Originally posted by Sparkz
Hmmm this thread is reminding me of when people make power level charts for DBZ...no one ever agree's on those either lol
Thank you. I thought I was the only one who thought of DBZ power levels when reading all these numbers. I still remember the days of feverishly searching the net for the most accurate power level charts. haermm
Originally posted by masterbruceInstead of focusing on the rest of your list, I'll just focus on this statement.
For Superman, I based it on his All Star form. All Star Superman easily lifted 200 quintillion (18 zeros) tons, so I just put regular Superman at about 1 quintillion ton, so 200x weaker than All Star form.Is my logic or reasoning flawed?
All-Star Supes (after sunning), was said to be at least 3x's stronger then he was at his normal power.
Now even though we don't know how powerful his base was, if we say the mainstream DC Superman has 1/3 the strength of All-Star Supes...
Then normal Supes could/can lift roughly 67 quintillion tons!!! evillaugh
So if you're basing those figures off of All-Star Supes, then that's what the numbers should be.... haermm
Originally posted by Galan007
Instead of focusing on the rest of your list, I'll just focus on this statement.All-Star Supes (after sunning), was said to be at least 3x's stronger then he was at his normal power.
Now even though we don't know how powerful his base was, if we say the mainstream DC Superman has 1/3 the strength of All-Star Supes...
Then normal Supes could/can lift roughly 67 quintillion tons!!! evillaugh
So if you're basing those figures off of All-Star Supes, then that's what the numbers should be.... haermm
All Star was three times stronger before he had the pseudo-sun-dip.
But All-Star pre-pseudo-sun-dip wasn't necessarily as weak/strong as mainstream Superman. They aren't the same character. Case in point - mainstream Clark's sundipped with no ill effects.
My opinion on the topic from the Superman vs. Thor thread.
Originally posted by His Airness
Their both, along with Hercules, Gladiator, Black Adam, Hulk, Juggernaut, in the planetary lv strength range. Placing a gauge on their strength would be impossible as they all have impressive feats.Change known to "I think". Even so that isn't an impressive range to be placed in when considering the more impressive feats of the characters mentioned above.
200 quintillion tons is less than 1/20 of the earths mass. Far from Superman's most impressive feat.
Don't know.
Originally posted by masterbruce
okay, from the posts here, it seems that everyone agrees at least thatSuperman is AT LEAST over a thousand times stronger than Thor, yet no one bats an eye when people say Thor can hold his own against Superman...why?
Because it debateable who's the strongest. And Thor has more fire power.
Originally posted by ankur29
Darkseid (950,000,000,000,000,000 tons)Sentry (400 tons as least but im quite sure he is as strong as thor, hercules or hulk maybe even more but there have not been enough showings of him)
Huggeranut (200 tons)
Thanos (500 tons)
Spider-Man (35 Tons)
QFT.
31
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Also, wtf is a "Huggeranut" and why isn't he at least a Kasplosion Tons?!
Hulk is #1 in strenght department, don't care what dc fanboys think
(strenght feat from Planet Hulk)
Estimate figures lean towards the conservative side. Hulk feat may actually be greater. But here's what I've come up with.
I'm thinking the 12,150 equatorial diameter is in kilometers rather than miles. Which would convert to 7550 miles which is slightly smaller than Earth (7926 miles).
The Earth weighs approximately 5.972 sextillion tons. Sakaar would weigh approximately 5.7 sextillion tons.
The Layers of the planet are:
Crust. Upper Mantle. Mantle. Outer Core. Inner Core.
The upper crust is "typically 25 miles thick". And on earth there are 7 MAJOR tectonic plates. Let's assume the Crust of a planet weighs an 8th of the total weight of a planet. And that the Plates equal 1/5 the weight of the Upper crust. And then assuming each Major plate is equal in weight.
Giving Sakaar 10 Major plates (3 more than earth). Each plate would represent 14.24 quintillion tons. So holding the 2 together would equal 28.48 quintillion tons.
I think this is the basement amount feat that Hulk performed. Again, it could be even greater.
Originally posted by miraclethree
Hulk is #1 in strenght department, don't care what dc fanboys think(strenght feat from Planet Hulk)
Estimate figures lean towards the conservative side. Hulk feat may actually be greater. But here's what I've come up with.
I'm thinking the 12,150 equatorial diameter is in kilometers rather than miles. Which would convert to 7550 miles which is slightly smaller than Earth (7926 miles).
