Well... there's no hard evidence Abraham existed apart from the biblical narratives and the clues given about his time being accurate... around 2000 BC.
The more interesting question in fact is whether Akenaten's reign preceded or followed Moses... the traditional author of the first five books of Moses. An interesting tidbit is that Akenaten tutor during his childhood had a clearly Hebrew name... Fascinating no? Who influenced who?
Originally posted by queeq
Well... there's no hard evidence Abraham existed apart from the biblical narratives and the clues given about his time being accurate... around 2000 BC.The more interesting question in fact is whether Akenaten's reign preceded or followed Moses... the traditional author of the first five books of Moses. An interesting tidbit is that Akenaten tutor during his childhood had a clearly Hebrew name... Fascinating no? Who influenced who?
I have heard that the Pharaoh from the OT and Moses was Ramses II, ~1300s BC. That would be later, I think... 😕
Originally posted by Da Pittman
So it was a dumb question, why should I answer a dumb question? Your question has the same answer as the ones I posted, if you can answer them then you have your answer.
I asked a question that directly pertained to your own belief and you side-stepped it with humor instead of an intelligent reply.
Why?
Originally posted by JesusIsAliveWell you have done the same thing to everyone on this forum so why not me? Anyways it is a dumb question and just as valid as the ones I asked you, you can not answer the question that you asked just the same as you can't answer the ones I asked. I could ask you why with all your intelligence and reasons that you have not found the cure for cancer, this would be the same as your question. I guess you can say the answer to your question is that they haven't found it yet, is that what you are looking for? If you want a real answer then ask a real question and don't waste my time, I have asked you so many questions and you side step them so why should I answer your questions when you do not do the same?
I asked a question that directly pertained to your own belief and you side-stepped it with humor instead of an intelligent reply.Why?
Originally posted by Robtard
It wasn't about if either would happen with 100% certainty, as 1,000 years from now, deranged Christians like you will still be saying "any day now, the rapture is coming!"The point, which you agreed with, was that YOU (and only you) COULDN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH.
It isn't just "deranged" Christians that believe in the return of Jesus and the final judgement.
Indeed, The Hour shall come; there is no doubt of it, but most men believe it not.
-The Koran 40:61
Many Hindus also believe in the return of Jesus.
Originally posted by Da Pittman
Well you have done the same thing to everyone on this forum so why not me? Anyways it is a dumb question and just as valid as the ones I asked you, you can not answer the question that you asked just the same as you can't answer the ones I asked. I could ask you why with all your intelligence and reasons that you have not found the cure for cancer, this would be the same as your question. I guess you can say the answer to your question is that they haven't found it yet, is that what you are looking for? If you want a real answer then ask a real question and don't waste my time, I have asked you so many questions and you side step them so why should I answer your questions when you do not do the same?
Why not take the high road and answer my question instead of making excuses? If you don't know the answer then you could simply say this and I will understand.
Originally posted by Da Pittman
Let me ask you this JIA, what would it take to prove to you that God doesn't exist? And I know that you are just going to turn around and ask me what would it take to prove to me that God exists and if you answer my question truthfully I will answer it as well.
It is too late, I am already absolutely, unequivocally, convinced that God is real. If I did not believe this then I would not be on this forum or praying for the salvation of everyone on this site daily.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
It is too late, I am already absolutely, unequivocally, convinced that God is real. If I did not believe this then I would not be on this forum or praying for the salvation of everyone on this site daily.
never say never. you are not 100% in control of what happens to you and who you turn out to be.
Originally posted by JesusIsAliveSo then there is no use for anyone to talk to you unless they wish to be converted, no matter what evidence or logic that anyone has would be pointless to show you. The same can be said for anything that you post, why would anyone want to respond to someone that will not listen or even entertain the idea that their view maybe wrong?
It is too late, I am already absolutely, unequivocally, convinced that God is real. If I did not believe this then I would not be on this forum or praying for the salvation of everyone on this site daily.
