Muhammed- The Peadophile
The Great Prophet of Islam, Muhammed married a Beautiful Nine Year Old Girl named Aisha, to teach her (by the way of the Roddroolio)
He aimed to fill her with his Wisdom.
He aimed to enter his knowledge into her.
Is this Peadophilia ? Yes or No ?
-*Remember*...Aisha was nine years old...Muhammed was a grown adult when he chose her as his lover.
Considereing girls were prolifically married off at ages 15, 12 and younger, it more cultural.
Besides, do you have evidence that they actually had intercourse, or are you just making this thread to piss off Muslims (which it certianly seems so).
And why should we care if Muhammed fits the Modern defintion of a pedophile, what if soceity did not accept this cocept at the time?
Originally posted by FeceMan
First off, pedophilia is the psychological condition--a paraphilia--where one is attracted predominantly to underage individuals.
Right, which is why I didn't label him immoral in that sense. The attraction itself is not good or evil, it just is.
Originally posted by FeceMan
Since we don't have any other insight on Muhammad's sexual inclinations (I assume), we would have to rule, at worst, that he is a child molester.
I heard that Muhammed wasn't really against Gays either, in fact, he even promised many of his homosexual/bisexual male followers male virgins in Heaven.
I have no proof of this, however.
Originally posted by Goddess Kali
[b]The Great Prophet of Islam, Muhammed married a Beautiful Nine Year Old Girl named Aisha, to teach her (by the way of the Roddroolio)He aimed to fill her with his Wisdom.
He aimed to enter his knowledge into her.
Is this Peadophilia ? Yes or No ?
-*Remember*...Aisha was nine years old...Muhammed was a grown adult when he chose her as his lover. [/B]
He was a pedophile. She was 8 years and nine months old (but lets called it 9, to round it up the the nearest year), and he was 54 (some claim he was 57, but lets stick with the lesser age).
Evidence from Muslim sources -
Sahih Bukhari Volume 5, Book 58, Number 236.
Narrated Hisham's father:
Khadija died three years before the Prophet departed to Medina. He stayed there for two years or so and then he married 'Aisha when she was a girl of six years of age, and he consumed (sic – consummated) that marriage when she was nine years old.
Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 64
Narrated 'Aisha:
that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death).
Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 65
Narrated 'Aisha:
that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: I have been informed that 'Aisha remained with the Prophet for nine years (i.e. till his death)." what you know of the Quran (by heart)'
Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 88
Narrated 'Ursa:
The Prophet wrote the (marriage contract) with 'Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death).
Sunan Abu-Dawud Book 41, Number 4915
Narrated Aisha, Ummul Mu'minin:
The Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) married me when I was seven or six. When we came to Medina, some women came. according to Bishr's version: Umm Ruman came to me when I was swinging. They took me, made me prepared and decorated me. I was then brought to the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him), and he took up cohabitation with me when I was nine. She halted me at the door, and I burst into laughter.
Does consummate mean sex? Yes, and here is proof that it does -
In Sahih Bukhari, vol. 7, 64, the root word used is dakhalla.
From the Hans-Wehr Arabic-English Dictionary p273, it means "to enter, to pierce, to penetrate, to consummate the marriage, cohabit, sleep with a woman".
NEXT (and pay attention muslimscholer), proof that Aisha was pre-pubecant, so none of that ''girls in hot places mature faster'' non-scientific, randomly made up fact. -
Islamic law in Aisha's time said that only pre-pubescent girls were allowed to play with or own dolls.
Sahih Bukhari Volume 8, Book 73, Number 151
Narrated 'Aisha: I used to play with the dolls in the presence of the Prophet, and my girl friends also used to play with me. When Allah's Apostle used to enter they used to hide themselves, but the Prophet would call them to join and play with me.
(The playing with the dolls and similar images is forbidden, but it was allowed for 'Aisha at that time, as she was a little girl, not yet reached the age of puberty.) (Fateh-al-Bari page 143, Vol.13)
DEFFINITIONS OF PEDOPHILIA -
Pedophilia has been categorized as a mental illness under paraphilias, which are sexual and gender identity disorders. According to the Introductory Textbook of Psychiatry Second Edition published by the APA, "The pedophile chooses a child of the same or opposite sex as a sexual partner." Pedophilia can be categorized into five subcategories, depending on the circumstance.
Fixated (or exclusive type) pedophilia: The fixated pedophile considers himself to be trapped in childhood; he has few adult relationships and relate better with children. Fixated pedophiles are typically men who are interested in boys.
Regressed (or nonexclusive type) pedophilia: The regressed pedophile views the child as an adult substitute and relate to her as an adult. Typically, the regressed pedophile is a heterosexual male who is married, and they most often molest eight or nine year old girls.
Cross-sex pedophilia: Male pedophiles who molest young girls by befriending her and then gradually engaging in sexual activities. The activities range from folding and oral stimulation but rarely intercourse.
Same-sex pedophilia: They deny being homosexual but seek out same-sex children as they are more aroused by them than by adults.
