Perhaps, instead of looking at how much weight a character can push around (lift/press/etc.), period, we should look at how much they can do without straining.
For instance -- Hulk held up an entire mountain during Secret Wars, but had to push himself almost to the limit to do so.
Superman has pushed planets, stars, etc. out of orbit -- but can he do so with ease?
I think this would give a far more equitable hierarchy for the Class 100 characters...although I still think that perhaps a Class 1000 (or higher) might be in order for some of the higher-level powerhouses...
Another thing to consider is that the vaster a character's strength is, the less fine motor control they are likely to have.
Therefore, if Superman can regularly lift/press/move 100,000,000,000,000,000,000 tons, does that mean that by trying to press an elevator button he shatters the building?
Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Galactus is in the CL3000 class and Celestial's in the CL5000 class.
CL is supose to be something beyond numbers, CL1 is more than infinity but less than CL2.
Not sure where you're going with that, but as I recall weren't those designations (CL3000, CL5000) from the old Marvel Super Heroes RPG?
Perhaps these forums should adopt them as an extra set of standards for powerful characters...
Re: The Official Strength Hierarchy for Class 100 Characters
Originally posted by masterbruce
Can we get a ranking and estimate system for Class 100 characters?Just a rough start (obviously based on very rough estimates)
Superman (1,000,000,000,000,000,000 tons)
Hulk (enraged) - (1,500,000,000 tons)
Hercules (250 tons)
Thor (250 tons)
Abomination (300 tons)
Hulk (base level) - (150 tons)
Iron Man (120 tons)
Namor (110 tons)
Thing (100 tons)
Just correct whichever characters' strength you think is wrong and add more Class 100 characters. Please don't spam with unrelated stuff, thank you in advance.
🤨 is this ^, this is not f**king DBZ.
CLass 100 or 7/7 means that hulk is 7/7 is on a lower scale, then let's say LT who is also 7/7.
Superman, Gladiator, Thor, Hulk, Orion, Orion, Black Adam , Captain Marvel, Silver Surfer etc are all class 100 some mite be stronger than others. Tyrant, Mangog, Destroyer, etc are class 100 but are on another teir, even though they are have the same rating doesn't mean they are equals, it's common sense.
Re: Re: The Official Strength Hierarchy for Class 100 Characters
Originally posted by the Darkone
🤨 is this ^, this is not f**king DBZ.CLass 100 or 7/7 means that hulk is 7/7 is on a lower scale, then let's say LT who is also 7/7.
Superman, Gladiator, Thor, Hulk, Orion, Orion, Black Adam , Captain Marvel, Silver Surfer etc are all class 100 some mite be stronger than others. Tyrant, Mangog, Destroyer, etc are class 100 but are on another teir, even though they are have the same rating doesn't mean they are equals, it's common sense.
then doesn't that make the Class 100 classification meaningless?
DBZ power levels:
Battle with Raditz
Raditz – 1,220
Farmer – 5
Piccolo – 322
Son Goku – 334
Kuririn – 206
Master Roshi – 139
Son Gohan - 710
Son Goku – 416
Piccolo – 408
Son Goku [Kamehameha] – 1,080
Piccolo [Special Beam Cannon] – 1,330
Gohan – 1,307
Piccolo [Special Beam Cannon] – 1,440
Tenshinhan – 250
Yamcha – 177
Chaozu – 145
Battle with Nappa
Saibamen – 1,220
Kuririn – 1,083
Gohan – 981
Piccolo – 1,220
Yamcha – 1,450
