Avengers vs Despero

Originally posted by starlock
I can agree with that

Avengers 7/10 (6/10)

Quasar is the only one for sure is protected,the issue with him getting beat by TP and then making the quantum bands create a jamming signal to protect him is alluding me but i remember it,

Sersi is the next one,,she can help those under despero's control

thor/ironman have shown some defense against it,but at despero's level i cant say for sure

The others are screwed,i am not going with the sentry might have and what not,unless quasar can give them protection(not sure if he has done so,i remember the overmind could not effect quasar,did he protect some of the squadron surpreme from him?)

I see despero getting 3-4 wins by creating havok amongst the heroes,it will not be easy for the Avengers or Despero, and i think it is a good thread

Nvrbeenwthagirl-Can Despero teleport out of the Quantum zone without the flame of ?(cant remember the name of the flame) if yes i might have to think this over again

Despero has Serious Teleportation Abilities. The Flame of Pytar is what your looking for. Despero has never been shown to be able to be held in any zone becuz of his Teleportation powers. And His TK is also a force as well. It seems to hit as hard as his TP does. He used it on EASG.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Since We have pretty much agreed that Superman Batman doesn't follow the rules and is pretty much a stroke fest filled with PIS. we don't use those examples. This is the same book that had batman fighting Doomsday clones with a batarang and an ax and had Batman Beat Grundy in Hand to Hand, Had WW deflect the OB, and Superman Recover from Getting his ass handed to him by ds in what? Like one second?

But, I thought there was some sort of explanation for her doing this...
Now, it's used to show the books are full of pis? 🙄

He's going to have to do it again, because I have a feeling DS is going to be eating shit through a straw after Superman is done with him.

Originally posted by WorldWarHulk
It was a bat-axe, not just an axe.
Oh boy, he beat the shit out of Grundy (that's what the b*tch gets for attacking the "Bat-Man" from behind)! Given another chance, he'd do the same.

But, I thought there was some sort of explanation for her doing this...
Now, it's used to show the books are full of pis? 🙄

He's going to have to do it again, because I have a feeling DS is going to be eating shit through a straw after Superman is done with him.

Probably not. Since DS is going to kill Superman's Best freind and pretty much **** with all of DC. Superman wont' be doing much of anything. P.S. You trying to start another argument wont' work. Lamo.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Probably not. Since DS is going to kill Superman's Best freind and pretty much **** with all of DC. Superman wont' be doing much of anything. P.S. You trying to start another argument wont' work. Lamo.

Was that a question? I don't know if I should answer it, since I don't know what it's supposed to be.

Despero goes down. HARD. Thor? Sentry? Sersi? Quasar? Ouch.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Despero goes down. HARD. Thor? Sentry? Sersi? Quasar? Ouch.

Let's not forget that Despero has TK, TP, Hypnosis, and He can teleport not only himself, but others with his powers as well. He can bfr the tuffest of the opponents, Mind control the ones who have less resistance, and pummel the very strongest on his own. I'd say Deserpo gets 5-6/10 Using his brain. besides, Most of these guys aren't as fast in battle as say Superman and Captain marvel or flash, and Despero uses his powers well against them.

All those powers you mentioned? The people I mentioned have those, to greater degree and more powers to boot.

Seriously. Despero barely knocks out the weaker members of the JLA in multiple issues, he ISN'T taking down that team.

Avengers ftw

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I didnt' care for a thing you said. You said that the JLA can't do everything Thor can do. WRONG. GL can do everything Thor can do. THOR can't do everything the JLA can. Unless he can move as fast as the flash, hand out Imps, phase like manhunter, turn invisible, Make even God's bend to his will, drill to the center of planets only using his hands and more. You calling me a hippcrit means what? Nothing. Thor's DMG said means not a damned thing becuz he's fighting someone with TP and fist. One doesn't have to use TP as blast that can be blocked. How about just taking over someone's mind? Thor's been taken over enough for us to know he's not resistant. Your entire argument is without merit and mired in your own attempt to get in some shots at me. try harder. Thor can never beat Despero where the JLA fail. And he certainly isn't more versatile than THe JLA. Rediculous.

