World war hulk

Started by ExodusCloak209 pages

I'm a bit peeved with the whole issue, it seems like everyone and their grandmother has "resistance" to telepathy...best part is Xavier is stronger then he's ever been. Thank god Xavier didn't use Cerebra.

Two things that bugged me...how the hell did Blackbolt tell the Hulk about Xavier. Crayons and Paper?

BTW Is Emma in Diamond Form at the end? Her diamond form makes her immune to telepathy so that little mental feedback thing at the end shouldn't have done anything to her.

Apart from that, I suppose it could have been worse...

I just re-read the ending of Planet Hulk, and I have to say that it all makes a lot more sense to me now.

But, I still say that Miek is behind all of this

Originally posted by Disappear
x-23's also only got adamantium on her claws, so she wouldn't really contribute much.

there are plenty of super-strong characters out there who don't turn into crybabies every time something bad happens to them. hulk's greatest moments, as i see them, were when a writer actually delved into the character instead of hiding him behind this bleak mask of smashing crap and being an idiot.

here's the basic plot to world war hulk, from the hulk's point of view.
"i was running around, killing people and causing massive structural damage to buildings and general city infrastructure, so a group of my peers, all of whom i have long-standing relationships with, decided it would be best if i wasn't running around threatening people's lives anymore. assholes, right? so they decide to trap me in a ship and attempt to give me the very thing i've been asking for ever since i became the hulk; to be left alone. they scope out a nice planet for me, and send me on my way. but, oh no, i get sucked into a wormhole they couldn't have predicted and which i know for a fact is powerful enough to even draw in the silver surfer. puny humans must've planned this shit. so then i'm on a world and it's explained that i can be injured due to having travelled through the wormhole, but i will consistently blame the humans for putting me here. so i become king or whatever, marry and sex up a girl who originally wanted to kill me, and then the ship i came in blew up. ****in' humans. always trying to take away what i have, and if you weren't paying attention, what i have usually turns out to be homocidal tendencies. so anyway, now i'm heading back to earth with people i've continuously referred to as "not friends," but whatever, and we're gonna kill everybody because a few guys tried to help. i'm clearly the only guy who has ever lost someone that was close to me, so my rage is unprecedented and incomprehensible to these little humans. i plan to smash, because despite my ability to think rationally in hulk form, i'm really not good for anything besides big action scenes and shock value in big events like this."

if i was spending money to read this crap, i'd stop.

Agreed.

Like I was saying earlier, what the hell makes all of Hulk's losses so original? Wolverine's lost tons more, Daredevil's been through some rough shit, so has Spider-man.

Xavier's own son went back in time and raped his mother. Creepy much? Every god damn X-man and x-women has lost someone dear to them, bottom line is they're just more mature than Hulk. Who can honestly agree with the way he's dealing with things?

If he's so intelligent, he'd realize that strength is how the primates and neanderthals deal.

If Hulk's so incredibly smart, then he should realize that tampering with the god damn ship wasn't such a good idea. Now he's a class million baby who picked up TP resistance and a jobber aura at the market, and is trying to take out his anger on someone who tried to help him.

Originally posted by Martian_mind
I still wanna know why exactly Iron Man went in alone against him.I mean for christ sake...

Probably cause 'winning' civil war and having the extremis armour went to his head and he think's he's greased lightning. 💃

Originally posted by GGS
Probably cause 'winning' civil war and having the extremis armour went to his head and he think's he's greased lightning. 💃

You'd think extremis Iron Man would find a better way to fight him.

Originally posted by llagrok
Agreed.

Like I was saying earlier, what the hell makes all of Hulk's losses so original? Wolverine's lost tons more, Daredevil's been through some rough shit, so has Spider-man.

Xavier's own son went back in time and raped his mother. Creepy much? Every god damn X-man and x-women has lost someone dear to them, bottom line is they're just more mature than Hulk. Who can honestly agree with the way he's dealing with things?

🤨

How many of them: Saved the entire population of a world from tyrany and genocide? United every sentient being on the planet into a peaceful society where former foes watched each others kids? Stopped a mad man from destroying the entire planet? Psychically reunited the survivors of a war with the ones they lost?

