posted by Validus
Thank you.

Jo is one of the smartest guys in comics as far as how to use his powerset. I don't think he'd have a problem with her.

He does have a knack for switching powers at the exact right time.

Anyone have a problem with All-Star Superman in High Herald? He might not even be as strong/durable as regular Supes, but he's at least close and possibly higher....and he doesn't have a kryptonite weakness.

Also, Box is Middle Meta...he needs moved up.

And Dagger is on there but not Cloak.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Anyone have a problem with All-Star Superman in High Herald? He might not even be as strong/durable as regular Supes, but he's at least close and possibly higher....and he doesn't have a kryptonite weakness.

Also, Box is Middle Meta...he needs moved up.

And Dagger is on there but not Cloak.

I thought all star was stronger than Regular supes. Where have I been?

Why is Fernus in transcendent...........He did nothing Jonn couldn't......But hey,if your saying someone weaker then Jonn is in transcendent I'm happy.

Originally posted by Martian_mind
Why is Fernus in transcendent...........He did nothing Jonn couldn't......But hey,if your saying someone weaker then Jonn is in transcendent I'm happy.

warning...warning...you are approaching "capt it up" levels of character obsession...warning...warning...

all-star superman is definitely transcendent, judging by his performance against superman one million.

Transcendent (Sub-Skyfather):
Amazo, The Asgardian Destroyer,Black Racer, Blackheart, Blaze, Circe, Count Abyss, Death Urge, Despero, The Doctor, Dr. Fate, Dr. Strange (classic), Eclipso, Elders of the Universe (minus Ego), Fernus, The General (Shaggy Man), Gog, Gray Man, High Evolutionary, Ion (current), Jenny Quantum, The Keeper, King Thor, Magus (original), Mangog, Mogo(?), Mongul I (Pre Crisis), Nightmare, Onimar Synn, Onslaught, Resurrection Man 1 Million, Sentinel (Alan Scott), Silver Age Kryptonians/Daxamites, Stayne, Sun Eater, Superboy Prime, Superman 1 Million, Takion, Tanaraq, Thanos, Tyrant (powered down), Validus

Herald

High
Adam Warlock, Baron Zemo (w/ Moonstones), Genis-Vell, Green Lantern (Hal, Kyle, Alan), Infinity-Man, Majestic, Moonstone (w/ both stones), The Sentry, The Silver Surfer, Spartan 3.0, Stardust, Superman, Superman Blue/Red, Thor, The Void

Middle
Alexander Nero, Beta Ray Bill, Binary, Black Adam, Black Bolt, Cable (Full Power), Captain Atom, Cpt. Comet, Captain Marvel (DC), Cyborg Superman, Damien Hellstrom, Doomsday, The Eradicator, The Fallen One, Firelord, The Flash III (Wally West), The Flash IV (Bart Allen), General Zod, Gladiator, Green Lantern (Guy, John), Hyperion, Ikaris, Kid Omega, Magus (Post-IG), Martian Manhunter, Maxima, Mon-El, Morg, Nate Grey, Orion, Quasar, Rachel Summers (Phoenix II), Red Shift, Sinestro, Skreet, Supergirl, Supreme, Swamp Thing, Terrax the Tamer, Void, Waverider, Wildfire, Wonder Woman

Low
Absorbing Man, Air Walker, Animal Man, Apocalypse, Apollo, Argent, The Atom, Bizarro Superman, Breach, Cassandra Nova, Cir-El, Count Nefaria, Darkness, Darwin,Doom, Death Metal, Dr. Invincible, Dr. Light, Dr. Polaris, Drax The Destroyer, Engineer, Etrigan, Exodus, Fin Fang Foom, Firestorm, The Flash II (Barry Allen), Gamora (w/Godslayer), Gilgamesh, Gorilla Grodd, Graviton, He-Man, Hector Hammond, Hulk, Iceman, Isis, Jade, Jack Hawksmoor (in city), Jack of Hearts, Jericho, Juggernaut (Classic), Kalibak, Lightray, Living Monolith, Lobo, Loki, Lunatik, Magneto, Major Force, Makkari, Man-Beast, Manchester Black, Mar-Vell, Matrix Supergirl, Meggan, Mongul, Monica Rambeau (Pulsar), Mr. M, Nova (Frankie Raye), Nova Richard Rider (current), Prime, Professor X, Raven, The Ray, Red Tornado, Ronan the Accuser, Saturn Girl, Selene (External), Sersi, Shadow King, Shaman, Starhawk, Super Skrull, Superboy, Tempest, Ultra Boy, Union, Vulcan, Winter

Metahuman (Mid-tier "Iron Man" level)

High
Abomination, Aquaman, Ares (Marvel), Atlas, Aurora, Blastaar, Blob, Captain Britain, Captain Marvel Jr, Colossus, Donna Troy, Emma Frost, Ghost Rider II, Grim Reaper, Guardian I, Hercules (Mortal), Holocaust, The Human Torch, Invisible Woman, Iron-Man, Jean Grey (sans Phoenix), Juggernaut (Depowered), Kang, Karate Kid, Living Laser, Mandarin, Mary Marvel, Maul, Metallo, Mimic (Exiles), Miss Martian, Mr. Fantastic, Mr. Sinister, Namor the Sub-Mariner, Nimrod, Northstar, Osiris, Pitt, Plastic-Man, Polaris, Power Girl, Psylocke, Sand, Sasquatch, She-Hulk, Starfire, Storm, Temugin, The Thing, Thunderstrike, The Tick, Ulik, Ultimo, Ultron, Vision, War Machine, Wonder Man, Zzaxx, Nightshade

