Can you handle the Truth?

Originally posted by Da Pittman
OK, it comes down to this. Why doesn’t God just show himself? Why does he require you to believe in him through “faith” then not just show him self? This would not be against anything he has taught, you still have the choice to believe or follow his teaching but at least you have the knowledge that he does exist. He keeps his followers “dumb” on purpose which allows the Devil to do his work, so why wouldn’t he just show him self. What harm is there in the fact that all of his creation knows that he exists?

The absolute knowledge that there is a supreme being would essentially end any freedom of through (illusory or not) because it would mean that there is an objective answer to any and all questions. Also, a lot of people are total dicks and God probably doesn't want to bother with them. Good work guys 😬

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Also, a lot of people are total dicks and God probably doesn't want to bother with them. Good work guys 😬

Originally posted by Da Pittman
OK, it comes down to this. Why doesn’t God just show himself? Why does he require you to believe in him through “faith” then not just show him self? This would not be against anything he has taught, you still have the choice to believe or follow his teaching but at least you have the knowledge that he does exist. He keeps his followers “dumb” on purpose which allows the Devil to do his work, so why wouldn’t he just show him self. What harm is there in the fact that all of his creation knows that he exists?

Do you think that if god did indeed show himself to everyone, that atheists/seculars like yourself would become grovelling and pious, or would you just say "ok, he's real." and treat it like the discovery of a new animal and then go about your life as if nothing happened?

So taking that question into account, I think faith is a vital thing when wondering why god does what he does (assuming he exists).

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Do you think that if god did indeed show himself to everyone, that atheists/seculars like yourself would become grovelling and pious, or would you just say "ok, he's real." and treat it like the discovery of a new animal and then go about your life as if nothing happened?

So taking that question into account, I think faith is a vital thing when wondering why god does what he does (assuming he exists).

The same could be said to people of faith if shown that their God doesn’t exist, some would still believe and others would change, some would go nuts and some wouldn’t care.

Faith by its self is one thing, but to use it as the deciding factor to “internal damnation and suffering” is another. Why would is be an issue that if God showed up and said “Hey I created you” would be an issue? How does this go against his teachings and the belief in Free Will, people will still make their own choices but at least they can be given the correct information. If God can’t stopped the Devil then how is a lowly human supposed to weed though all the Devils lies and figure out what is the truth?

Originally posted by Da Pittman
I’m not sure what you getting at, but I will go ahead and answer you question. First of all if he does show up me and I would assume that most Atheists would that their belief was wrong and would change faith if the God of the Bible is real. Some would be the groveling and pious idiots that you spoke of, others would want to know more about God, others would want to know what the current religion has gotten wrong about God and wish to worship him in the correct manner and I would even assume that some would hate him even more than before.

The same could be said to people of faith if shown that their God doesn’t exist, some would still believe and others would change, some would go nuts and some wouldn’t care.

Faith by its self is one thing, but to use it as the deciding factor to “internal damnation and suffering” is another. Why would is be an issue that if God showed up and said “Hey I created you” would be an issue? How does this go against his teachings and the belief in Free Will, people will still make their own choices but at least they can be given the correct information. If God can’t stopped the Devil then how is a lowly human supposed to weed though all the Devils lies and figure out what is the truth?

Originally posted by MightyCelestial
I'd like to also add,
that if God did show up, it wouldn't necessarily mean that it would the Bible to be correct.
Within this possibility of Him revealing Himself, there also exists the possibility that He'd say that we're effed up about the whole Bible thing.

I'd like to also add,
that if god did show up, "he" would have a lot to explain. 😉

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I'd like to also add,
that if god did show up, "he" would have a lot to explain. 😉

"Why do bad things happen to good pe-- aaaargha!?"

"Any other questions?"

No one can actually handle the Truth.
That's why the Creator made it relative.
So that no one man will ever be able to have a monopoly over it (the Truth).

Originally posted by MightyCelestial
No one can actually handle the Truth.
That's why the Creator made it relative.
So that no one man will ever be able to have a monopoly over it (the Truth).

Now that is an example of not having a handle on the truth. 😂

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Now that is an example of not having a handle on the truth. 😂

I dunno, I thought it was quite profound.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Now that is an example of not having a handle on the truth. 😂

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I'd like to also add,
that if god did show up, "he" would have a lot to explain. 😉

Originally posted by MightyCelestial
I'd like to also add,
that if God did show up, it wouldn't necessarily mean that it would the Bible to be correct.
Within this possibility of Him revealing Himself, there also exists the possibility that He'd say that we're effed up about the whole Bible thing.

Originally posted by Da Pittman
Hmmmmm I thought I said that 😉

I guess he just ignores what you like most people...skiming FTW

Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
I dunno, I thought it was quite profound.

I was just teasing. 😉

Originally posted by MightyCelestial
No one can actually handle the Truth.
That's why the Creator made it relative.
So that no one man will ever be able to have a monopoly over it (the Truth).

Truth is a Person. Jesus Christ said and I quote,

"I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life...."

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Truth is a Person. Jesus Christ said and I quote,

"I am the Way, the [B]Truth, and the Life...." [/B]

He is not a normal man.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Truth is a Person. Jesus Christ said and I quote,

"I am the Way, the [B]Truth, and the Life...." [/B]

So if Jesus is a "Person" which would mean that he is "human" or "human like" that contradicts what you have said before, as you have said Jesus is God (The Trinity) when is the last time 3 people made a “person”?

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Truth is a Person. Jesus Christ said and I quote,

"I am the Way, the [B]Truth, and the Life...." [/B]

he was lying.

Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
He is not a normal man.

You shouldn't say that about JIA. 😛