Originally posted by Da Pittman
Just to add, I could say that Baba Yaga saved me from being gay, does that make it any better for you? Listen to the first 33 seconds again, it was 9/11 that made her want to change her life and go to God. "On this day" is what she says in the first 30 seconds, so this is the pivotal moment in her life. Did God kill thousands of people to make her not be gay anymore? She also said gay 42 times, does that mean she is still gay? 😱
In Russian folklore Baba Yaga is a cannabilistic witch. If you want to believe that it saved you from being gay that is your prerogative.
Before she said anything about 9/11 she stated that she was gay for almost 20 years before eternity was slapped in her face on September 11th. She said did not say anything about 9/11 making her want to change her life. She admitted that that day was a horrific day but she did not say anything about it making her want to change her life or go on to God (you inserted all of that verbage). So, eternity was slapped in her face on September 11th (these were her own words). Perhaps, for the first time in her life she thought about life after death seriously (my words). She could have turned to anything or anyone for recourse. She could have smoked more marijuana, drank more alcohol, or watched more porn. In fact, she could have turned to Buddhism, Hinduism, Islam, satanism, a psychiatrist, scientology, her father, mother, siblings, friends, her job (i.e. she could have worked more hours), prescriptions, t.v., yoga, New Age, the police, the FBI or any other person, group, or thing. But you know what: she didn't. She said that she asked Jesus Christ to do whatever He needed to do to get her out of the lifestyle that she was in (these are her words verbatim). Now...why on God's green earth would she skip over all of the aforementioned avenues for help? This woman was living a happy, fulfilled, homosexual lifestyle, complete with drugs and yet for some strange reason she wanted out of that lifestyle. The only Person that she could think of to save her from her pleasurable life of sin was Jesus Christ.? I think I know why: maybe she is delusional, confused, brainwashed, or just plain dumb.
What say you?
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive😆 Are you on LSD, I have a big stick for you too. What about all the people that went to another religion, why did attendance at churches go up after 9/11? All of these things are do normally to a traumatic event, what about all the people that turned away from God because of 9/11, why don't you show those testimonies? You are only right about one thing in this post is that it was 9/11 that took to make a change in her life as I have said all along and not Jesus. It was 9/11 that got her thinking about what may happen when you die and for her she turned to Jesus, others turned to other forms of religion and others turned away from their religion because they could not understand how a caring god could allow something like that to happen. You post does not show anything but a story of how someone changed their life because of a traumatic event which happens millions of times a day.
In Russian folklore Baba Yaga is a cannabilistic witch. If you want to believe that it saved you from being gay that is your prerogative.Before she said anything about 9/11 she stated that she was gay for almost 20 years before eternity was slapped in her face on September 11th. She said did not say anything about 9/11 making her want to change her life. She admitted that that day was a horrific day but she did not say anything about it making her want to change her life or go on to God (you inserted all of that verbage). So, eternity was slapped in her face on September 11th (these were her own words). Perhaps, for the first time in her life she thought about life after death seriously (my words). She could have turned to anything or anyone for recourse. She could have smoked more marijuana, drank more alcohol, or watched more porn. In fact, she could have turned to Buddhism, Hinduism, Islam, satanism, a psychiatrist, scientology, her father, mother, siblings, friends, her job (i.e. she could have worked more hours), prescriptions, t.v., yoga, New Age, the police, the FBI or any other person, group, or thing. But you know what: she didn't. She said that she asked Jesus Christ to do whatever He needed to do to get her out of the lifestyle that she was in (these are her words verbatim). Now...why on God's green earth would she skip over all of the aforementioned avenues for help? This woman was living a happy, fulfilled, homosexual lifestyle, complete with drugs and yet for some strange reason she wanted out of that lifestyle. The only Person that she could think of to save her from her pleasurable life of sin was Jesus Christ.? I think I know why: maybe she is delusional, confused, brainwashed, or just plain dumb.
What say you?
Now are some people out there being gay because they think it is cool or they like the lifestyle I’m sure there are and I know of people that are, are their ones that would love to be straight and not be gay because of people like you and the torture that you put them through and I know some of them as well. You are still a selfish person that has so much hatred in your heart and vindictiveness beyond belief, you are preaching love and virtue but practice none of in your own life. I pity you and your selfishness and ask what you have done to make the world better. You are a pathetic little man, and I use the term man very loosely.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
[To stop being gay] she could have turned to Buddhism, Hinduism, Islam, satanism, a psychiatrist, scientology, her father, mother, siblings, friends, her job (i.e. she could have worked more hours), prescriptions, t.v., yoga, New Age, the police, the FBI or any other person, group, or thing.
Whatever you're on I'd like some.
