Respect Venom

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How strong is Gargan Venom? He looked strong against Colossus and Hercules. In his fight with Colossus he smashed the ground and the tremors from his blow shook a whole city block and was knocking over cars and trolley cars.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
How strong is Gargan Venom? He looked strong against Colossus and Hercules. In his fight with Colossus he smashed the ground and the tremors from his blow shook a whole city block and was knocking over cars and trolley cars.

he can lift 40 tons while he's regualr size
i assume he can go up to about 75 tons with increase in mass

Originally posted by ankur29
he can lift 40 tons while he's regualr size
i assume he can go up to about 75 tons with increase in mass

I'd think that Gargan Venom's strength would be in class 100+. The symbiote increased Eddie's 700 lb lifting strength to ~20 tons (I think that was the most common strength listed for Eddie Venom, but correct me if I'm wrong). Mac already had Class 15 strength to begin with so he should be pulling in more towards 100 tons.

Also, is this a general Venom respect thread or just for Eddie Brock? Because Anti-Venom isn't technically Venom and I don't believe Mac Gargan has a respect thread.

What happened to Gargan since the end of Dark Avengers?

Originally posted by snoopdogg
What happened to Gargan since the end of Dark Avengers?

He was arrested at the end of Siege but I don't think he's been seen since and may still be imprisoned in The Raft.

He's been mentioned recently. He lost the symbiote. And I thank God every time I remember that happened. Someone else is gona become Venom by february.

Symbiotes strength I believe depends on how well they're bonded to the host.

Originally posted by SamZED
He's been mentioned recently. He lost the symbiote. And I thank God every time I remember that happened. Someone else is gona become Venom by february.

Symbiotes strength I believe depends on how well they're bonded to the host.

I remember that 😛

Symbiote have legal rights! ....

😂 Yeah, that made me lol too

What issue did Gargan lose the symbiote in? I've seen the solicit for February and it looks promising.

Originally posted by SamZED
He's been mentioned recently. He lost the symbiote. And I thank God every time I remember that happened. Someone else is gona become Venom by february.

Symbiotes strength I believe depends on how well they're bonded to the host.

I don't. I personally liked Gargan as Venom far more than Eddie and I grew up with the Spider-man animated series and him as Venom and he was one of my favorite comic book characters for a lot of my formative years.

But when I read The Thunderbolts run with Gargan on it, Dark Avengers, Sinister Spider-man and all the tie ins, I just found I liked Gargan's sociopathical mass murdering approach to being Venom. I liked how he became more than just a Spider-man villain and less of a joke he was when he was Scorpion. I loved how he was terrified of the symbiote but was addicted to the infamy and power that came with it, not wanting to return to just being a loser. He was a desperate man and would do anything to not lose the tenous grip he had on what he felt was fame and real power.

I'm not happy they took the symbiote from him but as long as they don't give it back to Eddie I'm good. I hate when writers bring back old characters or undo changes in characters' development just to play to the purist, conservative fanboys.

Venom ongoing in March

http://www.newsarama.com/comics/remender-moore-venom-ongoing-101209.html

Writer Rick Remender and artist Tony Moore

http://comics.ign.com/articles/113/1139513p1.html

Venom concept art:

http://marvel.com/images/gallery/story/14792/images_from_who_is_venom/image/847531

Not sure what to think of this. Looks cool though.

I don't know if that's the direction I want to see the symbiote...

Just bought and read Venom 1. I'm really liking Flash Thompson as Venom so far and I'm interested by what they're showing as the capabilities of the symbiote.

Now, since I'm "that guy", anyone planning on remaking this?

And if so, I'd like to say that all versions of Venom should be included and just have the feats separate (similar to the Wendigo respect thread). I think it's really narrow to just limit the Venom Respect thread to only be Eddie Brock. He's not Venom anymore and probably won't be any time soon.

So instead of having Venom feats strewn across multiple character threads, how about we don't make a Respect thread for any character named Venom but the symbiote itself?

I might get to it some time soon, but it will be a thread for Eddie Brock. Flash hasnt done much yet and Gargan doesnt deserve respect.

Originally posted by SamZED
Gargan doesnt deserve respect.

Thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiis.

Mac makes Rhino look good.

It doesn't matter if Gargan is a loser or not (though honestly I've never seen him get schooled as bad as Aleksei tends to be, especially including the infamous Tiny Deadpool collar), I put forward that the respect thread should be about Venom, not its hosts. The fact it could create an entire functioning tail appendage and consistently increase its host's size, muscle mass and strength to go toe to toe with higher than Class 40 foes is impressive for the symbiote.

I get what you're saying, but that'd be too much work for Sam and only a few would appreciate the thread having sections for Gargan and other newbie Venoms.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
I get what you're saying, but that'd be too much work for Sam and only a few would appreciate the thread having sections for Gargan and other newbie Venoms.

It'd be a misrepresentation of Eddie Brock at this point though.

He isn't Venom.

I understand the work load, but its not like the thread needs to be made even this year.

Originally posted by Scythe
Thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiis.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Mac makes Rhino look good.

😆

Eh.. I dunno. Maybe I'll make a section about symbiote's general abilities and include some stuff from Gargan's run. But his name will not be mentioned in the respect thread. It is a disgrace for both the symbiote and the cool oldschool villain once called Scorpion.