darthgoober
Senior Member
Well I don't know why Cresh wigged out and decided to talk trash and run but meh...
Anyway, could someone else please answer the question posed? What qualifies Jubilee for Mid-Mid Meta? She trashed a house which definitely says something, but does it really seem like a mid meta accomplishment with guys like Batman carrying C4, Slade carrying grenades that can KO Superboy, Gambit being able to KO Gladiator with a deck of cards, and Ironfist destroying trains? I know that those are one time feats for the characters, but how many times has Jubilee blown up a house? Cresh did mention something about a warehouse and that might be close, but I looked through this thread and the respect thread and couldn't find a scan so I can't really say whether or not it's comparable(since other factors might have been involved). She's also got that joint feat with Gambit, but he was in on the feat too and he's in Low Meta category. Her's might have been the blast that Wolverine spotted, but her blast seem like light shows and Gambit's blast pretty much just blow things around so of course her blast was the one that he noticed visibly. And other than those feats, she doesn't really have anything to her credit that even approaches Mid-Meta in impressiveness(at least that I've seen after looking through this and her respect thread).
People are saying that she straddles the line between the two tiers and maybe she does, but in those situations where the character fits between two tiers status becomes a factor and Jubilee never seemed to have much. Think about it, in those situations where she'd be pared with someone like Wolverine or Gambit(both Low Meta characters), how often would she be portrayed as the powerhouse of the team? I know her time on the X-Men was eariler in her career, but was she ever portrayed as a powerhouse in comparison to ANYONE in the Low Meta tier?
And just for the record, I'd be all for bumping Batman up. I mean he's got a lot of firepower(including high explosives) and versatility, he's got some kick ass armor that can take Hell of a beating, and he's one of the most consistently effective characters in combat regardless of how powerful his opponent is. But think about this, despite his having ALL that going for him, most of us are still only talking about bumping him up to Low Meta. And who does she really seem closer to someone like Batman, Gambit, or Dagger, or someone like Electro, Ms. Marvel, or the Ghost Rider?
I know the votes are already there so people don't really have to debate that want her placed at Mid, but the girl hasn't done anything solid to warrant the placement. Right now people are naming characters left and right that should be moved up just because of the likelihood of her being placed at Mid-Mid Meta. How can people see it as an accurate placement if it requires so much change in the current list?