And then after all that had to watch it taken away after not only his wife die but every other living creature on the plant that he ruled be vaporised by a bomb that was accidentaly set off by kids?

Yeah . . . the Xmen can tottally compare with that kind of loss 🙄

Originally posted by llagrok
If he's so intelligent, he'd realize that strength is how the primates and neanderthals deal.

He's the ****ing Hulk dude.

Originally posted by llagrok
If Hulk's so incredibly smart, then he should realize that tampering with the god damn ship wasn't such a good idea. Now he's a class million baby who picked up TP resistance and a jobber aura at the market, and is trying to take out his anger on someone who tried to help him.

Hulk has about normal intellect at this point and he's still Hulk so he's still blinded by rage.

TP resistance has always been part of him and so far there's only been one real case of jobbing IMO.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Two things that bugged me...how the hell did Blackbolt tell the Hulk about Xavier. Crayons and Paper?
That's what I was wondering too, but I didn't want to bring it up, in case someone twisted it around into Hulk taking Black Bolt talking to him...

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
That's what I was wondering too, but I didn't want to bring it up, in case someone twisted it around into Hulk taking Black Bolt talking to him...

Or maybe the ship has uber tech on it 😖hifty:

Saved an entire population? please.

Because of him the leaders started a genocide and unleashed the spikes upon the population, killing countless of people. Also, wasn't it the brood and Miek that started tampering with Hulk's ship? and he smashed it and then it exploded. Coincidence?

Hulk only cared about his chick and his warbound, how many of those did he lost? not too many.

There are people who have lost far more and handle it in far better ways. Don't try to sugar coat it, he's acting like a baby.

Originally posted by llagrok
Saved an entire population? please.

Because of him the leaders started a genocide and unleashed the spikes upon the population, killing countless of people.

The guy did that anyway in order to maintain a position of power it's als the reason the RedKing let the wild bots rampage around killing people. Hulk saved the entire Spike species as well.

Originally posted by llagrok
Also, wasn't it the brood and Miek that started tampering with Hulk's ship? and he smashed it and then it exploded. Coincidence?

Uh . . . no. A bunch of kids were having fun on the ship because it seemed harmless. Then it caused a breach that killed everyone on the planet.

Originally posted by llagrok
Hulk only cared about his chick and his warbound, how many of those did he lost? not too many.

Right, he fought a war and united a planet for no reason at all?

Hulk was deeply invested in the welfare of that planet.

Originally posted by llagrok
There are people who have lost far more and handle it in far better ways.

How many people in comics had to watch their entire planet die in fire for no reason?

Originally posted by llagrok
Don't try to sugar coat it, he's acting like a baby.

Babies don't plot genocide.

the x-men repeatedly played parts in uniting entire galactic civilizations. i doubt the red king was nearly as depraved as d'ken. also, didn't hulk bring his people together post-coronation by threatening to beat them up if they didn't?

all in all, he was on that world for a year, tops. i'd say closer to a few months. that's hardly the same kind of emotional connections many of the x-men have. as said before, wolverine's repeatedly been forced to kill or mercy kill women he's loved far longer than hulk even knew his wife. scott's long-time girlfriend/wife turned into a genocidal force of nature, and died time and again. scott had to sacrifice his own son into an unknown future because someone plotted to kill him from the time he was born. but hulk's wife, with whom he spent comparatively little time, and who had spent much of that trying to kill him, dies because his own subjects blow up his ship, and it's an unprecedented tragedy.

he's a crybaby.

Yeah yeah, Hulk really cared about that planet. Keep telling yourself that.

Die in a fire for no reason? Let me ask you this. Why was he on that planet? did he have NOTHING to do with it? His anger is poorly directed, there are plenty of people to blame. If you wanna blame the illuminati for sending Hulk out there, go ahead. Just stop and try to think why they did it.

I have a feeling that ship wouldn't have blown up if they had stayed the hell away from it, or if he hadn't tried to smash it when the wormhole got him.

