Can you handle the Truth?

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Whether Hinduism truly is a monotheistic religion "in disguise" or a pagan one has been a subject of debate. Last week while on my lunch break, I was killing time at Hastings and I came across a world religion book that said that the idea that Hinduism is actually monotheistic and all their countless gods are all actually one, isn't a very old notion. It said that Hindus made it up to appeal to Mulsim invaders who killed anyone that worshipped more than one god.

Are India's 150 million Muslims second-class citizens?

not really, the fact of a tracendental brahma which has no images and no likeness in the world is present in the vedas, you dont get any more authentic then that in hinduism. as for the second part, it depends. if you go to dehli and are a liberal muslim and dont live in any specific communal area then you probably will not be socially discriminated{although discrimination is still present in public systems}, but if you are a practicing muslim and dont live in a booming metropolis or even live in a slighltly shadier place you will definately be discriminated against, and if you are living in normal city/slums/suburb/villages{villages being where the majority of people live} then you willl be SEVERELY discriminated against. muslim children are discriminated against in school by faculty and grading etc{yes it might be hard to beleive but it is a fact} and even most people in the government sector, {i.e. qualified workers} are discriminated against in the work setting on acheivements etc, upto a point that even if you are a muslim in the indian embassy, you are discriminated against. the places where you really arentdiscriminated against are circles of super liberal people., hindu or otherwise in the fancier parts of developed cities like mumbai or if you are a muslim who is well recognised{i.e. movie stars etc, although it can be questioned whethere they even qualify for practicing muslims}.

so yea, in general india's 150 millions muslims are second class citizens, but thing are changing, non uniformly{geographically and chronologically} . its kind of the same as caste based prejudice is spread and changin in india, its still there in the majority, but in specific issues, and in specific places and points in time., it is much lesser or almost disappears.

anyhow, POINT being, india is a ****ed up country, and dont let overly glamorous media propaganda make you think otherwise.

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
When are you going to accept the Primacy of the Roman Pontiff and become a Christian?

errrrr, you didnt honestly mean that did you??? 😕

Originally posted by leonheartmm
errrrr, you didnt honestly mean that did you??? 😕

I do enjoy winding JIA up...much to the amusement of Shaky.

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
I do enjoy winding JIA up...much to the amusement of Shaky.

😆

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Originally posted by JesusIsAlive

brain·wash·ing
Pronunciation: \ˈbrān-ˌwȯ-shiŋ, -ˌwä-\
Function: noun
Etymology: translation of Chinese (Beijing) xǐnǎo
Date: 1950
1 : a forcible indoctrination to induce someone to give up basic political, social, or religious beliefs and attitudes and to accept contrasting regimented ideas
2 : persuasion by propaganda or salesmanship

Originally posted by Robtard
YouTube video
Got to get them when their young...

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
A very very worrying video. However, is it an objective view of the world's Christian community?

I edited in "fanaticals", as I've known moderate Christians who don't push their Jesus onto you, though they're very rare.

Originally posted by Robtard
I edited in "fanaticals", as I've known moderate Christians who don't push their Jesus onto you, though they're very rare.

Well, I dunno about that...what country are you in?

Location: California = USA

Originally posted by Robtard
Location: California = USA

Well, what might be true in America might not be true in Venezulla or Iraq or France...

Certainly, the fundamentalists that dominate America do not have much of a voice out side the States, that I have come across in the UK anyway.

And who in the hell cares about those countries or any country other than the 'good ole US of A"?

Well true, but as you well know, America is a major player in the global game, if the fundies get their way here, it could bode ill for you, over there. The Christian Right was all up for GW Bush in 2000, after all, he (conveniently) became a teetotaler and found Jesus.

I am confident Europe is beyond the reach of your fundies 🙂

We are loosing God at a rapid rate...possibly.

Let's hope, as Europe is my escape plan if they take over.

I don't think loosing God is intrinsically a good thing, but I would like God kept out of politics though. God should be for personal use, not used as a bludgeoning tool on others.

Originally posted by Robtard
Let's hope, as Europe is my escape plan if they take over.

I don't think loosing God is intrinsically a good thing, but I would like God kept out of politics though. God should be for personal use, not used as a bludgeoning tool on others.

Well, I don't know about that.

Asking a Roman Catholic Politician to ignore their religious beliefs when considering Abortion would be like asking a Socialist to discard their political beliefs when they have to draw up Tax Laws or discuss privatisation of industry.

Surely one can argue against abortion without having to use the "it's against God" or "because God says so" defense. This goes for just about any topic.

Originally posted by Robtard
Surely one can argue against abortion without having to use the "it's against God" or "because God says so" defense. This goes for just about any topic.

Yes of course, but why should the Catholic be forced to leave his religious beliefs behind when the Socialist is allowed to continue to use his to justify his position (even if only to himself)

Socialism isn't a religion. But I can certainly understand your point. Perhaps the catholic should never have been elected in the first place.

Originally posted by Devil King
Socialism isn't a religion. But I can certainly understand your point. Perhaps the catholic should never have been elected in the first place.

What makes a religion the exception?

Why shouldn't Catholic's be elected? The people knew they were voting a Catholic...surely they should have accepted that included a religious faith and anticipated what his position would be on things like abortion?

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
Yes of course, but why should the Catholic be forced to leave his religious beliefs behind when the Socialist is allowed to continue to use his to justify his position (even if only to himself)

As noted, Socialism isn't a religion, and the Catholic politician in question certainly has some political association, he could even be a Socialist, besides being a Catholic.

Politics and religion, two separate entities, at least they should be.

Originally posted by Robtard
As noted, Socialism isn't a religion, and the Catholic politician in question certainly has some political association, he could even be a Socialist, besides being a Catholic.

Politics and religion, two separate entities, at least they should be.

Yet both are nothing more than beliefs...

So why can you say political beliefs are OK but religious ones aren't?