Originally posted by King_Mungi
Death's Head II punked the X-Men, oh yeah I know who he is as I have many comics about him as well. He was virtually invulnerable, immune to psi-bolts from Psylocke, immune from Rogue's absorption touch as she went crazy doing it, etc.
If by virtually invulnerable you mean Wolverine cuts his arm off, then yeah.
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Also, Psylocke's psi-bolt put him down (with a scream) for about a page before he decided it "didn't harm him". And the Rogue absorption thing is moot. She went crazy because of the 106 personalities inside him...not because his power level was so far beyond hers. And since he's obviously not a "mind" pick (his tech wouldn't count as tech since he's a cyborg) that isn't even an issue.
Death's Head II #1
-Death's Head shrugs off photon bursts from a villian with no damage (twice)
-Shrugs off a "modest" optic blast from Cyclops doesn't even phaze him
-Shrugs off a balst, which Cyclops says he isn't holding back
-Rogue instantly goes uncouncious from touching Death's Head
Death's Head II #2
-Wolverine cuts off his right arm and literally in seconds he reforms another one
-Psycloke's psi-bolt temporally subdues him, but he is up instantly and says try a toothpick next time as it might her more.
Originally posted by DigiMark007
If by virtually invulnerable you mean Wolverine cuts his arm off, then yeah.🙄
Also, Psylocke's psi-bolt put him down (with a scream) for about a page before he decided it "didn't harm him". And the Rogue absorption thing is moot. She went crazy because of the 106 personalities inside him...not because his power level was so far beyond hers. And since he's obviously not a "mind" pick (his tech wouldn't count as tech since he's a cyborg) that isn't even an issue.
And he reformed it instantly
panel you mean, and when Rogue did that she didn't even phaze him he just caught her in air.
The Rogue/Psylocke feats are moot, like I said, because it has to do with his personalities, which won't be a part of the amalgam.
As for the arm, it's made of liquid molebdenum, a different substance from the rest of his body, and can reform. Nowhere in any of his comics does he show healing on this level with the rest of his body.
I can show you the A.I.M. file that states that his outer body is made of reinforced titanium, which is no more durable than any other brick in this tourney....nor can he reform the body at nearly the same level as his arm since it's constructed differently.
Originally posted by DigiMark007
The Rogue/Psylocke feats are moot, like I said, because it has to do with his personalities, which won't be a part of the amalgam.As for the arm, it's made of liquid molebdenum, a different substance from the rest of his body, and can reform. Nowhere in any of his comics does he show healing on this level with the rest of his body.
I can show you the A.I.M. file that states that his outer body is made of reinforced titanium, which is no more durable than any other brick in this tourney....nor can he reform the body at nearly the same level as his arm since it's constructed differently.
Psylocke had nothing to do with personalities at all, Rogue yes but still when even if her powers backfire on someone it gives them a surge as well. However, it did nothing to Death's Head.
Actually it has, even in Dark Guard he has shown his body as in chests healds from attacks just like his arm does.
Yet he has shown far more duarable feats that would put him over titanium.
Originally posted by DigiMark007
Also, it's cnvenient how everyone shows up like vultures when they think someone can get banned, without ever thinking that maybe I'm not just being a fanboy.At least Mungi's backing up his statements. The rest of you are just jumping on the bandwagon like you know what you're talking about.
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I was making an observation,and note the may.
I don't see why Psylocke's attack wouldn't be a personality/mind thing. It attacks the mind. Or mind(s) in this case.
And the healing feats you're referring to are indeed good feats (there's a couple other arcs where he heals from holes in him) but still nothing above the level of quite a few in the tourney. And the arm-thing is light-years beyond even his best healing feats for his body. He can heal stuff, but that was straight-up reforming an arm because of it's liquid composition. He can't do anything like that otherwise.
And beyond that, he's been put down by strength, energy, bladed weapons, etc. plenty of times. He's hardly invulnerable...and like I said, there's no shields to protect him, just his healing.
Originally posted by DigiMark007
I don't see why Psylocke's attack wouldn't be a personality/mind thing. It attacks the mind. Or mind(s) in this case.And the healing feats you're referring to are indeed good feats (there's a couple other arcs where he heals from holes in him) but still nothing above the level of quite a few in the tourney. And the arm-thing is light-years beyond even his best healing feats for his body.
