Originally posted by Battlehammer
How was that PIS? Colossus has never been a threat to Omega Red even with out the death factor he got man handle let a lone with it.
colossus does less damage with a full on punch than nightcrawler does by simply dropping the guy?
that was PIS, imo.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
yea if you base your opinion on pure bias and go against what been shown on pannel then yes you could come to that conclusion.
he doesn't have to be biased to have that opinion.
Originally posted by Raoul
colossus does less damage with a full on punch than nightcrawler does by simply dropping the guy?that was PIS, imo.
he doesn't have to be biased to have that opinion.
No Omega Red being KOed from the drop was pis. Him man handling and taking colossus punches arnt pis and something he been able to do in every single encounter. Have you read that arc at all? Becuases colossus and wolverine wer eboth KO by falls as well. It was PIS, in order to forward the plot. It does not make Omega Red stomping colossus PIS in the least.
really give one good reaosn why colossus is more powerful then a guy who man handles him
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Multiple teleportations could have taken a toll on him.
i disagree, tbh... though it could be argued that colossus softened him up, though i doubt it...
Originally posted by Battlehammer
No Omega Red being KOed from the drop was pis. Him man handling and taking colossus punches arnt pis and something he been able to do in every single encounter. Have you read that arc at all? Becuases colossus and wolverine wer eboth KO by falls as well. It was PIS, in order to forward the plot. It does not make Omega Red stomping colossus PIS in the least.really give one good reaosn why colossus is more powerful then a guy who man handles him
i did read the arc. one thing i noted also was theat the writer didn't seem to know much about colossus' powers.
Originally posted by Raouli did read the arc. one thing i noted also was theat the writer didn't seem to know much about colossus' powers.
really he seem to know quite enough from what I saw.
and are you going to answer my question on why you believe colossus is more powerful then an individual who has man handle him every time they fought?
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
NC's 'port KO'd Logan once. And Logan's taken Colossus full strength hit with a smile on his face.
ko'd him how?
Originally posted by Battlehammer
or better yet the author used high falls to further the plot which is what happened.
while ignoring both colossus and omega red's powers?
so if there's that much PIS, how can we assume the writer was being fair to either man?
Originally posted by Battlehammer
really he seem to know quite enough from what I saw.and are you going to answer my question on why you believe colossus is more powerful then an individual who has man handle him every time they fought?
he seemed to miss out on the fact that when colossus is knocked out, he reverts to human form. that's in half decent any colossus bio.
Originally posted by Raoulwhile ignoring both colossus and omega red's powers?
so if there's that much PIS, how can we assume the writer was being fair to either man?
he seemed to miss out on the fact that when colossus is knocked out, he reverts to human form. that's in half decent any colossus bio.
He did it to further the plot. It happens a lot it does no mean you can right off the entire issue.
actually he has remained metal after being knocked out quite a few times. That was mainly in his early days and we all know how much hand books suck
Originally posted by Battlehammer
He did it to further the plot. It happens a lot it does no mean you can right off the entire issue.actually he has remained metal after being knocked out quite a few times. That was mainly in his early days and we all know how much hand books suck
i never said i was writing it off. it's a nice issue.
happening in the early days isn't an excuse. every x-man suffered from writers who didn't know a damn about the powers of characters. nowadays we expect better, because comics are supposed to be of a higher standard.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
also you going to answer my question why is colossus more powerful then omega red? I wanna know, becuase I have yet to be given a single reason
i believe colossus is strong enough, smart enough, skilled enough and durable enough to beat omega red.
Originally posted by Raoul
i never said i was writing it off. it's a nice issue.happening in the early days isn't an excuse. every x-man suffered from writers who didn't know a damn about the powers of characters. nowadays we expect better, because comics are supposed to be of a higher standard.
i believe colossus is strong enough, smart enough, skilled enough and durable enough to beat omega red.
you missed what I was syaing completely. Him reverting to human form was only back in earlier days. He does not still always revert to human form while knocked out as many colossus fanboys will gladly point out to you.
to say the fight was pis is to right off the issue.
and yet he never been able too. Yes and it is bias to believe he more powerful when he never shown to be. Colossus is not smarter then red, he clearly not more skilled, hell even his durability is questionable. Omega Red armor only been pierced by adamatium, and he has a crazy healing factor on top of that. Omega Red wrecks teams, just because he one of Wolverine enemies does not mean Wolverine can take him.
oh and colossus even with a cheap shot and red not using his death factor still got man handle by red in the 90's