Originally posted by Da Pittman
😆 Are you on LSD, I have a big stick for you too. What about all the people that went to another religion, why did attendance at churches go up after 9/11? All of these things are do normally to a traumatic event, what about all the people that turned away from God because of 9/11, why don't you show those testimonies? You are only right about one thing in this post is that it was 9/11 that took to make a change in her life as I have said all along and not Jesus. It was 9/11 that got her thinking about what may happen when you die and for her she turned to Jesus, others turned to other forms of religion and others turned away from their religion because they could not understand how a caring god could allow something like that to happen. You post does not show anything but a story of how someone changed their life because of a traumatic event which happens millions of times a day.Now are some people out there being gay because they think it is cool or they like the lifestyle I’m sure there are and I know of people that are, are their ones that would love to be straight and not be gay because of people like you and the torture that you put them through and I know some of them as well. You are still a selfish person that has so much hatred in your heart and vindictiveness beyond belief, you are preaching love and virtue but practice none of in your own life. I pity you and your selfishness and ask what you have done to make the world better. You are a pathetic little man, and I use the term man very loosely.
Nope, I am not on LSD. I have never used drugs--not even once.
But we are not talking about all of the other people, only one woman is under discussion. I firmly believe that I have demonstrated that her conversion came about as a direct result of Jesus Christ. Hey, since Jesus delivered her from a lifestyle of homosexuality, drugs, and porn (as she powerfully testifies), He will do the same for anyone else.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
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Seems she needed a crutch to do what she felt (at the moment) was right; the symbol of Jesus happened to be that crutch. It in no way implies that Jesus-God did something to change her directly, except simply be a concept. Different crutches for different people, silly for you to assume divine intervention simply because she said "Jesus".
It's the double-standard nonsense seen often in religion:
Bus full of school children falls off a cliff and no one dies, Jesus-God had a direct hand in it.
Bus full of school children falls off a cliff and everyone dies, sometimes bad things just happen, that's life.
Originally posted by JesusIsAliveYou are an F'n retard with that logic, so if I can treat one person’s headache with aspirin then I can cure everyone’s headache with aspirin. Does this really seem logical to you??? You are using this person to talk about that this is proof that gays can change, so yes we are talking about everyone else you moron and get it through your thick, selfish and hateful skull of yours. It is sad that you think the testimony of one persons change constitutes proof that homosexuals are all the same, it is the most bigot’s thing I have heard in a long time.
Nope, I am not on LSD. I have never used drugs--not even once.But we are not talking about all of the other people, only one woman is under discussion. I firmly believe that I have demonstrated that her conversion came about as a direct result of Jesus Christ. Hey, since Jesus delivered her from a lifestyle of homosexuality, drugs, and porn (as she powerfully testifies), He will do the same for anyone else.
Yes you have used drugs, I can guarantee it you lying bastard.
Originally posted by Robtard
Seems she needed a crutch to do what she felt (at the moment) was right; the symbol of Jesus happened to be that crutch. It in no way implies that Jesus-God did something to change her directly, except simply be a concept. Different crutches for different people, silly for you to assume divine intervention simply because she said "Jesus".It's the double-standard nonsense seen often in religion:
Bus full of school children falls off a cliff and no one dies, Jesus-God had a direct hand in it.
Bus full of school children falls off a cliff and everyone dies, sometimes bad things just happen, that's life.
Jesus is not a symbol He is a Person. I believe that Jesus did exactly what she affirms that He did. It all comes down to what one believes. You believe that Jesus did not change her and she and I believe that He did.
Originally posted by JesusIsAliveYou are wrong yet again, you need to go back to school.
Jesus is not a symbol He is a Person. I believe that Jesus did exactly what she affirms that He did. It all comes down to what one believes. You believe that Jesus did not change her and she and I believe that He did.
Originally posted by Da Pittman
You are an F'n retard with that logic, so if I can treat one person’s headache with aspirin then I can cure everyone’s headache with aspirin. Does this really seem logical to you??? You are using this person to talk about that this is proof that gays can change, so yes we are talking about everyone else you moron and get it through your thick, selfish and hateful skull of yours. It is sad that you think the testimony of one persons change constitutes proof that homosexuals are all the same, it is the most bigot’s thing I have heard in a long time.Yes you have used drugs, I can guarantee it you lying bastard.
Has it ever occurred to you that you have repeatedly accused me of being hateful and yet I have never called you by any name other than your username. You have referred to me as a moron, lying bastard, F'n retard, etc. I have consistently treated you with respect that you didn't deserve, but you believe that I am the hateful one? Wow. If you cannot see the contradiction in your accusations against me then perhaps you never will.