And beyond that, he's been put down by strength, energy, bladed weapons, etc. plenty of times. He's hardly invulnerable...and like I said, there's no shields to protect him, just his healing.
It attacks the body and mind, but it had nothing to do with having all the personalities as DH as mentioned has one mind just with their memories.
Like you mentioned he has healed from holes, not sure if your thinking the same one as me as the hole was giant and he healed in seconds.
Yet he has taken on several class 100 characters and shrugged off blows such as Lehdrox, and spikes from a female villian who's name slips my mind at the moment send her spikes at DH and they merely bounced off. Full blasts from Cyclops didn't even budge him let alone cause any damage.
Originally posted by DigiMark007
And to MM, it wasn't just directed at you. More in general to the 3-4 who jumped on with an obvious lack of a real argument, just one-line affirmations of actual debates.
This list Minion's power and abilities and apparently he was cut in half and healed. I havn't read that so I cannot back that up
Cut in half is a huge exaggeration. It's from his limited series with Die-Cut. Die-Cut cuts him along his torso, but there's never a panel to suggest he's cut in half, just badly sliced. DHII actually is talking through the whole thing after the initial bold-faced "AARGH!"
Dark Guard is about the only arc he's in that I don't own. But I'm not lying when I say that (outside of that, possibly) he's never displayed healing that would put him over any caps, and he is reinforced titanium, which is within the durability limits.
Originally posted by DigiMark007
Cut in half is a huge exaggeration. It's from his limited series with Die-Cut. Die-Cut cuts him along his torso, but there's never a panel to suggest he's cut in half, just badly sliced. DHII actually is talking through the whole thing after the initial bold-faced "AARGH!"Dark Guard is about the only arc he's in that I don't own. But I'm not lying when I say that (outside of that, possibly) he's never displayed healing that would put him over any caps.
Except with his insanely high durability he has a healing factor toped off. Yeah I don't agree with the pick, BUT I'm not in this tourny so it's up to others to decide.
I understand your point, but if we used everyone's 1 best feat, the whole tourney would be banned. And DHII is a solid-as-hell mesh of various elements (like decent durability, decent healing, strength, etc.) that is powerful collectively, but doesn't go over any single cap. And if we included his low showings (again, which everyone has) he's clearly within the limits.
Still, good to see someone well-versed on Minion, even if we took opposing sides here.
why would being immune to psylocke's blasts count against him? psylocke was not the standard set for this . . .
and dhii sounds a lot like wolverine.
only stronger. the only healing cap i'm aware of is deadpool.
i'm not saying he is or isn't over caps, just saying that based on what mungi has said, he sounds like an uber-strong wolverine. why would that be banned if wolverine's healing factor is considered fine and within caps?
and has anyone confirmed warlock's killability? 😕
or has the matter manip situation been settled . . .? 😕
Originally posted by DigiMark007
I understand your point, but if we used everyone's 1 best feat, the whole tourney would be banned. And DHII is a solid-as-hell mesh of various elements (like decent durability, decent healing, strength, etc.) that is powerful collectively, but doesn't go over any single cap. And if we included his low showings (again, which everyone has) he's clearly within the limits.Still, good to see someone well-versed on Minion, even if we took opposing sides here.
Ummm...I wasn't talking about 1 best feat, I was mentioning several. He's a beast, and even easily trashed your other boy Death's Head I 😛. He has far higher level in those areas then "decent" and taking the attacks he has and not even getting any damage yes that puts him over the caps especially durability. Strength is iffy, as he is class 100 but no set limit has been established.
Well I'm talking about the average Minion and he is a beast.
He's definitely not the strongest in the tourney, so no worries there. He's clearly a Class 100, but strength feats are harder to come by for Minion than most other areas for him.
And we're splitting hairs. The Death's Head I fight was cool but doesn't really put him over any caps (much as I love DHI as well).
But yeah, he's a beast. And as I see it, whoever has him did a nice job of managing their draft well within the tourney's parameters (provided they use him well).