Originally posted by StarhawkJust showing how ludicrous your logic is. If we are going to guarantee freedom of speech, freedom of the press, freedom of religion, freedom to assemble, we cannot pick and choose who we give that right to, just because we like or dislike who is utilizing that freedom.
Where did that come from?
You may think otherwise, but that is not liberty. That is not democracy. That is not America.
Originally posted by Strangelove
Just showing how ludicrous your logic is. If we are going to guarantee freedom of speech, freedom of the press, freedom of religion, freedom to assemble, we cannot pick and choose who we give that right to, just because we like or dislike who is utilizing that freedom.You may think otherwise, but that is not liberty. That is not democracy. That is not America.
Yes and look at all the trouble it has brought you. Up in Canada, we have put some simple limitations on those freedoms and managed to keep our liberty and reduce the problems they cause. Unrestrained freedom can be a bad thing.
Originally posted by Starhawk
Yes and look at all the trouble it has brought you. Up in Canada, we have put some simple limitations on those freedoms and managed to keep our liberty and reduce the problems they cause. Unrestrained freedom can be a bad thing.
well, move to china. there its completely safe. no drugs because if your caught with any you get a 5 minute trial and a rifle bullet through your brain. safest country in the world.
Originally posted by SchecterGood ol' China, where our motto is, "You'll come for the booming economy, but stay for the Communist stranglehold on social life!" thumbsup
well, move to china. there its completely safe. no drugs because if your caught with any you get a 5 minute trial and a rifle bullet through your brain. safest country in the world.
You take everything to extremes. Canada is a perfect example of how it can be done without creating a tyranny. We don't allow hate speech, we have stricter limits on the ability to own firearms. We have rules about demonstrations and protests. And we have not become a tyranny. It's doesn't have to be one or the other.
Originally posted by Starhawk
You take everything to extremes.
so does politics and life....reality in fact.
dictatorships, oppressive regimes, genocide ets occur partially because of voices like yours which say "oh thats so ridiculous, it will never happen, simply because i said so." our country was structured upon this caution. and people like you, who read no history yet know EVERYTHING, ignore it.
Originally posted by Strangelove
If you allow the government to limit your freedoms, then they'll start chipping away....
Well we have had those for quite awhile now and our freedoms are fine. And actually the vast majority of Canadians like that provision in the Bill of Rights.
And look at your Government. Wire Tapping, Torture, unlimited detainment without charges based on suspicion.
Our rights seem far more intact then yours.
Originally posted by Starhawk
Well we have had those for quite awhile now and our freedoms are fine. And actually the vast majority of Canadians like that provision in the Bill of Rights.And look at your Government. Wire Tapping, Torture, unlimited detainment without charges based on suspicion.
Our rights seem far more intact then yours.
amazing how you can type that and still not pretend to see the point of the importance of constitutional freedom as its written, untampered. unaltered.
do you consciously lie to yourself to win threads? i ask this because if not you'd realise that you just justified our opinions to a tee. perhaps you didnt realise that and were too focused on delivering your trite and counterproductive "my country is better than yours" statement.