should point out, because i know these get used for versus threads.
The Fusion Symbiote hybrid, was a lot differant. It actually replicated the host, and amped whatever they had big time, as it did Ripclaw, and even took on a larger version of his appearance for awhile. It also didnt need a host to function whatsoever.
Mac Gargan
Dark Reign: Sinister Spider-Man #3
Mac gets called in for a bomb threat, which ends up being a trap set by a group
of losers he just chewed up, now put back together with cybernetic limbs
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Eleven attacks Gargan with sonics,which he takes, then bites off her head and swallows
it
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Dr.Everything, a parody of Dr.Manhatten, creates a gag over Garagns mouth while
Dementoid takes advantage to attack, only to find out that Garagn can form as
he needs from anywhere on his body. Dementoid loses more limbs.
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Hippo attempts ramming Mac, only to be stopped in his tracks, then Mac headbutts
him knocking out his teeth. Wolfram decides to wuss out and make a break for it
(smart guy) but Gargan tosses Hippo at him, taking them both down
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y160/CATMANEXE/gargan/ss3/SinisterSpider-Man3019.jpg
Gargan goes back to giving Dementoid some more pain, then Dr.Everything decides its
a wash as well and takes off the mouth clamp. Gargan then nabs the leader The
Redeemer and eats his arms
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nothing to see here folks, a job well done by your friendly neighborhood Spider-Man!
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Eddie Brock
Anti-Venom - New Ways to Live #1
for those who need to know, Eddie Brock is now Anti-Venom.
here is a synopsis.
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summary: when Mr.Negative used his powers to cure Brock of cancer, it
triggered a hidden ability in Brock to develop his own symbiote.
as Anti-Venom, Brock possesses the same powers he had before as Venom,
super strength, super speed, super agility, camouflaging, and tentacles,
as well as Spider-Man based powers like webbing, wall crawling, swinging,
spider-sense, ect, all enhanced.
new advantages to being Anti-Venom are firstly his symbiote is no longer
a separate entity. this leaves Brocks only battle with himself, and allows
him a greater deal of control over all of his abilities which are now dependent
on his own mind and reflexes, and very great considering the amount of time he
has spent using a symbiote. he now also has the additional abilities to cure
any diseases or abnormalities in any being, one particular ability is he can purge
symbiotes from hosts as well.
Brock himself is a trained detective, able to scope out
a scene and know what is going on, as well he is very skilled at hand to hand and the
use of firearms.Brock is now attempting to turn over a new leaf, using his abilities to
clean up crime and help those in need. all the while, he must avoid capture as he is
now a fugitive having fought Norman Osborns Thunderbolts.
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Brock uses some speed and camouflaging skills to avoid notice.
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Anti-Venom wrecks a couple of drug dealers, showing great strength and control with
his tentacles
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Brock sneaks a tentacle behind the gunman, wrapping it around his thumb and disarming
him. He then goes on to tell his soon to be victim he can detect hepatitis in his
body.
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the drug dealer goes on to taunt Eddie with the news that his friend has been infected
as well. Brock lets him know that he has purged her of hepatitis, and even of her heroine
addiction. Having enough of this fool Brock decides its time to choke him.
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lucky for this guy, Brock promised his friend he wouldnt kill (at least when shes
around) so Brock leaves him unconscious
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Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Mac Gargan is the best thing to ever happen to the Venom symbiote in ages.He's finally giving it back some legitimate power, instead of that anti-hero nonsense.
-AC
I'll be the first to say the whole anti-hero thing was and still is pretty cheezy (Anti-Venom is currently playing that card), but in the same stroke it can be a guilty read if done well (i.e. Deadpool).
I liked Venom best when he didn't have an angle other than battling his inner demons, preferably as a villain that thought he was a hero or just as a villain.
And I dislike Gargan greatly. He's weak and an idiot. I don't think he's doing the symbiote or the name any favors.
I've nothing against anti-heros, just writers using it as a way to do something with a character they don't know.
Originally posted by KingD19
All Gargan Venom does is job and eat random people.
Well Brock Venom came out on the losing side so often that he ended up being a good guy.
Can't really get much more pathetic than that.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I've nothing against anti-heros, just writers using it as a way to do something with a character they don't know.Well Brock Venom came out on the losing side so often that he ended up being a good guy.
Can't really get much more pathetic than that.
-AC
I know what you mean, but villains usually come out losing anyways.
I think he was just so popular at the time that he became a hero. And he was one of the major characters that were apart of the dark/anti-hero phase in comics during the 90's (i.e. Spawn, Spider-man, Venom, Nightwatch, ect).
And I personally liked how he was still a murderer though he claimed himself to be a hero. He had a warped sense of justice.
Depends on the writer I suppose. I know I didn't care for "The Mace" series or "Sinners Take All", but others were better like "Funeral Pyre" and "Separation Anxiety".
He didn't stick to the whole anti-hero gimmick in the end. During the tsunami imprints he was a recluse that got involved in a plot in cloning the symbiote and using it as a weapon. Although it wasn't successful, I still liked it.
And I think Gargan being afraid of Bullseye is truly pathetic.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I've nothing against anti-heros, just writers using it as a way to do something with a character they don't know.Well Brock Venom came out on the losing side so often that he ended up being a good guy.
Can't really get much more pathetic than that.
-AC
How about Mac with the suit being afraid of Bullseye and instead of killing him or shutting him up, he runs and snitch to Norman?
Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
How about Mac with the suit being afraid of Bullseye and instead of killing him or shutting him up, he runs and snitch to Norman?
In TASM Lester was babysitting him. I won't even mention the alliance against Daken. Their relationship is truly hilarious.
And yes, Gargan Venom is a joke. I'm surprised to find out that Alpha Centauri wasn't being sarcastic.
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriWhat are you talking about? The only person he's been losing to often is Spider-man due to PIS. Other than that he has crazy showings, owning almost every major Spider-man villain - Electro, Sandman, Carnage, Kraven, Morbius etc as well as great showings against other characters like Wolverine, Thing, Ghost rider, Hulk, She-Hulk, Human Torch and even Juggernaut that either ended with him winning or in a stalemate (more often winning). Gargan on the other hand gets his ass handed to him so often I lost count by anyone who isnt too lazy to fight him. Spider-man summed it up pretty well, a loser dressed up like Venom is still a loser.
I've nothing against anti-heros, just writers using it as a way to do something with a character they don't know.Well Brock Venom came out on the losing side so often that he ended up being a good guy.
Can't really get much more pathetic than that.
-AC
