Maul wins, i think that quote that Fisto, Kolar, Sease and Mace, are 4 greatest swordsman that Order has ever produced, was just to show that they are very good, but i don't think it is correct, it doesn't even include people like Yoda, ROTS Kenobi, Anakin, Dooku, all of this are much better then those in the quote, except for Mace of course.
And Maul is very good and had probably big potential, Sidious wouldn't chose a weak apprentice.
Originally posted by Count MakashiWould you believe Kolar is on par with Dooku?😆
Maul wins, i think that quote that Fisto, Kolar, Sease and Mace, are 4 greatest swordsman that Order has ever produced, was just to show that they are very good, but i don't think it is correct, it doesn't even include people like Yoda, ROTS Kenobi, Anakin, Dooku, all of this are much better then those in the quote, except for Mace of course.
And Maul is very good and had probably big potential, Sidious wouldn't chose a weak apprentice.
Originally posted by Count Makashi
i think that quote that Fisto, Kolar, Sease and Mace, are 4 greatest swordsman that Order has ever produced, was just to show that they are very good, but i don't think it is correct, it doesn't even include people like Yoda, ROTS Kenobi, Anakin, Dooku, all of this are much better then those in the quote, except for Mace of course.
Although I don't really care for darthsith's arguments, why would it necessarily have to? Obviously, if you were able to comprehend the context of the quote, you would see that it's referring to the individuals who were left 'on Coruscant', and accompanied Mace. So, there's no reason to include Yoda, Kenobi, Anakin, etc.
However, the quote hardly means much, anyways, and doesn't exactly indicate that much, just that, as you said, he's talented. It in no way puts him even on the same level as Obi-Wan, much less Count Dooku, and it definitely doesn't mean Darth Maul would lose to him (because he wouldn't).
Originally posted by Count Makashi
Maul wins, i think that quote that Fisto, Kolar, Sease and Mace, are 4 greatest swordsman that Order has ever produced, was just to show that they are very good, but i don't think it is correct, it doesn't even include people like Yoda, ROTS Kenobi, Anakin, Dooku, all of this are much better then those in the quote, except for Mace of course.
And Maul is very good and had probably big potential, Sidious wouldn't chose a weak apprentice.
Of course Maul is NOT weak. We can all easily notice Sidious ONLY chose the best of the best he could find:
-Anakin-Sidious and the Jedi knew that if Anakin would have reached his max potential, he would've become the most Powerful Sith/Jedi that ever existed.
-Luke-Sidious knew Luke had his father's genes and almost the same amount of potential (if not more), so he obviously knew he would become the most powerful of all, since his father was left weakened after the battle against Kenobi on Mustafar and would never been able to reach his max potential.
-Dooku-Sidious knew Dooku was the most powerful of the Order (at least when he made him his apprentice), without counting Yoda and maybe Mace.
So, therefore, we can obviously say Maul is very powerful, at least the most powerful Sidious could find. I say Maul>>Kolar.
From another thread:
Originally posted by jollyjim311
Anoon Bondara was "one of the best fighters in the order. His skill with a lightsaber was second to none."
Darsha Assant "even as an infant she had shown strong Force tendencies," and the day she went to become a Jedi Knight, she "hoped that one day she might be able to exhibit a tenth of Anoon Bondara's adeptness."
When Maul fought Anoon, Maul knew "within the first few moments of the engagement, Darth Maul knew that he himself was the superior fighter."
For Darsha, "It was hard for her to conceive of a situation in which her mentor could be bested in combat, but if anyone was capable of it, she had the feeling the Sith was that one."
Maul made quick work of Anoon, driving him back and then, Anoon, realizing after seconds of confrontation, that he didn't have nearly enough skills to take on Maul, stabbed a speeder bike's engine in attempt to kill both of them. However, in the "microsecond" that Maul had to jump off the platform that the two had been battling on to dodge the explosion, Maul was out of harms way.If Maul is put on the defensive, he has the speed to dodge pretty much everything that's thrown at him, or he can spin his twin blades "so fast they seemed to merge into a crimson shield."
Also, read through this: http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=11&page=001
If the fact that it's 90 pages of flipping through turns you off, remember that it's a comic, and, it's about Maul, so naturally, the dialogue is minimal, and, it really doesn't take long.
Re: Darth Maul vs. Agen Kolar
Originally posted by darthsith19
Battle of the Iridonia Zabrak's! Most of you will probably say that Maul wins because of how badly Agen died in the movies, so for this thread please disregard how Agen died, since that fight scene makes Agen appear to be weaker than Coleman Trebor or ESB Luke.Agen Kolar was one of three Jedi that Mace Windu brought with him to infiltrated the Crimson Nova bounty hunter's guild aboard the Rig, and brought an end to the recent slew of Jedi bounties. He was also trusted enough by Mace Windu to be brought to adduct Chancellor with him.
More impressively, however, this is how badly he beat Vos during the Clone Wars:
And look how badly he tools Aruk the Hutts goons, without even drawing his lightsaber!:
In addition to that, the ROTS novel says: «Given the strain on our current resources,» Mace Windu said, «I recommend we send only one Jedi-Master Kenobi.»
Which would leave Mace and Agen Kolar-both among the greatest bladesbeings the Jedi Order had ever produced-here on Coruscant in case Sidious did indeed take this opportunity to make a dramatic move. Not to mention Anakin, who was a brigade's worth of firepower in his own right.How long has the Jedi Temple been on Courscant? In any case, this statement is very impressive.
Anyways, who wins? Is Maul strong enough to take out one of the gratest bladesbeings that the order ever produced on Courscant?
Just to go off topic and point out yet another of the PT's many plot holes.
The only reason why Yoda goes to Kashyyyk (whose importance is really minimal compared to the Darth Sidious the Jedi clearly know is planning to strike soon) is because Ki-Adi-Mundi just casually brings it up in a council meeting - it's like they just happened upon remembering that "important" planet on chance. (Yeah, I'm copying RLM here).
Otherwise, Yoda would've stayed on Coruscant, and Palpatine would have been ****ed when the arrest team arrived, Anakin or no Anakin. I guess he'd have had to delay his reveal to Anakin, but there's a very small window of opportunity for him to pull his Order 66 here.
If he tries to pull it off when Yoda is on Coruscant, he's going to deal with Yoda and Windu on his ass.
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Dave Filoni has outright confirmed that Savage Opress alone performed better against Sidious than Kolar/Tiin/Fisto.Simply put Maul>Opress>Kolar.
Or: Maul and Opress >> Tiin + Fisto + Kolar.
Maul Lose To A Padawan & Kolar Lose To Sidious Because Sidious Cheat. Master Kolar>>>Darth Maul.
& Filoni Never Said That Liar.