Can you handle the Truth?

Started by Grand_Moff_Gav432 pages

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
You may never choose to be a homosexual on a conscious level, but if you are attracted romantically and sexually to someone of the same sex, you must recognize that that desire is ungodly and sinful. I have desires that I must master just like anyone else. Like the apostle Paul stated in his first letter to the Corinthians,

[B]1 Corinthians 9:27
But I discipline my body and bring it into subjection , lest, when I have preached to others, I myself should become disqualified.

So, like the apostle Paul I discipline my body and keep it under subjection. The power to keep the body under subjection is found only in Jesus Christ. [/B]

For goodness sake, Im not gay...the point was I choose not to be...just as you choose not to be...apparently.

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
For goodness sake, Im not gay...the point was I choose not to be...just as you choose not to be...apparently.

Just wait until he see two guy banging each other. His sinful urges will overpower him while straight people will walk without so much as a woody.

Originally posted by chickenlover98
by that logic, your saying paul was gay, yet held off on his desires. 🙁

I never said that the apostle Paul was a homosexual. I just used his instance of self-discipline to illustrate the point that inappropriate desires or lusts must be brought under subjection to the will and Word of God. God's Word says one thing and your flesh says another. Which one are you going to listen to/obey? If I did everything that my unregenerate flesh wanted to do I would be a mess. But I don't allow my body or mind to run me. I tell my flesh when to get up in the morning, what to eat, what to look at (what not to look at), what to say (what not to say), etc. It is a battle, but I win everytime I aim to please my Heavenly Father and live for Him.

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
For goodness sake, Im not gay...the point was I choose not to be...just as you choose not to be...apparently.

I am not accusing you of being a homosexual I was just making a point.

Also, stop trying to set me up with the whole "choose" thing.

🙂

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
I never said that the apostle Paul was a homosexual. I just used his instance of self-discipline to illustrate the point that inappropriate desires or lusts must be brought under subjection to the will and Word of God. God's Word says one thing and your flesh says another. Which one are you going to listen to/obey? If I did everything that my unregenerate flesh wanted to do I would be a mess. But I don't allow my body or mind to run me. I tell my flesh when to get up in the morning, what to eat, what to look at (what not to look at), what to say (what not to say), etc. It is a battle, but I win everytime I aim to please my Heavenly Father and live for Him.

Are you saying you want to have sex with men?

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
I am not accusing you of being a homosexual I was just making a point.

Also, stop trying to set me up with the whole "choose" thing.

🙂

JIA can I share something with you?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
How is saying that it's "disgusting" very different from saying it's "sinful"?
i find it personally disgusting by my standards not by a 2000 year old god's (that may or may not exist) standards

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
I am not accusing you of being a homosexual I was just making a point.

Also, stop trying to set me up with the whole "choose" thing.

🙂

i completely disagree with this guy, but i do think the choose thing was a bit more of an error 😕

Originally posted by chickenlover98
i find it personally disgusting by my standards not by a 2000 year old god's (that may or may not exist) standards

That's not any less homophobic or any more justified.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
That's not any less homophobic or any more justified.

I would argue, its worse.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
I never said that the apostle Paul was a homosexual. I just used his instance of self-discipline to illustrate the point that inappropriate desires or lusts must be brought under subjection to the will and Word of God. God's Word says one thing and your flesh says another. Which one are you going to listen to/obey? If I did everything that my unregenerate flesh wanted to do I would be a mess. But I don't allow my body or mind to run me. I tell my flesh when to get up in the morning, what to eat, what to look at (what not to look at), what to say (what not to say), etc. It is a battle, but I win everytime I aim to please my Heavenly Father and live for Him.
im not going to listen to anyone but me, because in the end thats what it comes down to. if you've ever "seen god" you see what youe projected as god. in the end the only persons direction your following is your own. ive cut the middle man, i listen to me, not visions guided by my subconscious.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
That's not any less homophobic or any more justified.
no it isnt, and i fully accept that.

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
I would argue, its worse.
worse? at least im not crusading to have them slaughtered.

Originally posted by chickenlover98
worse? at least im not crusading to have them slaughtered.

Thats irrelevant.

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
Thats irrelevant.
why?

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
The reason I put my answer in this thread is because I sincerely do not want to offend you Goddess Kali so I wanted to test the waters first by asking the the question, "Why do people get offended when you tell them the truth as it pertains to the Bible?" However, I did want to respond to your query, and I have.

It's been 14+ months, 220+ pages and 4,500+ post and not a single person has been able to "handle your truth". You failed, JIA.

Originally posted by Robtard
It's been 14+ months, 220+ pages and 4,500+ post and not a single person has been able to "handle your truth". You failed, JIA.
jesus' message takes time itll hit soon. now all we have to is wait 😮‍💨

Originally posted by chickenlover98
jesus' message takes time itll hit soon. now all we have to is wait 😮‍💨

"God (Jesus) is an absentee landlord." -The Devil

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Denial about what? How do you know Jesus had nothing to do with changing her life? God did not create someone to be a homosexual (did you forget about Adam and Eve?) I do not deny that there are perhaps many people who have stopped doing a lot of things. But...the difference is that she was a homosexual for twenty years before she changed and she gave the credit to Jesus Christ--not will power, fear, or any other reason. I'm sure that she could have attributed her internal transformation to anything that she wanted to i.e. Buddha, Muhammed, Yoga, money, a promotion, a new love interest, New Age teaching, the devil, Scientology, etc.
You still are in denial and still a hateful and selfish person. As for the girl in the video which one did you watch? She said that it was 9/11 that inspired her to change her life, even after giving herself to Jesus she still had the desires and still was using drugs and watching porn, or did you miss this part? She knew that she needed to quit and it was her own determination that allowed her to do this not God, she said this over and over in the video but you as normal skip over that part because this makes you feel good that you can say that it is a choice. You keep denying that God made them this way and that you wish them all to suffer for all time, it would have been better if God created Adam and Steve then Steve wouldn't have eaten the apple.

If God put us on this planet as a test then his test sucks ass because way over 20% or the world is failing it and by your standards it is 95%. If this test is to determine the rest of your existence for all time and the punishment is to be thrown into a lake of fire and never EVER come back out you then the test would be a bit clearer. After all he is supposed to be love, what teacher have you ever had that gives test that most all of his students fail and is supposed to be loving? He is either a prick or the dumbest teacher, I think God fits the bill on both.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Just because you recognize that there are beautiful, handsome, good-looking, charismatic people in this world that does not mean that you are a homosexual. But when a person acts on that attraction in an inappropriate manner then it becomes sinful. For example, no man should pursue a romantic relationship with another person of the same sex and neither should women. This is an abomination according to the Bible.
All guys must be gay then, I have sex with myself 😆 So for you it is only the act and not the thought? According to the Bible, do you not have any thoughts of your own? You use this all the time as if stating that you have a different opinion but it goes against your precious "burn in hell for being what you are" Bible.

Just for the record,

Lets not blame Jesus for JIA.