Fantastic Four vs.

Started by Charlotte DeBel3 pages

FF might actually win, but they don't win easy battle and they have to fight smart and defeating Ivy without prep is not easy task for them (even with Reed Richard's tactical and scientific genius)...
Medusa and Clayface aren't big factors there (although I can see Clayface keeping Thing busy for a while, but Medusa's malleable hair is a bit laughable). Reed doesn't have to participate in the fight- he may coordinate the team's action while being protected by his wife's forcefield.
Then... Cannonball (I feel tempted to write Cannonballs) vs Torch- battle of two characrets I don't like, but Sam has more possibilities to KO Jonny than vise versa...

As for complexbrother's setting... I agree on Clayface and Medusa being beaten by Torch and Reed, but...Thing has to catch Cannonball first and he's not fast enough for doing that (unlike Colossus, who's very fast and agile for a brick).
Separating Ivy's body won't work, because Sue's forcefields are unable to isolate her mind from contact with the Earth's biosphere...

Ivy and Cannonball are the last standing ones for their teams, and Ivy has everything to win this. Unless prep is involved and Reed invents some plot device gadget to isolate Ivy's mind from contact fith biosphere like Lutor(if i'm not mistaken) did to Swamp Thing. I'm not sure whether Sue's forcefield would be enough for that...

Ivy ftw.

Reed brings a weedwhacker and the fights over 😖hifty:

I was thinking it would be the Thing vs. Medusa and Clayface vs. Mr. Fantastic.

Anyway, since Poison Ivy can't be killed even once, neutralizing her and defeating the remaining 3 means a win for the Fantastic Four.

But what does neutralization mean? Can you hold a consciousness inside a force field? How? It has no mass, no matter. It can simply be transferred to another piece of plant life.

Can you block telepathy with a forcefield? How? Same problem....

wow, people really underestimate medusa. and someone should make a respect thread for poison ivy

Originally posted by Soljer
But what does neutralization mean? Can you hold a consciousness inside a force field? How? It has no mass, no matter. It can simply be transferred to another piece of plant life.

Can you block telepathy with a forcefield? How? Same problem....

I know. I was asking if someone could think of a way to neutralize Ivy then that would be a win. Sue's shields can probably only block telekinesis and not telepathy since Mr. Fantastic made each member of the F4 psy blockers.

Originally posted by What If...
Not really...he/she just took 3 scans out of the IW Respect Thread we've all seen before...

Still doesn't counter the fact that Poison Ivy can solo the 4.

doesnt matter where the scans came from there proof

and by the way if you would have read my post i didnt say sue ftw i said i dont think ivy will crush sues force fields with her vines.