Anyhoo, I do not believe that homosexuals are born that way or that their lifestyle is an orientation. Again, there is no evidence to support this long-held belief. But, before you accuse me of hating the homosexual community because I believe that their lifestyle and mindset is a matter of their will not heredity, perhaps you should calm down and ponder what I have just written. I can disagree with you without hating you. I disagree with the homosexual community, but I do not hate them--and neither does God.
The woman in the video is free to believe what she chooses just like you and me. You believe one thing and she believes something else, but all that matters is what she believes--and she believes in Jesus Christ. You choose not to believe in Jesus Christ. I believe that Jesus set her free from homosexuality and that He is All-powerful, ready, and willing to do the same for all homosexuals and anyone who is in bondage to anything regardless of what it is. Jesus is able to save to the uttermost those who come to God through Him, since He always lives to make intercession for them.
Originally posted by JesusIsAliveYou have called me a liar, sinner and evil with no moral values and have compared me to a pedophile and bestiality so I’m returning the favor. I call you these things because you can’t handle your own truth that you are a selfish person that is very hateful which I have shown you over and over as well as others on this site. You are a liar that you have never taken drugs and I can guarantee that you have, you also are rude and arrogant in your responses to me and I have asked you why you have ignored Shakey just for bringing up your movie and you dodged the question. Why is he not worth your time to try and “save” but I am???
Has it ever occurred to you that you have repeatedly accused me of being hateful and yet I have never called you by any name other than your username. You have referred to me as a moron, lying bastard, F'n retard, etc. I have consistently treated you with respect that you didn't deserve, but you believe that I am the hateful one? Wow. If you cannot see the contradiction in your accusations against me then perhaps you never will.Anyhoo, I do not believe that homosexuals are born that way or that their lifestyle is an orientation. Again, there is no evidence to support this long-held belief. But, before you accuse me of hating the homosexual community because I believe that their lifestyle and mindset is a matter of their will not heredity, perhaps you should calm down and ponder what I have just written. I can disagree with you without hating you. I disagree with the homosexual community, but I do not hate them--and neither does God.
The woman in the video is free to believe what she chooses just like you and me. You believe one thing and she believes something else, but all that matters is what she believes--and she believes in Jesus Christ. You choose not to believe in Jesus Christ. I believe that Jesus set her free from homosexuality and that He is All-powerful, ready, and willing to do the same for all homosexuals and anyone who is in bondage to anything regardless of what it is. Jesus is able to save to the uttermost those who come to God through Him, since He always lives to make intercession for them.
Yes the woman is free to believe what she wants as you are and I am however I do not force my beliefs onto you as you are trying to do to us. You offer things as fact not as your opinion and this is a very different thing, if you said all along that this is YOUR opinion then it would be different but you do not. You say that “according to the Bible” and you say that everything in the Bible is fact. You do not have your own opinions and we all tire of hearing the Bible version and not yours but you can not have your own view because that would be against the Bible’s version and that would be shattering your belief.
I do ask why are you trying so hard to convert me? You lack the compassion and knowledge to convert any atheist much less me.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Nope, I am not on LSD. I have never used drugs--not even once.But we are not talking about all of the other people, only one woman is under discussion. I firmly believe that I have demonstrated that her conversion came about as a direct result of Jesus Christ. Hey, since Jesus delivered her from a lifestyle of homosexuality, drugs, and porn (as she powerfully testifies), He will do the same for anyone else.
Not true. When I was a Christian, I saw a lot of people in the church use and sell drugs. I saw a lot of evil people. Sure there were good people, but they were few and far between. Now that was my experience and not all churches are like the one I was raised in. However, they sounded a lot like how you sound to me. If what I saw was Jesus the Christ, then it will not take long for that woman to return to drugs and homosexuality.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Not true. When I was a Christian, I saw a lot of people in the church use and sell drugs. I saw a lot of evil people. Sure there were good people, but they were few and far between. Now that was my experience and not all churches are like the one I was raised in. However, they sounded a lot like how you sound to me. If what I saw was Jesus the Christ, then it will not take long for that woman to return to drugs and homosexuality.
I'm sure you must have some basis for using one church out of innumerably many to demonize an entire faith.
Originally posted by ShakyamunisonSo how does it feel to be JIA (drug free) since Apr 14th, 2008 😆
Not true. When I was a Christian, I saw a lot of people in the church use and sell drugs. I saw a lot of evil people. Sure there were good people, but they were few and far between. Now that was my experience and not all churches are like the one I was raised in. However, they sounded a lot like how you sound to me. If what I saw was Jesus the Christ, then it will not take long for that woman to return to drugs and homosexuality.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
JIA assumes the existance of a mystical entity that can alter people's behaviors if they genuinely want it to. I think it's a bit eccentric but it hardly seems malicious.
...and I was saying that it was false and people who change over night rarely change for long.