So thats your argument? I don't care for a thing you said? Ah whats it matter, it seems as if I'm talking to a wall.

Thats because they can't. There is no evidence supporting your claims, and I doubt a GL could channel the godly energies he does not possess in the form of a powerful blast.

Never said he could. If you took the time to actually read through my argument you would realize that I specifically stated Thor couldn't duplicate all the powers of the big 7.

Again you make it evident that you have no idea what your talking about. Thor has phased and turned in visible. Making gods bend to your will and drilling to cores of planets using strength aren't powers. However their feats I believe he could duplicate.

It's hypocrite.

We've already pointed out Thor's resistance to TP, and his extreme durability. Physical strength isn't something Thor's new to.

You have no idea how many times Thor's mind resistance has been breached. In fact i doubt you've ever read a comic where a character even made an attempt to attack Thor via TP.

The rest of your post is irrelevant as you make no attempt to refute my arguments with evidence but simply provide us with your biased opinion. Also, it's spelled ridiculous.

Originally posted by His Airness
So thats your argument? I don't care for a thing you said? Ah whats it matter, it seems as if I'm talking to a wall.

Thats because they can't. There is no evidence supporting your claims, and I doubt a GL could channel the godly energies he does not possess in the form of a powerful blast.

Never said he could. If you took the time to actually read through my argument you would realize that I specifically stated Thor couldn't duplicate all the powers of the big 7.

Again you make it evident that you have no idea what your talking about. Thor has phased and turned in visible. Making gods bend to your will and drilling to cores of planets using strength aren't powers. However their feats I believe he could duplicate.

It's hypocrite.

We've already pointed out Thor's resistance to TP, and his extreme durability. Physical strength isn't something Thor's new to.

You have no idea how many times Thor's mind resistance has been breached. In fact i doubt you've ever read a comic where a character even made an attempt to attack Thor via TP.

The rest of your post is irrelevant as you make no attempt to refute my arguments with evidence but simply provide us with your biased opinion. Also, it's spelled ridiculous.

Of course you know I dont' care how I spell. Thor can't channel cosmic energy. So you mentioning him channeling Godly energies means not a damned thing. Wonder WOman can channel Godly Energy. THor cannot Duplicate the feats of the JLA. Let's see, Kyle rebuilt Heaven's ladder, SUpers, Wonder, and MM, pulled the earth against the sun's gravity, MM has uber TP, Thor has none, MM can shape change, Thor cannot, Superman moves and reacts at light speeds, Thor does not, Flash can do Imps and steal kinetic energy, Thor has never done that. Thor cannot reproduce every feat The JLA can but they sure as hell can do everything he can. and more.

Thor doesn't need to replicate every feat that anyone on the jla has ever done, to be more versatile than them.

Dictionary.com should still be online.

And why do you keep bringing up Supermans and Cap Marvels speed in regard to Despero vs Thor?

They've never used it against him, so why factor it in now? Oh yeah, bias.

Despero can't win this match, unless you disregard what every Avenger brings to the table.

Originally posted by UniOmni
Thor doesn't need to replicate every feat that anyone on the jla has ever done, to be more versatile than them.

Dictionary.com should still be online.

And why do you keep bringing up Supermans and Cap Marvels speed in regard to Despero vs Thor?

They've never used it against him, so why factor it in now? Oh yeah, bias.

Despero can't win this match, unless you disregard what every Avenger brings to the table.

Speak when your spoken to. I don't like you. and you are very marvel biased. So don't tell me about biased. Despero Knocks JLAers around with Ease. And Both Superman and Captain Marvel are a hell of a lot tuffer than thor in the durability dept. Thor isn't dmg soaking a punch. Nor is he Blocking a freaking hypnotic third eye that can control entire worlds. No blast to block. I already gave my summation on the battle. Maybe you should go thru the thread and read it. It might help you on your next response since you like to speak when I"m not speaking to you. OH Yeah. And Thor isn't more versatile than EVen a GL. So him being more versatile than The Entire JLA is Ugly Bias at it's worst. And your showing it.

