I'll need justification for that, Berserker, seeing as that you casually wipe out Machines and Humans wihout giving them any choice as part of yuor day job.
Didn't you do it all for a chance to free Humanity?
Isn't talking about giving Humans in the Matrix a choice irrelevant, because they are enslaved to the System to the point where they are dependant on it (yet you fight anyway)?
Berserker thinks of it this way. If they choose to attack him then they made their choice to fight or if they attack his friends they made their choice. Berserker would be just as happy not having to fight.
As to why he does what he does. He doesn't do it necessarily to free the rest of humanity, he would like to do that, but his main objective is to help protect the people of Zion.
As for the choice part. Berserker was saying that given the choice he would gladly die so that other people could live and the cause of Zion. The people of Matrix and even the crew members haven't made that same choice. So Berserker can not let other innocent people be murdered for cause that isn't there own.
Berserker is a protector before all things.
That's counterlogical action then.
If you are not into the cause of freeing humanity and instead want to secure Zion, then destroying the Matrix is absolutely the way to go.
It's what a lot of Zion wants. Remember, most of those people in the Matrix cannot be saved. They are already doomed to die in there.
What about my bomb question? What if Zion asked you to use such a bomb?
For Klez, if he had the power to stop the Virus, he would not stop it.
While the death of so many humans that could be freed is tragic, Klez has been fighting this war for so long and seen no real success against the Machines until this plan that Lo Qi has initiated. The Machines cannot fight the Virus, whereas they could easily foil any of our future missions. With the Virus, there's no need to risk any more of Zion's soldiers, and Zion will be allowed to grow and advance without worrying about Sentinels swarming them all the time.
The only thing Klez is bitter about is the fact that he is going to die.
Heph believes that he would try to stop the Virus, if he could. Heph believes this because he believes in Neo and the Prophecy of the One.
Knowing Zion, not everyone would want to put their faith in Neo, and they would use the hypothetical anti-Matrix bomb to end the Matrix and everyone in it.
But Heph believes that Neo could end the war and the Matrix without slaughtering all humanity in the Matrix.
Originally posted by UshgarakOh ok that is what you meant.
That's counterlogical action then.If you are not into the cause of freeing humanity and instead want to secure Zion, then destroying the Matrix is absolutely the way to go.
It's what a lot of Zion wants. Remember, most of those people in the Matrix cannot be saved. They are already doomed to die in there.
What about my bomb question? What if Zion asked you to use such a bomb?
Berserker is for freeing them. Which is what he believes the cause of Zion is to free Humanity from the Matrix.
He wouldn't use the bomb ever Berserker is a fighter not a murderer.
But they can't be freed, that's part of the problem. It's too late. Those Humans are lost; only a very few can be rescued, and only if you find them in time. The vast majority of thise Humans are lost causes.
The objectives of Zion are twofold- to preserve free humanity, and defeat the Machines.
The Machines are invulnerable whilst the Matrix stands.
Thats just it though Berserker will not let people die if he has the power to stop it. Even if he doesn't he feels it is better to go out fighting it then accepting it. I guess he is kind of taking the moral round. He can not sit by and let so much life die.
Even if it may defeat the machines.
So I guess if that is the ultimate mission of Zion then no Berserker doesn't feel that way. He would rather protect life.
Yes, because you know, as a player, that the One is going to do no such thing and is in fact part of the system of control.
And how so? Because Lo Qi's position is based on religious fundamentalism. Aboslute blind faith in the One is based on the same.
Everything you think about the One is a possibility only- driven only by belief which is very possibly irrational and, ultimately, misplaced.
Whereas the Virus is a fact. Would you really destroy a factual chance to win the war in favour of a theoretical one?
When you put it that way...no. Heph would not stop the Virus.
I've always wanted Heph to have faith in the prophecy of the One (though I know that's not at all what happens). He's part of the system of control, but not even Neo knows that until Reloaded. Heph expressed belief that Neo would win the war in the previous campaign to Medea, as well, when she told him that Jericho thought the war could not be won.
Still, dying can influence your beliefs, I suppose.
Originally posted by UshgarakThen Berserker will fight on the front lives when and if the machines come. Basically whatever lives are in danger he will protect those to the fullest and in essence he means that for the machines as well.
And what about the propsoed alternative, which is that all Human life ends?
Berserker feels that a society based only surviving and disregarding so much life to do so doesn't make it much of a society worth having. So for Berserker thee ends do not justify the means. He would not kill one little child to save billions. He will not sacrifice millions to save a race.