Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
That is not what I wrote. The Bible does not provide the details in scientific, testable, observable, academic, logical, or rational sense about how or why God exists.I believe because I choose to believe. It is as though the moment I chose to step out and believe God, the Bible, etc., that God gave me faith to sustain me until I am able to see God for myself. Sound strange?
Technically, God fits the definition of a paradox because He has no father or mother, does not need any food or shelter, and is not dependent on anyone or anything for His continued existence. God (according to the Scriptures) is all-powerful (yet we have no record of how or what the source of His power is), all-knowing (again we have no record of how or why this is possible. How do you know all having never studied?), all-present (God sees all and is everywhere simultaneously but how?). These are questions that perhaps have no natural, human answers, but can only be gained through revelation. The Bible is a collection of sixty-six books, written by forty different authors over a period of 1,600 years, in a number of different geographical areas, and yet maintains remarkable continuity, cohesion, and unity of theme. To many the Bible is a book of revealed knowledge because much of it could not be known except God revealed it (see the book of Genesis). Actually, God is circular reasoning personified because the Bible states that He exists, and then states that creation (i.e. what we call nature) is evidence of His existence, wisdom, and power.
Isn't it interesting that a circle has no beginning or end, neither does God.
so circular logic is your defense? interesting i believe in god there for i dont need explaination on how things work. sounds reasonable.
only problem i see is when you decide to question what you dont know or understand in science.
Originally posted by Robtard
Not by itself, no, chisel-chest.
Why thank you. I do try to keep in shape.
Originally posted by Robtard
I stated it's used as a means of persuasion, which Evolution theory does not have.
You made "having an agenda" part of being "a religion". I simply corrected you on that.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
That is not what I wrote. The Bible does not provide the details in scientific, testable, observable, academic, logical, or rational sense about how or why God exists.
That is a healthy attitude.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Technically, God fits the definition of a paradox because He has no father or mother, does not need any food or shelter, and is not dependent on anyone or anything for His continued existence.
That's not paradoxical.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
To many the Bible is a book of revealed knowledge because much of it could not be known except God revealed it (see the book of Genesis). Actually, God is circular reasoning personified because the Bible states that He exists, and then states that creation (i.e. what we call nature) is evidence of His existence, wisdom, and power.Isn't it interesting that a circle has no beginning or end, neither does God.
Are you admitting that the only argument you have is circular logic?
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
so circular logic is your defense? interesting i believe in god there for i dont need explaination on how things work. sounds reasonable.only problem i see is when you decide to question what you dont know or understand in science.
Wild Shadow, maybe you will not retreat from explaining cambrian explosion and how it refutes evolutionary theory.
What say you?
http://www.learnthebible.org/creation_science_cambrian_explosion_disproves_evolution.htm
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Wild Shadow, maybe you will not retreat from explaining cambrian explosion and how it refutes evolutionary theory.What say you?
http://www.learnthebible.org/creation_science_cambrian_explosion_disproves_evolution.htm
You cannot use the Cambrian explosion unless you reject creationism first.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
That is a healthy attitude.That's not paradoxical.
Are you admitting that the only argument you have is circular logic?
Faith is very healthy for the heart and soul.
I find God (and/or His existence) paradoxical because I am accustomed to all life having some kind of ancestor. But God lives i.e exists (according to the Bible) yet He has no ancestor. Sounds like a paradox to me.
I don't really have an argument just what I believe to be Truth. Truth is not subject to debate, logic, reason, or any such circumstance because it is absolute.
Symmetric Chaos, maybe you will not retreat from explaining cambrian explosion and how it refutes evolutionary theory.
What say you?
http://www.learnthebible.org/creation_science_cambrian_explosion_disproves_evolution.htm
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Wild Shadow, maybe you will not retreat from explaining cambrian explosion and how it refutes evolutionary theory.What say you?
http://www.learnthebible.org/creation_science_cambrian_explosion_disproves_evolution.htm
its very easy we start with critical thinking and the fossil records. why is their no evidence? what is it we see in the fossel records: answer: shells hard boney minerals. hmm.. conclusion the reason their is no other evidence of an evolutionary link could be their was not enough remains to cause one or it did not possess hard shells to be preserve.. perhaps if we can look deeper we may find very few and rare animals that were more carefully preserved showing a link to the spontanious appearance of some of these creatures..
oh wait here we go an article about just that and guess what its more recent and not some outdated u tube clip....
science is always changing and growing may i even say "evolving."
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2001/07/0719_crustacean.html
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
You accept that the Earth is millions of years old then?
The term Creationism is a very all-encompassing term that includes but is not limited to young earth creationism. I personally do not subscribe to the long-held belief that the earth is billions or even millions of years old. I wholeheartedly endorse the Biblical age of the earth.
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
its very easy we start with critical thinking and the fossil records. why is their no evidence? what is it we see in the fossel records: answer: shells hard boney minerals. hmm.. conclusion the reason their is no other evidence of an evolutionary link could be their was not enough remains to cause one or it did not possess hard shells to be preserve.. perhaps if we can look deeper we may find very few and rare animals that were more carefully preserved showing a link to the spontanious appearance of some of these creatures..oh wait here we go an article about just that and guess what its more recent and not some outdated u tube clip....
science is always changing and growing may i even say "evolving."
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2001/07/0719_crustacean.html
I think that your article is outdated compared to this one:
okay i'll have to continue this tomorrow, the point that i made has yet to be refuted seeing as the article i showed shows earlier fossilized remains of creatures that can be linked to some of the creatures during the cambrian explosion episode/timeframe.. my reasoning as well as those in the article were reasonable and logical. the only reason i used that article was that i didnt want to surf the net longer then i had to.
now if you will excuse me i need to shave bathe and get ready to for a hedonist night of sex drugs and rock and roll you know the usual debaucherery that religions seem to be against.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
[B]Cambrian Explosion Destroys Evolution!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=855L4WP26zA&feature=related [/B]
That's it, the 'there isn't a fossil showing every possible change and connection between species' argument?
Here's a fun fact which dick-slaps that video, believe it or not, the fossil record we have isn't a 'complete fossil record', as the formation of a fossil is very rare. If everything that died turned into a viable fossil, we'd litterally be swimming in them. The Cambrian Explosion also wasn't a sudden 'poof' and we had diversity all about, as that video seemed to imply, it took well over 30 million years.
Try again?
what i dont understand, is why religious ppl feel the need to point out what science has yet to understand or proof and claim that, "that" is proof of gods existence. i hate to say this but it is the same ignorant positions that has been used by churches and religious zealots in the dark ages.
does anybody know how many scientific discoveries were made, that religion claimed was prove of god until it was refuted with an actual scientific explainations..
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
[B]Questioning evolution theory THIS IS INCREDIBLEhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1iCjKWzeEE&feature=related [/B]
I can post yootoobs as well