Originally posted by Kadesh
He was giving a simple metaphor, he indirectly implied that there is absolutely no evidence that WCP could have squeezed the universe in her palm
Going by his logic, lets replace the bowling ball with a ballon or a piece of paper. When all is said and done theres really no comparasion between the two. Now about White phoneix winning i personally feel she can from what was stated about her.
Originally posted by Kadesh
1) no where does it state that she could have crushed it, 2) even if she did, wouldnt it destroy where she is?Simple concepts elude such people
Lastly i will never argue against MR master, why? Because of all people he is one of the only debators who actually s knows what he is talking about, And i rather listen to what he says
Now if you are going to say why WPC wins, the next LOGICAL step is to list down why
You see,i say someone who does not argue or question a liar and a deceitful arrogant poster such as Mr Master is no one to take seriously
so good luck
Such concepts elude simple people
White Crown Phoenix for the win
Originally posted by Supreme beingAnd what was stated about her? Going by what logic really is, we cannot assume her being able to crush a universe for the simple fact that there is no evidence, And when theres no evidence there is no debate. Was it even stated that she ccan crush the universe?
Going by his logic, lets replace the bowling ball with a ballon or a piece of paper. When all is said and done theres really no comparasion between the two. Now about White phoneix winning i personally feel she can from what was stated about her.
Btw LT already stated eternity is above every one else save for himself(LT) and TOAA
Originally posted by starlockMr master arrogant? I would agree but he has that right to be arrogant, and a liar? The scans he showed me already proves you wrong about him being a liar.
You see,i say someone who does not argue or question a liar and a deceitful arrogant poster such as Mr Master is no one to take seriously
so good luck
Originally posted by starlockAs much as i respect you, quit being a parrot please
Such concepts elude simple people
Originally posted by starlockEternity for the win as stated by LT, Btw every post you make in a PF thread, its phoenix for the win, so how bout PF vs LT and TOAA?
White Crown Phoenix for the win
Originally posted by Kadesh
Btw LT already stated eternity is above every one else save for himself(LT) and TOAA
Except we know that can't be true since the IG has enough power to usur TehBigE's position. And Jaspers did that too. And there's that whole MultiEternity that would be above Eternity. The UN can take out a universe or more. The CN has destroyed a universe before.
For someone who's the third greatest power in the universe it seems that a great number of things within the polyverse can kill or depose it.
Originally posted by Symmetric ChaosDo you need me to post the scan where LT said that? Despite LT being a supreme being in marvel knowing whats going on, i doubt what he said is fallible. ill ask mr M for the scan. And what LT said = canon
Except we know that can't be true since the IG has enough power to usur TehBigE's position. And Jaspers did that too. And there's that whole MultiEternity that would be above Eternity. The UN can take out a universe or more. The CN has destroyed a universe before.For someone who's the third greatest power in the universe it seems that a great number of things within the polyverse can kill or depose it.
One thing, marvel is full of inconsistencies. Iv read the bios on every website including marvel and according to what i have read, WCP is severely overhyped and hyper overrated in these forums alone where people claim it can take LT and TOAA
Originally posted by Kadesh
Do you need me to post the scan where LT said that? Despite LT being a supreme being in marvel knowing whats going on, i doubt what he said is fallible. ill ask mr M for the scan. And what LT said = canonOne thing, marvel is full of inconsistencies. Iv read the bios on every website including marvel and according to what i have read, WCP is severely overhyped and hyper overrated in these forums alone where people claim it can take LT and TOAA
I'm not saying anything about the fight. I'm just pointing out that Eternity is not nearly as powerful as you claim.
As for inconsistencies . . . 1 statement is nothing compared to various defeats on TehBigE's part.
Let me ask you some questions Kadesh
Did you make a spite thread?
Did you make a debatable thread?
Are you looking to bash phoenix and label everyone a fanboy if they pick Phoenix? because you think she is overhyped and you want to show everyone your right?
