Respect Venom

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Originally posted by Battlehammer
It negates ones ability to heal, not there other powers. Not sure what the problem is, it extremely dangerous to uses, which is why it stays hidden and not used untill certainly writers completely ignored it. It no more absurd then DP immortality.

How is "You're cursed with immortality.", anywhere near as absurd as Daken's third claw being able to negate powers for no justifiable reason?

Originally posted by Battlehammer
It one ability to negate heal thats it. Yes I want the character to retain the ability that was two arcs in the making. So it ok to simply ignore powers now? Whats annoying is that it not like he uses much if at all, which is why they easily could of had him using his two claws instead, but of course how rediculous of me to assume a writer would actually read up on a character he going to uses in his issue........

Two arcs in the making, so if we assume he's been in more then four arcs, and only two contained that power...then it's the minority isn't it? They're working with the character, it's still new. If we stuck with originals, Superman wouldn't even be able to fly.

What makes you so arrogant as to think Bendis didn't read up on Daken? Maybe he did and just decided it wasn't something he agreed with? You don't hear Daniel Way complaining.

Stop assuming you know more about Marvel and that these writers somehow miss things just because they don't include them.

Daniel Way isn't writing Deadpool how I'd like him to. It doesn't mean he hasn't read The Circle Chase. It means he probably has and just doesn't want to write him like that.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
You missed my point. It annoying that a character has theses astablish abilities and currently still show them and his run, but then randomly his abilities are completely ignore in a cross over and in another on going and is shown to be nothing but a poor mans Logan.

You missed my point. I am not speaking of his current run or dark avengers. I am talking about dark x-men cross over, new avenger cross over and sinster spiderman. Each of which his pheramones was ignore, his magical claws (which they could have left sheathed and his his character, replaced with a brainless rage riod individual.

I never saw him as a poor man's Wolverine or a roidrage individual at all, to be honest.

I thought he was good in Dark X-Men.

Sure, it doesn't make the most sense. I see what you're saying. You're saying that if they didn't wanna use the claw, they didn't have to and they could have left it hidden. However, they exposed it and just ignored the ability? Yes, that'd probably be a bit of a pisser.

However, if that's JUST appearances or cameos, why worry? The established character will always win through in the end.

-AC

Originally posted by Battlehammer
I not a fan of the art either, it the same as what Brand new Day spiderman had for a while.

So it not just Bendis now, we have even more people ignoring Daken's powers wonderful. Same writers need to be briefed that Daken is not a poor mans Wolverine he very different. His claws are again the wrong color. He again had his pheromones ignored, and again they have him fighting with all three claws. Whats worse is they ignore the fact his third claw negates any healing factor or power, that it can kill anything.

just be glad that writers also forget that if daken is caught by superhumanly strong charecters i.e class 40+ gargan (cyber's strength upwards) he'd be snapped in two ...
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ASM new ways to die #2

Anti venom appears to have his brains blown to bits by punisher(who is trying hard to kill him) & a shotgun… not the case when his suit spits out the shell fragments from his head,
Venom also is unphased by punisher’s arsenal & shows good reflexes as he catches the projectile shield and shows he could have pulled the trigger on castle as his tentacle sneaks up and disarms frank:

Venom is now also immune to fire:

Suit stops a frank stabbing a knife into Eddie’s throat :

Is the Anti-Venom symbiote sentient or is Eddie the only mind there? Too early to tell?

Too early I guess, but anti-venom is the same symbiote Brock originally had. It was always a part of him. The only difference, now its effected by Negative's power. Either way Brock is in controle. Remember that book when Eddie (after selling the symbiote) was commanded by it to kill Aunt May while she's in a hospital. He didn't do it, and said that he's in charge of the alien.

I am not liking the new anti venom series. Brock was never the sharpest knife in the draw but he wasn't retarted either.

What do you mean? What makes you think he's retarded in the new series?

Originally posted by SamZED
Too early I guess, but anti-venom is the same symbiote Brock originally had. It was always a part of him. The only difference, now its effected by Negative's power. Either way Brock is in controle. Remember that book when Eddie (after selling the symbiote) was commanded by it to kill Aunt May while she's in a hospital. He didn't do it, and said that he's in charge of the alien.

I didn't think it was the original Venom symbiote, I thought it was created from what was left over. I also thought Eddie went crazy when the "symbiote" told him to kill Aunt May, as he was near death. I'm just confused.

Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
I didn't think it was the original Venom symbiote, I thought it was created from what was left over. I also thought Eddie went crazy when the "symbiote" told him to kill Aunt May, as he was near death. I'm just confused.
Hm.maybe you're right. He does call himself "me" not "we" so... Its just I always thought that the hospital story was an attempt to make up for the old book where Venom symbiote suddenly took control over Eddie instead of being controled by him (long ago Venom was the only syimbiote that was willing to serve its host instead of controling it)

When Brock went after Aunt May it sort of reminds me of when Venom ate the Carnage symbiote and Cletus painted himself red calling himself Carnage.

Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
When Brock went after Aunt May it sort of reminds me of when Venom ate the Carnage symbiote and Cletus painted himself red calling himself Carnage.
Ok when did THAT happen? I thought I've read every Carnage appearance. 🙁

Originally posted by SamZED
Ok when did THAT happen? I thought I've read every Carnage appearance. 🙁

Which part?

Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
Which part?
Cassidy painting himself red.

I think I've found it:

http://www.comicvine.com/peter-parker-spider-man-living-in-oblivion/37-68490/

I might have scans of it at home.

Thanks!🙂 Dont worry, ill find it.

Originally posted by SamZED
What do you mean? What makes you think he's retarded in the new series?
Him curing the girl and being in utter denial that shes using or him being flabbergasted that frank tried to kill him. The fact that frank was able to talk him into retracting the symbiote and like an ignorant child he asks him , "You uh promise not to kill be Right"? He seems like a neutered dog in the new series.

Well he had to retract the symbiote because they had to show their ids and Frank took advantage of that. But yeah, him trusting the girl so much is kinda wrong.

Originally posted by SamZED
Well he had to retract the symbiote because they had to show their ids and Frank took advantage of that. But yeah, him trusting the girl so much is kinda wrong.
He used to avoid retracting the symbiote by just make it become clothes and forming a hat to guard his face. Or he could just blend in with the environment and not be seen at all. He knows how much of a homicidal killer Frank is, any other version would have spared Frank after the first attempt and threatened to rip his heart out if he tried again. Even when he was the "Lethal Protector" Frank wouldn't have dared try what he tried without risk of having his spleen removed.

ASM: Anti Venom #3:

AV batters a bunch of goons:

Can grow larger like Gargan & his suit is bulletproof to heavy machine gun fire
(also either he is running quite fast or kicking up a lot of dust)

Strength: easily tosses aside military cargo trucks:

Continued...

Strength :After being hit by a jeep and parked on by it & wacked in the head with a sledge hammer, he lifts the jeep off himself and put it on the guy who ran him over:

Eddie kills that guy, and says he be good from tomorrow:

Anti Venom >> Gargan Venom