The Earth weighs approximately 5.972 sextillion tons. Sakaar would weigh approximately 5.7 sextillion tons.
The Layers of the planet are:
Crust. Upper Mantle. Mantle. Outer Core. Inner Core.The upper crust is "typically 25 miles thick". And on earth there are 7 MAJOR tectonic plates. Let's assume the Crust of a planet weighs an 8th of the total weight of a planet. And that the Plates equal 1/5 the weight of the Upper crust. And then assuming each Major plate is equal in weight.
Giving Sakaar 10 Major plates (3 more than earth). Each plate would represent 14.24 quintillion tons. So holding the 2 together would equal 28.48 quintillion tons.
I think this is the basement amount feat that Hulk performed. Again, it could be even greater.
Yes that's nice. It's not a feat or anything (more like a list of stats about a planet) but still nice.
Originally posted by miraclethree
Hulk is #1 in strenght department, don't care what dc fanboys think(strenght feat from Planet Hulk)
Estimate figures lean towards the conservative side. Hulk feat may actually be greater. But here's what I've come up with.
I'm thinking the 12,150 equatorial diameter is in kilometers rather than miles. Which would convert to 7550 miles which is slightly smaller than Earth (7926 miles).
The Earth weighs approximately 5.972 sextillion tons. Sakaar would weigh approximately 5.7 sextillion tons.
The Layers of the planet are:
Crust. Upper Mantle. Mantle. Outer Core. Inner Core.The upper crust is "typically 25 miles thick". And on earth there are 7 MAJOR tectonic plates. Let's assume the Crust of a planet weighs an 8th of the total weight of a planet. And that the Plates equal 1/5 the weight of the Upper crust. And then assuming each Major plate is equal in weight.
Giving Sakaar 10 Major plates (3 more than earth). Each plate would represent 14.24 quintillion tons. So holding the 2 together would equal 28.48 quintillion tons.
I think this is the basement amount feat that Hulk performed. Again, it could be even greater.
Well your not X Meat. ermm
Originally posted by Soljer❌
All Star was three times stronger before he had the pseudo-sun-dip.
All-Star Supes was only confirmed as at least 3 times stronger then he previously was, after his sun-dip. 😬
Originally posted by SoljerErrr, I never once said they were the same character... 😕
But All-Star pre-pseudo-sun-dip wasn't necessarily as weak/strong as mainstream Superman. They aren't the same character.
I just said that if masterbruce was going to try and use All-Star Superman's stats to guage mainstream Superman's strength, then the figure I gave would have been 'more' accurate.
T'was just my opinion though. 😉
Originally posted by SoljerWhich instance though?
Case in point - mainstream Clark's sundipped with no ill effects.
DC 1M doesn't really count, and that was the only "true" sundip I can think of.
Originally posted by DigiMark007
See, you'll have 1 person use your logic to get 250 for Thor, and another will post the Midgard Serpent fight and put him at probably a few hundred Billion tons.No one will agree. So good luck and all, but don't expect justifiable results.
In all fairness this was actually done in Marvel Universe once.
Originally posted by Galan007
❌All-Star Supes was only confirmed as at least 3 times stronger then he previously was, after his sun-dip. 😬
Errr, I never once said they were the same character... 😕I just said that if masterbruce was going to try and use All-Star Superman's stats to guage mainstream Superman's strength, then the figure I gave would have been 'more' accurate.
I misspoke (mistyped?) I meant that All star was still all star before the sun-dip, since they are different continuities. All star pre sundip isn't mainstream, you know? We don't know whether he was stronger, weaker, or even in the same ballpark as regular Clark at that point.
All-star could have ALREADY been a hundred times as strong as Superman. Or, hell, he could only have been a tenth as strong as him. We really don't know.
Originally posted by SoljerWell after the sundip, Superman was confirmed as at least 3x stronger than before, as he lifted 200 quintillion tons...
I misspoke (mistyped?) I meant that All star was still all star before the sun-dip, since they are different continuities. All star pre sundip isn't mainstream, you know? We don't know whether he was stronger, weaker, or even in the same ballpark as regular Clark at that point.All-star could have ALREADY been a hundred times as strong as Superman. Or, hell, he could only have been a tenth as strong as him. We really don't know.
So if we take that statement literally, then All-Star Superman could have lifted roughly 67 quintillion tons before he sundipped, (200 quintillion tons/3 = 66.66666 quintillion tons).
However, there are no feat(s) confirming this, I'm just going by what was specifically stated.