If you respect Mr Master so much you must have seen alot of his post in the past,now tell me have you seen him lie get caught and keep lying just to win a debate? i have on numerous occasions, have you seen him post misleading scans(like onslaught crushing phoenix) and get caught and dissapear untill the thread dies? i have
Whatever Kadesh
WCP vs LT- debatable
WCP vs TOAA-not debatable- she loses
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Except we know that can't be true since the IG has enough power to usur TehBigE's position. And Jaspers did that too. And there's that whole MultiEternity that would be above Eternity. The UN can take out a universe or more. The CN has destroyed a universe before.For someone who's the third greatest power in the universe it seems that a great number of things within the polyverse can kill or depose it.
You also forgot to add when the infinities owned eternity with just a hand, Its clear from the amount of times Eternity has been taking down that it isn't third in the hierarchy of things. And that seems to be Kadesh one and only argument oh LT said it is so it is.
Originally posted by Endless Mike
The point is that just because she could hold it in her hand doesn't mean that she could crush it
Well she never tried so we don't know that fact is she held it in her hands all we can come up with is speculations of how far she could have taken things. And if we apply your logic then was eternity comparable to a piece of paper to her or a bowling ball it could be either.
Originally posted by Kadesh
And what was stated about her? Going by what logic really is, we cannot assume her being able to crush a universe for the simple fact that there is no evidence, And when theres no evidence there is no debate. Was it even stated that she ccan crush the universe?Btw LT already stated eternity is above every one else save for himself(LT) and TOAA
By the way the watcher has claimed the PF is the single greatest force in the universe next to TOAA doesn't mean its real. The PF has also been said to be the summation of psionic energy of all the realities of the multiverse
Originally posted by Supreme beingFirstly just because you are in third place in power doesnt mean you always win, and this always happens in the marvel universe
You also forgot to add when the infinities owned eternity with just a hand, Its clear from the amount of times Eternity has been taking down that it isn't third in the hierarchy of things. And that seems to be Kadesh one and only argument oh LT said it is so it is.
Originally posted by Supreme beingAgain show me a source where it states that she could have destroyed the universe at that moment, Prove it, o wait right you cant. I can also come up with speculation that galactus can drain his ship, get the IG, drain every energy source in the universe then go face TOAA and whoop his ass. Thats your logic "0000 cuz sh3 D!d T!s $0 Sh3 c@n D0 T@t" Because by doing what you claim she could do, that automatically puts her above TOAA
Well she never tried so we don't know that fact is she held it in her hands all we can come up with is speculations of how far she could have taken things. And if we apply your logic then was eternity comparable to a piece of paper to her or a bowling ball it could be either.
Originally posted by Supreme beingInconsistencies as i forsaw, according to source books and out-of-universe explanations, the watcher is wrong, LT is behind TOAA, the comes eternity/FP galactus/ WCP(my opinion) and Starlock, i dont hate the phoenix, infact rachel summers is in my top 5 fav characters, i despise WCP simply because shes so overhyped
By the way the watcher has claimed the PF is the single greatest force in the universe next to TOAA doesn't mean its real.
Originally posted by King KandyNeither did those sources state WCP > LT
However, those sources don't say that LT is above WCP in every aspect...
Originally posted by King KandyLearn to read, i simply wasnt argueing
Well, if you toss around Eternity being third as an argument, then say it doesn't mean anything, then you've just lost the argument.
One thing, just state one thing that WCP could to to finish eternity. Just say that because all i see is "WCP wins". If so i want to know why and i may concede
Originally posted by Kadesh
Firstly just because you are in third place in power doesnt mean you always win, and this always happens in the marvel universe
Again show me a source where it states that she could have destroyed the universe at that moment, Prove it, o wait right you cant. I can also come up with speculation that galactus can drain his ship, get the IG, drain every energy source in the universe then go face TOAA and whoop his ass. Thats your logic "0000 cuz sh3 D!d T!s $0 Sh3 c@n D0 T@t" Because by doing what you claim she could do, that automatically puts her above TOAA
馃檮 now your just making silly excuses, "this always happens in the marvel universe" sure it does perhaps the powers that be at Marvel are trying to tell people like you something.
And for the other part of your statment i think you should follow your own advise.
Originally posted by KadeshLearn to read,