Originally posted by SamZED
The book says that its Brian Reed. Story isn't the worst thing about it, just look at the art... Maybe that's just me but I hate that kind of style.
I not a fan of the art either, it the same as what Brand new Day spiderman had for a while.
So it not just Bendis now, we have even more people ignoring Daken's powers wonderful. Same writers need to be briefed that Daken is not a poor mans Wolverine he very different. His claws are again the wrong color. He again had his pheromones ignored, and again they have him fighting with all three claws. Whats worse is they ignore the fact his third claw negates any healing factor or power, that it can kill anything.
Originally posted by SamZED
Mac was running around with a dog sticking ou of his eye..Here's the fight btw for anyone who hasn't seen it. Sorry its not imageshack, it wouldnt uppload it for some reason...
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Lol, wtf.
Originally posted by SamZED
Was that fight even canon? 'cause in "trial" Venom fought both Spider-man and Daredevil and as far as I remember they couldn't do squat against him. Were forced to set a trap. And there was another encounter, Spider-man and DD were both trying to stop Venom from killing Carnage. In the end they had to reason with him because they couldnt stop him any other way.And agreed he has more of mr.Fantastic kind of agility. But Brock is a pretty skilled fighter. Has some great feats without the symbiote.
It was canon. Badly, badly written canon. Matt wasn't really Eddie's main target and this was another of his near breakdown moments where he doesn't restrain himself at all though. I'd scan it if I had a scanner, but then the art is so dark and ugly it looks like turd on toiler paper anyway.
Originally posted by Darth Jellolol I see, but even toilet paper looks better than dark reign sinister spider-man. 😄
It was canon. Badly, badly written canon. Matt wasn't really Eddie's main target and this was another of his near breakdown moments where he doesn't restrain himself at all though. I'd scan it if I had a scanner, but then the art is so dark and ugly it looks like turd on toiler paper anyway.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
laughcry So true.Issue 3 and 4 were [B]drawn by two artists
, though. One was mediocre and the another one (from your scans, too lazy to check out his name) - god awful. [/B]
I was wondering about that. I originally planned on buying this miniseries, but when I saw the art, I decided not to. I was able to read them though, and I noticed at one point the art actually got better, then it went to crap again.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
I not a fan of the art either, it the same as what Brand new Day spiderman had for a while.So it not just Bendis now, we have even more people ignoring Daken's powers wonderful. Same writers need to be briefed that Daken is not a poor mans Wolverine he very different. His claws are again the wrong color. He again had his pheromones ignored, and again they have him fighting with all three claws. Whats worse is they ignore the fact his third claw negates any healing factor or power, that it can kill anything.
Yeah, I wonder why they ignore that third, kill-anything claw.
Perhaps because it's a shit idea and serves no purpose. If he can kill anything with it, why have it?
"His claws are the wrong colour.".
Get over the hump, man. Seriously.
Besides, Daken is still developing as a character. He hasn't been around long at all. Two years last March. Writers are still experimenting with him. If the beef you have is "He has wrong coloured claws", then really, stop complaining.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Yeah, I wonder why they ignore that third, kill-anything claw.Perhaps because it's a shit idea and serves no purpose. If he can kill anything with it, why have it?
"His claws are the wrong colour.".
Get over the hump, man. Seriously.
Besides, Daken is still developing as a character. He hasn't been around long at all. Two years last March. Writers are still experimenting with him. If the beef you have is "He has wrong coloured claws", then really, stop complaining.
-AC
It quite a big deal for him to have his claws all be white, when four of them are black and to are red. It also is rediculous to ignore the fact that there that are magical which is an entire point of symbolism of the character. Who also plotting, always prepared and full of surprizes. The way he been shown in the dark x-men is completely against his entire concept of his character and instead in dark x-men and sinster spiderman he treated as poor mans wolverine when he very different character.
He already had two plus arc solo purposes was to develope his character, and to ignore that in cross overs is rediculous
No my problem is they ignore his magical claws, they ignored his character developement by the creator he spend much time making him into the character he is for them to just make him crappy knock off of wolverine. He all about manipulation, cunning, surprize, intellect none of which he shows in dark x-men or in sinster spiderman. They also ignore one of his powers his pheramone manipulation which is key concept and power utalized in his on going.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
Because it a secret weapon and if you read Wolverine comics you know it dangerous to uses, if he damage his arm while it was out he could kill him self. The point is that he uses his two normal claws on either hand and the one that comes out of his wrist are supposes to be hidden and unknown. Having him uses all three and ignoring the magical claw defeat the entire purposes of the entire huge character developing arc that occurred.
Yes, I get that. I get that it negates the third claw being secret.
However, having a third claw that kills anything and negates ANY healing factor and ANY power is patently absurd. I'm sorry, but it is.
You can't suggest that Bendis read up on Daken, who is two years old, because you want him to have a claw that negates the established powers of people who've been around for 70 years varying.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
It quite a big deal for him to have his claws all be white, when four of them are black and to are red. It also is rediculous to ignore the fact that there that are magical which is an entire point of symbolism of the character. Who also plotting, always prepared and full of surprizes. The way he been shown in the dark x-men is completely against his entire concept of his character and instead in dark x-men and sinster spiderman he treated as poor mans wolverine when he very different character.
I do not see him as a poor man's Wolverine. I think he was initially one, if anything, and is no longer.
How played out is the "Oh my god, I have a son! He has similar powers and is slightly better than me! Oh, how obsolete I feel!" angle? Daken is different. I don't read him as a poor man's Wolverine at all.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
No my problem is they ignore his magical claws, they ignored his character developement by the creator he spend much time making him into the character he is for them to just make him crappy knock off of wolverine. He all about manipulation, cunning, surprize, intellect none of which he shows in dark x-men or in sinster spiderman. They also ignore one of his powers his pheramone manipulation which is key concept and power utalized in his on going.
How can you say he's no longer about intellect?
Did you not see his interaction with Osborn where he dissected him mentally as he would with any opponent?
The whole "Position, ripost, strike." thing?
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriYes, I get that. I get that it negates the third claw being secret.
However, having a third claw that kills anything and negates ANY healing factor and ANY power is patently absurd. I'm sorry, but it is.
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It negates ones ability to heal, not there other powers. Not sure what the problem is, it extremely dangerous to uses, which is why it stays hidden and not used untill certainly writers completely ignored it. It no more absurd then DP immortality.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
can't suggest that Bendis read up on Daken, who is two years old, because you want him to have a claw that negates the established powers of people who've been around for 70 years varying.
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Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I do not see him as a poor man's Wolverine. I think he was initially one, if anything, and is no longer.
How played out is the "Oh my god, I have a son! He has similar powers and is slightly better than me! Oh, how obsolete I feel!" angle? Daken is different. I don't read him as a poor man's Wolverine at all.
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Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
How can you say he's no longer about intellect?Did you not see his interaction with Osborn where he dissected him mentally as he would with any opponent?
The whole "Position, ripost, strike." thing?
-AC [/B]