Middle
Aegis, Atom Smasher, Attuma, Balder, Beast Boy, Bishop, Blink, Blue Devil, Bombshell, Booster Gold, Box, Carnage, Cloak, Crystal, Cyborg, Cyclops, Death's Head II, Dust, Electro, Elijah Snow, Ghost Rider, Grace Choi, Havok, Hawkgirl, Hawkman, Hellion, The Flash I (Jay Garrick), Jenny Sparks, Kymaera/Namorita, Lightning Lad, M.O.D.O.K., Moonstone, Morlun, Ms. Marvel, Nico Minoru, Ogun, Quicksilver (classic), Radioactive Man, Ragman, Rogue, Shadowcat, Shift, Steel, Terra, Thunder, Toxin, Vance Astro, Wonder Girl, Enchantress

Low
3-D Man, Ambrose Chase, Angel, Arachne, Arana, Azrael, Beast, Black Canary, Black Tarantula, Blade, Bruenor Battlehammer, Century, Charcoal, Charlie 27, Constrictor, Creeper, Cyber, Dagger, Deathlok, Deathstroke the Terminator, Doc Ock, Drizzt Do'Urden, Elixer, Falcon, Firehawk, Gambit, Green Goblin, Hobgoblin, Iron Fist, Jakita Wagner, Karnak, Kid Devil, Killer Croc, Klaw, Lady Deathstrike, Longshot, Luke Cage, Machine Man, Man-Bat, Mercury, Midnighter, Mister Hyde, Molly Hayes, Mysterio, Mystique, Nightcrawler, Nova Richard Rider (classic), Nuke, Omega Red, Orka Humbug, Prometheus, Protocide, Puck, Puma, Rage, Rom, Sabretooth, Shang Chi, Silver Samurai, Speedball, Speedfreek, Spider-Man, Spider-Woman, Swift, Thunder Cats, Tombstone, Triathalon, Vance Astro, Vanguard, Venom, Vermin, Victor Mancha, Vulture, Warlock (Technarchy/Phalanx), Warpath, Wizard, Wolverine, Wulfgar

Street Level

High
Bane, Batgirl, Batman, Black Cat, Black Panther, Blacklash, Bronze Tiger, Bullseye, Captain America, The Cat, Constantine Drakon, Crossbones, Daredevil, Elektra, Green Arrow, Hawkeye, Kingpin, Lady Shiva, Ravager, Red Skull, Richard Dragon, Taskmaster, Union Jack, X-23

Middle
Red Hood ,Arsenal/Red Arrow, Baron Zemo, Deadshot, Echo, Grifter, Joker, Misty Knight, Moon Knight, Nick Fury, Nightwing, Nomad, Punisher, Ra's Al Ghul, Turok, Wildcat

Low
Batroc, Black Widow, Catwoman, Colleen Wing, Night Thrasher, Penguin, The Question, Riddler, Robin, Talia, White Tiger

I added Argent to low top tier.

And I don't who keeps screwing with the name "Constantine Drakon," but stop it. 😐

Originally posted by batdude123

And I don't who keeps screwing with the name "Constantine Drakon," but stop it. 😐

😖hifty:

-Nick Fury should move up
-Classic Doop should be added to High/Mid Herald
-Domino should be added to Low Metahuman
-Sasquatch should move up

More to come later.

Well,Smurf saw that he was useless since everything was already done in the MA tier thread,so he's sauntered over here...

(Say Jonn should move up and i'll help you get Domino up a tier in the MA thread....

I didn't take much of a look there. I actually do think that Captain Marvel, Jonn and Nate Grey (assuming it's Shaman) are all ranked a level too low.

J'onn isn't moving up and stop screwing with the list MM.

digi, i believe it's time to update the master list.

I am not familiar with your system, but this is my theory😉

1: God
2: The Brothers
3: TOAA, GEB, Presence, Mr. Mxy, Bat-Mita (Worlds Funniest)
4: Thanos (HOTU), Pre-Retcon Beyonder, Molecule Man
5: Living Tribunal, Spectre, Michael the Arcangel

1: Our God, even through he dont really exists, is supposed to have created everything, which also means Marvel and Dc, which also means The Brothers.
2: The Brothers are the supreme beings and embodiements of Marvel and DC, which means they also contains TOAA and Presence.
3: Supposed to be completely omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent. But Batmite and Mxy is just guessing, even through they once traveled through the fourth wall, making them able to control all of Marvel and DC existence from Marvel and DC companies in some way.
4: All more powerful than Living Tribunal
5: Michael and Spectre was evnly ranked, and Living Tribunal is compared to Spectre in power

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I thought all star was stronger than Regular supes. Where have I been?

Everyone thinks that but there's really no solid evidence. There's the panel of him pressing something like 80 Quintillion tons with 1 hand....and everyone freaked out and was like "Zomg! He's like 3x Pwnerzoid better than regular Supez!"

When, in fact, the planet-moving feats (and others) that regular Supes has is at least that much.

And batdude. Quit quoting the old list. Hell, the 3-4 lists on this thread had the italics/bolds put in. Where are you even getting that one from?

I think AS Supes is intended to be stronger but Digi is right. He hasn't done anything to prove it besides showing off some extra powers here and there. I would be ok with putting him in either level.

well, AS supes did very well against superman 1,000,000, and he also had that armwrestle. and didn't he punch the cube world so hard it went into another dimension?