Is it actually be editorial leaning that..........?

Makes Superman the top dog he is, or just writers gushing over him themselves?

Is the editorial decree that he be first among his peers merely battleboard legend, or is it actually real?

Anybody who's interviewed writers, can you clarify?

This comes from the haterade that Newjak was tossing Supermans way.

And can you name other characters that fall under editorial decree possibly, in either a negative or positive light?

Like someone who's taken so many lumps as a character, that the editors must have it out for them?

Ex, Stiltman. or Wonderman?

God STFU

Superman is like Christ in DC. He makes the company, without him, DC falls...so they have to have him as their top dog. Plus, he is the most iconic, popular hero in the world.

Originally posted by masterbruce
Superman is like Christ in DC. He makes the company, without him, DC falls...so they have to have him as their top dog. Plus, he is the most iconic, popular hero in the world.

Originally posted by Validus
God STFU

Ohh 🙁

U 😠 B?

No. 😄

What haterade?

Originally posted by masterbruce
Superman is like Christ in DC. He makes the company, without him, DC falls...so they have to have him as their top dog. Plus, he is the most iconic, popular hero in the world.

Originally posted by Juntai
Batman is the cash machine.

Originally posted by Juntai
Batman is the cash machine.

I'd wager that any character that has more than one book out at the same time, is a virtual cashmachine.

See Spiderman, Wolverine, Xmen, Superman, Batman etc.

Them be the moneymakers right there.

Money makers, but less so.

Hulk, F4, Robin, Titans etc.

Now answer the question.

Do you think it's actual editorial decree that backs him, or just writers who were crazy fans in their youth?

And what does that mean for guys like MM, who might have a small but dedicated fanbase himself?

10 years from now, if i still read comics, you think MM might be an undisputed powerhouse in DC?
Same for WW, Orion, GL and the rest?

Originally posted by Juntai
What haterade?

And no I don't hate Superman I just look at the fact he can't loose in DC because he is the flagship character.

Therefore I think typically his actual power is below the Top GLs and more in line with someone like Cap. Marvel and Martian Manhunter.

With most of his typical good feats coming at the ends of fights.

I'll use a good analogy. Juggernaut at least Classic was a villain therefore he was always destined to loose and of course he lost because of that reason it doesn't mean that people like the X-Men and Spiderman are really that strong Juggernaut just had to loose.

I think it is the reverse with Superman maybe even more so because he is the flagship he must never loose in DC ever no matter who he is up against no matter how much he should be beaten.

Originally posted by Validus
God STFU

DOUBLE cosignage.

What is it with you and Superman? 🤨

EVERY thread you make is about DC politics and how they write him.

Get over it.

Originally posted by UniOmni
I'd wager that any character that has more than one book out at the same time, is a virtual cashmachine.

See Spiderman, Wolverine, Xmen, Superman, Batman etc.

Them be the moneymakers right there.

Money makers, but less so.

Hulk, F4, Robin, Titans etc.

Now answer the question.

Do you think it's actual editorial decree that backs him, or just writers who were crazy fans in their youth?

And what does that mean for guys like MM, who might have a small but dedicated fanbase himself?

10 years from now, if i still read comics, you think MM might be an undisputed powerhouse in DC?
Same for WW, Orion, GL and the rest?

I think in the future Superman will start to loose some of that Flagship immunity and we'll start to see other characters step up and take over.

I would like to see more of a equal stepping up so a lot of characters get their overdo spotlight.

Originally posted by batdude123
[B]DOUBLE cosignage.

What is it with you and Superman? 🤨

EVERY thread you make is about DC politics and how they write him.

Get over it. [/B]

Imagine this Batsy.

You want to write comics. Really badly.

You also want your comic creations to be in the DCU, because you want them to interact with WW, Booster Gold and Cap Marvel.

You even want him/her to interact with big blue himself, but you're really afraid of how other writers/mandates might affect the growth of your character.

Silly, right, since all characters in DC are cherished, right?

Right.............?

But you see how characters in DC sometimes get handled, if they aren't Bruce or Clark.

You don't want that to happen to your favorite character.

Now, this was me 10 years ago.

And it's likely many people nowadays as well.

That's why i ask these questions...

Plus, since i'm trying to write my own comics, i'm trying to see if i want my favorites to be backed by any future editorial decrees.

I would kill to have my characters get one shotted by Superman. droolio

You aim low Vally. Really low.

Go read S/B. See what happens to Wog?

Originally posted by Newjak
My hatorade 😄

And no I don't hate Superman I just look at the fact he can't loose in DC because he is the flagship character.

Therefore I think typically his actual power is below the Top GLs and more in line with someone like Cap. Marvel and Martian Manhunter.

With most of his typical good feats coming at the ends of fights.

I'll use a good analogy. Juggernaut at least Classic was a villain therefore he was always destined to loose and of course he lost because of that reason it doesn't mean that people like the X-Men and Spiderman are really that strong Juggernaut just had to loose.

I think it is the reverse with Superman maybe even more so because he is the flagship he must never loose in DC ever no matter who he is up against no matter how much he should be beaten.

However, what we debate on is based on comic showings. Ignoring those and creating your own lesser version of Superman to debate with is kinda wrong and in contradication to his appearances.

Do you do this with all characters?

Basically, I'm asking, because I'd sorta like to know how seriously I can take your posts if I see them in a thread.

Originally posted by UniOmni
You aim low Vally. Really low.

Go read S/B. See what happens to Wog?

Originally posted by Newjak
I think its both writers who tend to want Superman to be the one that wins everything and Editors realizing they really can't change it now.

I think in the future Superman will start to loose some of that Flagship immunity and we'll start to see other characters step up and take over.

I would like to see more of a equal stepping up so a lot of characters get their overdo spotlight.

Superman and Batman will always be the flagship.

Originally posted by Juntai
This is sort of the bias against Supes that is all over the forum. If Thanos smacks around 10 100class guys, it's cool. If Superman does it, it's 'because he's a flagship character', and then brushed aside and ignored?

However, what we debate on is based on comic showings. Ignoring those and creating your own lesser version of Superman to debate with is kinda wrong and in contradication to his appearances.

Do you do this with all characters?

Basically, I'm asking, because I'd sorta like to know how seriously I can take your posts if I see them in a thread.

And I understand this but there is kind of a loophole rule to Superman that everyone seems to abide when describing his power level.

In that no matter how strong a character is shown to be without Superman like a Green Lantern once they are around a big threat with Superman even though they could equally do just as well or better it is always Superman that must be the one to win. Then people loop it around in saying that he must be stronger than all these characters because he was chosen to win and no one else. When in reality it was because he was DCs flagship character.

Despite his personal showings being less than that of other characters.

Its not a bias against Superman its common sense to understand Superman gets kind of mini upgrades if you want to call them that only when he has to win against someone and not before or after that moment in time.

Where you want to place him without the having-to-win-power is up to you. Personally I see Gladiator and Superman as pretty interchangeable without it.