Can you handle the Truth?

Started by Symmetric Chaos432 pages
Originally posted by willofthewisp
But didn't the Hindus believe that eventually they would stop reincarnating and reach a heavenly state of being? Tell me if that's not right.

Correct. The ultimate reward in Hinduism is to become part of Brahman and thus end the cycle of reincarnation that is caused by karma. In fact in Bhagavad Gita Krishna goes so far as to refer to karma as chains (which by my reading implies you can't get "good karma" merely cast off old karma). There are various suggestions about exactly what it is ranging from a state of bliss to a sort of universal soul made up of all the beings ever to attain it.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Correct. The ultimate reward in Hinduism is to become part of Brahman and thus end the cycle of reincarnation that is caused by karma. In fact in Bhagavad Gita Krishna goes so far as to refer to karma as chains (which by my reading implies you can't get "good karma" merely cast off old karma). There are various suggestions about exactly what it is ranging from a state of bliss to a sort of universal soul made up of all the beings ever to attain it.
sure sounds interesting, but far fetched to me /shrug

Originally posted by Da Pittman
God doesn't allow homosexuals into heaven so he throws them all into a lake of fire, so how is this love??? So do you hate people that are into incest or bestiality? Do you also love murders, lying, racism and people who steal?

Nice play on words again because for you being gay is not a part of that person but it is their lifestyle in your belief so you can say that God hates the lifestyle but not the person. You should be a politician with they way you can twist word so please define what the word "is" means. 😉 However being gay is who they are so if he hates the lifestyle he hates the person, please show me how it is not who they are and only a lifestyle.

No, God does not allow sinners into Heaven. But God does love sinners so He has made a way for their sins to be wiped out so that they can go to Heaven.

John 3:16
For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son , that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.

Romans 5:8
But God demonstrates His own love toward us , in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.

No, I don't hate anyone. I can disapprove of someone's behavior, conduct, lifestyle, mindset, and philosophy without hating that person.

Originally posted by Da Pittman
God doesn't allow homosexuals into heaven so he throws them all into a lake of fire, so how is this love??? So do you hate people that are into incest or bestiality? Do you also love murders, lying, racism and people who steal?

Nice play on words again because for you being gay is not a part of that person but it is their lifestyle in your belief so you can say that God hates the lifestyle but not the person. You should be a politician with they way you can twist word so please define what the word "is" means. 😉 However being gay is who they are so if he hates the lifestyle he hates the person, please show me how it is not who they are and only a lifestyle.

I believe that homosexuality is a choice not an orientation. Check out this great testimony.

YouTube video

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
I believe that homosexuality is a choice not an orientation. Check out this great testimony.

YouTube video

Medical evidence and psychological evidence would disagree with you.

Originally posted by Da Pittman
Medical evidence and psychological evidence would disagree with you.

No such animal.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
No such animal.

actually, 1500 animals

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
No such animal.
Simply you are just in denial but that is nothing new. Jesus had nothing to do with her changing her life, it was the fear of death and the unknown that did it. It was 9/11 that changed her not Jesus and her fear not some loving god or intervention. I could show you case after case, testimonial after testimonial, medical report after another but that doesn't change the fact that you are so hard headed and your blind faith and wishing others to suffer for all time for being who and what God created them to be. What about all of the people that stopped doing drugs and porn that do not believe in Jesus and your God? What about all the others that changed their life and believe in another religion?

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
No such animal.

Did you just say you don't believe science exists?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Did you just say you don't believe science exists?

No, he said he wanted all homosexuals to be buried deep in the ground so that he could dance on the graves as their suffocate.

He then indicated his desire to sacrifice a Nun to Satan so that he can be given Satan's strength to continue disbelieving in Climate Change and Evolution.

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
No, he said he wanted all homosexuals to be buried deep in the ground so that he could dance on the graves as their suffocate.

He then indicated his desire to sacrifice a Nun to Satan so that he can be given Satan's strength to continue disbelieving in Climate Change and Evolution.

Well if that's all . . .

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Did you just say you don't believe science exists?

No, science confirms the Bible. What I stated was that there is no medical or scientific evidence that proves that homosexuality is an orientation instead of a choice.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
No, science confirms the Bible. What I stated was that there is no medical or scientific evidence that proves that homosexuality is an orientation instead of a choice.

Are you repressing it?

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
What I stated was that there is no medical or scientific evidence that proves that homosexuality is an orientation instead of a choice.

Enough to make a case beyond any reasonable doubt.

Originally posted by Da Pittman
Simply you are just in denial but that is nothing new. Jesus had nothing to do with her changing her life, it was the fear of death and the unknown that did it. It was 9/11 that changed her not Jesus and her fear not some loving god or intervention. I could show you case after case, testimonial after testimonial, medical report after another but that doesn't change the fact that you are so hard headed and your blind faith and wishing others to suffer for all time for being who and what God created them to be. What about all of the people that stopped doing drugs and porn that do not believe in Jesus and your God? What about all the others that changed their life and believe in another religion?

Denial about what? How do you know Jesus had nothing to do with changing her life? God did not create someone to be a homosexual (did you forget about Adam and Eve?) I do not deny that there are perhaps many people who have stopped doing a lot of things. But...the difference is that she was a homosexual for twenty years before she changed and she gave the credit to Jesus Christ--not will power, fear, or any other reason. I'm sure that she could have attributed her internal transformation to anything that she wanted to i.e. Buddha, Muhammed, Yoga, money, a promotion, a new love interest, New Age teaching, the devil, Scientology, etc.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
No, science confirms the Bible. What I stated was that there is no medical or scientific evidence that proves that homosexuality is an orientation instead of a choice.

*cough* God

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
Are you repressing it?

Repressing what? There's no evidence.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Enough to make a case beyond any reasonable doubt.

No because this is not a court of law.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Repressing what? There's no evidence.

I never choose to be gay...

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
I never choose to be gay...

You may have on a subconscious level.