Female pedophilia: While not commonly reported, female pedophilia is a reality. A typical scenario is a young male or female engaging in sexual activities with adult women.
Furthermore, the APA DSM-IV-TR criteria for pedophilia are:
A. Over a period of 6 months recurrent, intense sexually arousing fantasies, sexual urges, or behaviors involving sexual activity with a prepubescent child or children (generally age 13 years or younger)
B. The person has acted on these sexual urges, or the sexual urges or fantasies caused marked distress or interpersonal difficulty;
C. The person is at least age 16 years and at least 5 years older than the child or children in Criterion A.
Concusion = Muhammad was a pedophile. (amongst other things)
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
He was a pedophile. She was 8 years and nine months old (but lets called it 9, to round it up the the nearest year), and he was 54 (some claim he was 57, but lets stick with the lesser age).Evidence -
Sahih Bukhari Volume 5, Book 58, Number 236.
Narrated Hisham's father:
Khadija died three years before the Prophet departed to Medina. He stayed there for two years or so and then he married 'Aisha when she was a girl of six years of age, and he consumed (sic – consummated) that marriage when she was nine years old.Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 64
Narrated 'Aisha:
that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death).Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 65
Narrated 'Aisha:
that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: I have been informed that 'Aisha remained with the Prophet for nine years (i.e. till his death)." what you know of the Quran (by heart)'Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 88
Narrated 'Ursa:
The Prophet wrote the (marriage contract) with 'Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death).Sunan Abu-Dawud Book 41, Number 4915
Narrated Aisha, Ummul Mu'minin:
The Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) married me when I was seven or six. When we came to Medina, some women came. according to Bishr's version: Umm Ruman came to me when I was swinging. They took me, made me prepared and decorated me. I was then brought to the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him), and he took up cohabitation with me when I was nine. She halted me at the door, and I burst into laughter.Does consummate mean sex? Yes, and here is proof that it does.
In Sahih Bukhari, vol. 7, 64, the root word used is "dakhala".
From the Hans-Wehr Arabic-English Dictionary p273, it means "to enter, to pierce, to penetrate, to consummate the marriage, cohabit, sleep with a woman".NEXT (and pay attention muslimscholer), proof that Aisha was [b]pre-pubecant
, so none of that ''girls in hot places mature faster'' non-scientific, randomly made up fact. -1. Islamic law in Aisha's time said that only pre-pubescent girls were allowed to play with or own dolls.
Sahih Bukhari Volume 8, Book 73, Number 151
Narrated 'Aisha: I used to play with the dolls in the presence of the Prophet, and my girl friends also used to play with me. When Allah's Apostle used to enter they used to hide themselves, but the Prophet would call them to join and play with me.
(The playing with the dolls and similar images is forbidden, but it was allowed for 'Aisha at that time, as she was a little girl, not yet reached the age of puberty.) (Fateh-al-Bari page 143, Vol.13)DEFFINITIONS OF PEDOPHILIA -
Pedophilia has been categorized as a mental illness under paraphilias, which are sexual and gender identity disorders. According to the Introductory Textbook of Psychiatry Second Edition published by the APA, "The pedophile chooses a child of the same or opposite sex as a sexual partner." Pedophilia can be categorized into five subcategories, depending on the circumstance.
Fixated (or exclusive type) pedophilia: The fixated pedophile considers himself to be trapped in childhood; he has few adult relationships and relate better with children. Fixated pedophiles are typically men who are interested in boys.
Regressed (or nonexclusive type) pedophilia: The regressed pedophile views the child as an adult substitute and relate to her as an adult. Typically, the regressed pedophile is a heterosexual male who is married, and they most often molest eight or nine year old girls.
Cross-sex pedophilia: Male pedophiles who molest young girls by befriending her and then gradually engaging in sexual activities. The activities range from folding and oral stimulation but rarely intercourse.
Same-sex pedophilia: They deny being homosexual but seek out same-sex children as they are more aroused by them than by adults.
Female pedophilia: While not commonly reported, female pedophilia is a reality. A typical scenario is a young male or female engaging in sexual activities with adult women.Furthermore, the APA DSM-IV-TR criteria for pedophilia are:
A. Over a period of 6 months recurrent, intense sexually arousing fantasies, sexual urges, or behaviors involving sexual activity with a prepubescent child or children (generally age 13 years or younger)
B. The person has acted on these sexual urges, or the sexual urges or fantasies caused marked distress or interpersonal difficulty;
C. The person is at least age 16 years and at least 5 years older than the child or children in Criterion A.Concusion = Muhammad was a dirty pedophile. (amongst other things) [/B]
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Originally posted by Bardock42
Dirty is your opinion. Also degrading. Think about reporting for slander of high religious figure.
I am sticking up for the dude, yung bitches always drink da hoochie round mine.
Originally posted by pot_edd_wigga
Yo yo..... Now wow is dat racism? word... Things was different den. If grass is on da pitch people play ball. 👆 Tis true on my estate. Bitchin name you has babe.