Can you handle the Truth?

Started by Shakyamunison432 pages

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Do I have you on the run now?

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I don't know what you mean. If you have the right to believe that a god created the universe, then why can't I believe that a group of unicorns did it?

What you are doing is looking for that place were we admit that no one knows. You then insert your god at that point. You don't realize how much of a disservice you do to your beliefs.

If a god created the universe, then it would be obvious, and not the other way around.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Before you ask me questions how about you respond to all the things I was in the process of proving you wrong about?

Why not simply answer the question?

This question is the ultimate one which will bring all of this controversy to an end.

Now, what caused the singularity to expand?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I don't know what you mean. If you have the right to believe that a god created the universe, then why can't I believe that a group of unicorns did it?

What you are doing is looking for that place were we admit that no one knows. You then insert your god at that point. You don't realize how much of a disservice you do to your beliefs.

If a god created the universe, then it would be obvious, and not the other way around.

I was being facetious.

That's not true that no one knows. Just because you might not know does not mean that no one knows. You are making an assumption there.

Just because it is obvious that God created the universe does not means that it is obvious to you.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
I was being facetious.

That's not true that no one knows. Just because you might not know does not mean that no one knows. You are making an assumption there.

Just because it is obvious that God created the universe does not means that it is obvious to you.

Don't give me this hidden information bull shit. I used to be a Christian, remember. It's nothing but a lie.

When you look at the Earth, it is like looking at a cross section of a tree. It tells a story about the age of the Earth, and the story it tells is that the Earth is very old. Why would god lie to us? I think it is more likely that the Earth is very old, and that humans who wrote the bible lied to us.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
When you look at the Earth, it is like looking at a cross section of a tree. It tells a story about the age of the Earth, and the story it tells is that the Earth is very old. Why would god lie to us? I think it is more likely that the Earth is very old, and that humans who wrote the bible lied to us.

So you don't know what caused the singularity to expand?

You don't know what caused the big bang either?

One and the same?

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
So you don't know what caused the singularity to expand?

You don't know what caused the big bang either?

One and the same?

No, it was the blue unicorn that caused the big bang, and the yellow unicorn that started the singularity to expand. I already told you this. 🙄

"We don't know what happened, ergo Goddidit!"

So old and tired, old and tired...

Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
"We don't know what happened, ergo Goddidit!"

So old and tired, old and tired...

There even a specific name for it in logic: "Gods In The Gaps" or "God Of The Gaps"

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Why not simply answer the question?

This question is the ultimate one which will bring all of this controversy to an end.

Now, what caused the singularity to expand?


You answer first. I will not allow you to change the subject again. You always do that when you can't keep up with my arguments.

Stop arguing with him Shaky. He has no right to try and change the topic of argument without bringing the original topic to a close.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Stop arguing with him Shaky. He has no right to try and change the topic of argument without bringing the original topic to a close.

Ya, but it is his thread, and I have no idea what the topic is, in the first place. I think it is allusive by nature.

Elusive because he changes it whenever the hell he wants to.

JIA, how about we get back to Bacteria who don't need air? Or Thomas Jefferson's religion? Or any of the other countless topics I owned you on only for you to ignore me and change the subject?

Originally posted by King Kandy
You answer first. I will not allow you to change the subject again. You always do that when you can't keep up with my arguments.

It's called cutting to the chase.

If you answer that one question then it will end the discussion definitively. I thought that is what you want. Tell you what...you answer this one question then I will go back and answer whatever you want me to.

Now, what caused the singularity that you speak of to expand into this orderly universe that is governed by precise laws and constants?

This universe is so fine-tuned that it is as though it was prepared just for life, like it knew we were coming. Everything conducive for life to exist and be sustained has been provided.

What started the expansion of the singularity and what sustained and continued its expansion? How in the world did all of the steps happen in the right order to form stars, planets, and complex, organic life.

How did all of this so-called randomness create the mind/consciousness?

Most importantly...why did any of this that I mentioned happen?

There's no reason for us to exist so why do we exist?

Why didn't the singularity just remain a singularity?

I see a lot of cursing in the last few posts.

I wonder why?

Can you handle the Truth?

I think they can, and that its just that you aren't speaking it.

You seem the sort of chap who cant handle the truth.

And your seeming obstinate, and brainwashed nature that allows you to reject any other way of looking at things than your own, is what turns people off in debate.

And theres nothing wrong with cursing, and you are certainly nobody to berate anyone here for it.

Can you handle expressive language....? Sounds like 'no'.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
It's called cutting to the chase.

If you answer that one question then it will end the discussion definitively. I thought that is what you want. Tell you what...you answer this one question then I will go back and answer whatever you want me to.

Now, what caused the singularity that you speak of to expand into this orderly universe that is governed by precise laws and constants?

This universe is so fine-tuned that it is as though it was prepared just for life, like it knew we were coming. Everything conducive for life to exist and be sustained has been provided.

What started the expansion of the singularity and what sustained and continued its expansion? How in the world did all of the steps happen in the right order to form stars, planets, and complex, organic life.

How did all of this so-called randomness create the mind/consciousness?

Most importantly...why did any of this that I mentioned happen?

There's no reason for us to exist so why do we exist?

Why didn't the singularity just remain a singularity?


Nope, it's called changing the subject. You want me to go back 20 pages or so, I bet you've changed the subject no less than seven times. That's cowardly debating. I'm taking a stand now by refusing to play your game and argue a new subject. Either finish addressing the issues we were in the middle of discussing, or this conversation is over.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
...How did all of this so-called randomness create the mind/consciousness?...[/COLOR]

Randomness? What randomness? The universe has Karma, and this Karma is what led to us here now.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
I see a lot of cursing in the last few posts.

I wonder why?

Can you handle the Truth?

I could not find any cursing. Are you talking about when I said bull shit? 😕 Bull shit is not cursing.

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Bull shit is something that comes out of the end of a bull. It smells bad, and everybody knows what it is. Kind of like that hidden information belief you always talk about. I was simply calling it what it is; bull shit.

HOW ARE YOU ALL ?

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I WILL REPLY SOON ..