You do realize that just because you say it more and more, doesn't make it true?

I'm not Marvel biased to think that Despero wouldn't walk all over the Avengers.

And smartguy, Thors damage soak works akin to their durability. He's not gonna damage soak a punch? I guess you don't know what damage soak is then, huh?

Despero isn't as durable as you'd think he is, and he's gonna get wracked facing this team.
And yeah, i'd wager an antiforce blast to the face or torso from Thor would lay him out cold.
But then, you'll probably just call me a marvel biased tard for seeing things differently from you.

Do i have to get a DC based sig to prove otherwise?

Originally posted by UniOmni
You do realize that just because you say it more and more, doesn't make it true?

I'm not Marvel biased to think that Despero wouldn't walk all over the Avengers.

And smartguy, Thors damage soak works akin to their durability. He's not gonna damage soak a punch? I guess you don't know what damage soak is then, huh?

Despero isn't as durable as you'd think he is, and he's gonna get wracked facing this team.
And yeah, i'd wager an antiforce blast to the face or torso from Thor would lay him out cold.
But then, you'll probably just call me a marvel biased tard for seeing things differently from you.

Do i have to get a DC based sig to prove otherwise?

When Thor can Block hypnosis, Let me know. Till then, he gets pwned. Despero Knocks Superman out he sure as hell knocks Thor out and most of the team. Anyways, I'd like you to block me. Save urself the itch of having to respond to me when I'm NOT talking to you.

See, that whole Superman gets koed = Thor koed thing, tells me you might not know what a damage soak is.

Moving on.

I won't block you.

You make me(and others) laugh quite often. Why rob myself of the amusement?

And Kudos to His Airness.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Of course you know I dont' care how I spell. Thor can't channel cosmic energy. So you mentioning him channeling Godly energies means not a damned thing. Wonder WOman can channel Godly Energy. THor cannot Duplicate the feats of the JLA. Let's see, Kyle rebuilt Heaven's ladder, SUpers, Wonder, and MM, pulled the earth against the sun's gravity, MM has uber TP, Thor has none, MM can shape change, Thor cannot, Superman moves and reacts at light speeds, Thor does not, Flash can do Imps and steal kinetic energy, Thor has never done that. Thor cannot reproduce every feat The JLA can but they sure as hell can do everything he can. and more.

Well thats unfortunate. Proper comprehension of the English language is vital in todays society.

I assume you've never picked up and actually read a Thor or even an Avenger comic? Thor produced cosmic energy in Avengers #5.

Channeling godly energies is what Thor does to ready the god blast. This is vital considering it's Thor's most powerful attack. An attack that a GL nor WW could produce.

Thor does not need to duplicate every feat of the JLA to be more versatile than the bunch. You should read up on the definition of versatility.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Speak when your spoken to. I don't like you. and you are very marvel biased. So don't tell me about biased. Despero Knocks JLAers around with Ease. And Both Superman and Captain Marvel are a hell of a lot tuffer than thor in the durability dept. Thor isn't dmg soaking a punch. Nor is he Blocking a freaking hypnotic third eye that can control entire worlds. No blast to block. I already gave my summation on the battle. Maybe you should go thru the thread and read it. It might help you on your next response since you like to speak when I"m not speaking to you. OH Yeah. And Thor isn't more versatile than EVen a GL. So him being more versatile than The Entire JLA is Ugly Bias at it's worst. And your showing it.

Your obviously oblivious to the term damage soak....🙁

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Thor can't channel cosmic energy.

🤨 are you talking about, Thor has been channling cosmic energy for the past 40+ years, that's pone of his best assets. The can channel godly energies, mystical, cosmice energy, because hasn't done if for a while doesn't mean he can't. The Avengers will roast Despero.

Originally posted by Validus
Thor takes Despero solo.

IF...he fights using all his versatility and potential, I could see this. But if he fights Despero the way he fought Superman... 😕

Avengers beat his a$$ down.