As I have said I would answer the question that I asked you since you did give me an honest answer. As for me there is only two things that I could see that would convince me of God’s existence. The first is to see him with my own eyes, this could be him coming down and going “Hey I’m God and I made you” or some type of personal vision. Now this in no way proves that he exists but that I see him, he could be real of a delusion but either way this would convince me that he is real for me. The other would be is all the scientific community could agree and prove that God does exist though logical debate or scientific method. Now there maybe other ways but these two are the only ones that I see.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
It is too late, I am already absolutely, unequivocally, convinced that God is real. If I did not believe this then I would not be on this forum or praying for the salvation of everyone on this site daily.
It is too late? No, you may still be able to handle the truth. It may require a paradigm shift in your life, but that can still happen.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I have heard that the Pharaoh from the OT and Moses was Ramses II, ~1300s BC. That would be later, I think... 😕
Depends on what chronology you prefer. Traditionally Moses is linked to Merenptah, RII's son. But there is no hard link other than the reference of Merenptah of "the seed of Israel is no more" on his famous Merenptah Stele.
If you prefer a lower chronology, we'd have to look for Moses' pharaoh longer before the New Kingdom.
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
It isn't just "deranged" Christians that believe in the return of Jesus and the final judgement.[b]Indeed, The Hour shall come; there is no doubt of it, but most men believe it not.
-The Koran 40:61Many Hindus also believe in the return of Jesus. [/B]
I don't think the Return of Jesus-God is in the Muslim's "end times", as Jesus was just a man to them.
Are you sure about this (link)? I know the Christians are pushing hard at converting the Hindu "outcast" caste into Christians, and I know Ghandi was moved/inspired by the teachings of Jesus, but I've never heard of Jesus-God being a integral part of Hinduism.
Anyhow, I'd tell them not to hold their breath while waiting.
Originally posted by queeq
Depends on what chronology you prefer. Traditionally Moses is linked to Merenptah, RII's son. But there is no hard link other than the reference of Merenptah of "the seed of Israel is no more" on his famous Merenptah Stele.If you prefer a lower chronology, we'd have to look for Moses' pharaoh longer before the New Kingdom.
Heston took on Ramses II, so that's how it is.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
It is too late, I am already absolutely, unequivocally, convinced that God is real. If I did not believe this then I would not be on this forum or praying for the salvation of everyone on this site daily.
Is a "thank you" in order?
Do you visit other sites and pray for them as well, or is KMC just the lucky one?
Originally posted by Robtard
I don't think the Return of Jesus-God is in the Muslim's "end times", as Jesus was just a man to them.Are you sure about this (link)? I know the Christians are pushing hard at converting the Hindu "outcast" caste into Christians, and I know Ghandi was moved/inspired by the teachings of Jesus, but I've never heard of Jesus-God being a integral part of Hinduism.
Anyhow, I'd tell them not to hold their breath while waiting.
the return of jesus is very much in muslim beleif. he was never killed according to muslims on the cross and was taken to the heavens before the event alive. when darjal{the anti christ if islamic mythology} comes down to wreak havoc on earth, jesus will come down too and be one wiht the muslims and reject the christians and will follow under the command of an imaam who will lead the righteous forces against darjal and will die after his natural life on earth and the muslims will bury him and offer the prayer at his death. that is what muslims beleive.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
the return of jesus is very much in muslim beleif. he was never killed according to muslims on the cross and was taken to the heavens before the event alive. when darjal{the anti christ if islamic mythology} comes down to wreak havoc on earth, jesus will come down too and be one wiht the muslims and reject the christians and will follow under the command of an imaam who will lead the righteous forces against darjal and will die after his natural life on earth and the muslims will bury him and offer the prayer at his death. that is what muslims beleive.
It's not really the same Jesus, as the Muslims don't believe Jesus is God, aka Jesus-God, right?