Originally posted by llagrok
I have a feeling that ship wouldn't have blown up if they had stayed the hell away from it, or if he hadn't tried to smash it when the wormhole got him.

or if he hadn't tried to use it as a weapon as soon as he got to the planet.

Originally posted by Disappear
or if he hadn't tried to use it as a weapon as soon as he got to the planet.

But he can't be held responsible for anything, he's the Hulk.

duh

Originally posted by Disappear
the x-men repeatedly played parts in uniting entire galactic civilizations. i doubt the red king was nearly as depraved as d'ken. also, didn't hulk bring his people together post-coronation by threatening to beat them up if they didn't?

The Xmen have united plenty of civilizations but you missed the end of that. Everything Hulk had accomplished was suddenly destroyed for no reason at all, how many times has that happened to the Xmen on a planetary scale?

He wasn't threatening to beat them up. He was telling them that they shouldn't take agression out on eachother.

Originally posted by Disappear
all in all, he was on that world for a year, tops. i'd say closer to a few months. that's hardly the same kind of emotional connections many of the x-men have. as said before, wolverine's repeatedly been forced to kill or mercy kill women he's loved far longer than hulk even knew his wife. scott's long-time girlfriend/wife turned into a genocidal force of nature, and died time and again. scott had to sacrifice his own son into an unknown future because someone plotted to kill him from the time he was born. but hulk's wife, with whom he spent comparatively little time, and who had spent much of that trying to kill him, dies because his own subjects blow up his ship, and it's an unprecedented tragedy.

So Scott and Logan have had some tough shit happen in their lives with a couple individuals. Hulk lost a planet worth of people (and don't bring up Superman since he didn't have to watch it happen). One year is plenty of time to develop a strong emotional connection especially for someone like Hulk who exists primaraly for emotion.

I will give you the thing about his wife though.

Hulk's subjects didn't blow up the ship. There was even a recorded message from Reed that explained exactly what was happening. The ship was a bomb from the get go.

Originally posted by Disappear
he's a crybaby.

He's the Hulk and his character is being played down in order to play up his power 😬

So Scott and Logan have had some tough shit happen in their lives with a couple individuals. Hulk lost a planet worth of people (and don't bring up Superman since he didn't have to watch it happen). One year is plenty of time to develop a strong emotional connection especially for someone like Hulk who exists primaraly for emotion.

I will give you the thing about his wife though.

Hulk's subjects didn't blow up the ship. There was even a recorded message from Reed that explained exactly what was happening. The ship was a bomb from the get go.

I highly doubt Hulk suddenly made attachments with the people, seeing as he was ready to put them into the pit against each other. You saw the Miek/red kid incident.

Or when he was ready to finish off Miek simply because he lashed out after having watched his bug queen die. He's a real compassionate guy alright.

Cassandra Nova killed MANY, MANY, MANY more Shi'ar and Mutants than people on the Sakaar planet.

Originally posted by llagrok
I highly doubt Hulk suddenly made attachments with the people, seeing as he was ready to put them into the pit against each other. You saw the Miek/red kid incident.

You clearly missed what he actually did in the arena 🙂

Originally posted by llagrok
Or when he was ready to finish off Miek simply because he lashed out after having watched his bug queen die. He's a real compassionate guy alright.

I never said he was compassionate dumbass. I just said that he can and does form emotional attachments.

Thats why he fought to free a planet 😉

Originally posted by llagrok
Cassandra Nova killed MANY, MANY, MANY more Shi'ar and Mutants than people on the Sakaar planet.

People that the Xmen had spent a year fighting to save against all odds?

Let's see.

Have the x-men ever fought to save mutants ad the Shi'ar?

Don't call me dumbass, dumbass.

Originally posted by llagrok
Let's see.

Have the x-men ever fought to save mutants ad the Shi'ar?

A year doing nothing but work to save them? And I mean nothing else.

Did CassandraNova kill every single mutant and Shi'ar? Did they unite anything into an idyllic world?

Originally posted by llagrok
Don't call me dumbass, dumbass.

Very well ****tard 😉