Kuririn – 1,600
Nappa – 4,000
Tenshinhan – 1,750
Tenshinhan [Kikoho] – 2,500
Piccolo – 2,000
Gohan – 1,500
Gohan [Masenko] – 2,800
Son Goku – 8,000
Nappa – 7,800
Son Goku [Kaioken] – 16,000
Battle with Vegeta
Son Goku – 8,000
Vegeta – 18,000
Son Goku [Kaioken x2] – 16,000
Son Goku [Kaioken x3] – 24,000
Vegeta [Gyarikku-Ho] – 41,000
Son Goku [Kaioken x3 & Kamehameha] – 41,000
Son Goku [Kaioken x4 & Kamehameha] – 49,000
Vegeta – 12,800
Great Vegeta – 100,000
Gohan – 1,500
Kuririn – 1,600
Vegeta – 9,000
Gohan – 2,500
Genki Dama – 8,200
Vegeta – 800
Great Gohan – 7,000
Battle with Freeza’s Henchmen
Namekian Warriors – 1,000
Namekian Warriors – 3,000
Gohan – 1,500
Kuririn – 1,500
Kiwi – 18,000
Vegeta – 24,000
Dodoria – 20,000
Zarbon – 22,000
Monster Zarbon – 27,000
Vegeta – 28,000
Battle with the Ginyu Force
Gohan – 16,000
Kuririn – 14,000
Guldo – 140
Vegeta – 28,000
Reacoom – 40,000
Volume 8
Reacoom - 40,000
Son Gohan - 11,500
Kuririn - 10,500
Son Goku - 5,000 (Could burst his power up to 10fold Kaioken when necessary)
Jheese - 40,000
Butta - 40,000
Son Goku - 90,000
Captain Ginyu - 120,000
Son Goku [Kaioken] - 180,000
Volume 9
Ginyu in Goku - 23,000
Kuririn - 24,500
Gohan - 27,000
Jheese - 40,000
Vegeta - 260,000
Nail - 42,000
Freeza - 220,000 (Holding back from full power)
Vegeta - 340,000
Freeza - 400,000 (Powered up)
Freeza - 530,000 (Full Power)
Freeza - 1,060,000 (2nd Form)
Gohan - 1,100,000
Kuririn - 37,000
Freeza - 1,400,000 (Powered up)
Piccolo - 1,500,000
Volume 10
Freeza - 1,700,000 (Full Power)
Piccolo - 1,850,000 (Full Power)
Freeza - 2,300,000 (Form 3)
Gohan - 2,000,000 (Enraged)
Freeza - 3,500,000 (True Form)
Vegeta - 2,500,000
Son Goku - 3,300,000
Freeza - 6,000,000 (50%)
Son Goku [Kaioken x20] - 6,600,000
Son Goku [Kamehameha] - 5,500,000
Volume 11
Piccolo - 2,800,000
Genki Dama - 8,000,000
Super Goku - 11,500,000
Freeza - 8,400,000 (70%)
Freeza - 12,000,000 (100%)
Freeza - 10,000,000 (Battle Worn)
Volume 12
Cyborg Freeza - 6,500,000
King Cold - 4,800,000
Trunks - 5 (Supressed)
Super Trunks - 11,500,000
Super Goku - 13,500,000
Volume 13
Yamcha - 58,000
Nineteen - 4,000,000
Super Goku - 7,500,000
Nineteen - 7,000,000 (Post-Kamehameha)
Super Goku - 6,000,000
Super Vegeta - 16,500,000
Nineteen - 8,500,000
Super Vegeta [Big Bang Attack] - 14,000,000
Super Vegeta - 9,000,000 (After Defeating Nineteen)
Twenty - 10,000,000
Piccolo - 13,000,000
Volume 14
Eighteen - 23,000,000
Super Vegeta - 16,500,000
Super Trunks - 14,000,000
Piccolo - 13,000,000
Tenshinhan - 950,000
Seventeen - 28,000,000
Cell - 15,000,000
Piccolo - 22,000,000
Volume 15
Seventeen - 28,000,000
Piccolo - 28,000,000
Cell - 34,000,000
Sixteen - 34,000,000
Imperfect Cell - 47,000,000
Volume 16
Ultra Vegeta - 62,000,000
Ultra Trunks - 60,000,000
Perfect Cell - 90,000,000
Ultra Vegeta [Final Flash] - 125,000,000
Volume 17
Ultra Trunks 2 - 85,000,000
Perfect Cell - 90,000,000
Ultra Trunks 2 - 120,000,000 (Full Power)
Super Goku - 65,000,000
Mister Satan - 8
Volume 18
Full Power Super Goku - 140,000,000
Perfect Cell - 145,000,000
Super Goku [Warp Kamehameha] - 190,000,000
Full Power Super Gohan - 150,000,000
Perfect Cell - 165,000,000
Cell Juniors - 145,000,000
Ultra Vegeta - 125,000,000
Ultra Trunks - 115,000,000
Piccolo - 78,000,000
Super Gohan 2 - 300,000,000
Volume 19
Super Gohan 2 - 300,000,000
Cell Juniors - 145,000,000
Full Power Perfect Cell - 180,000,000
Buff Perfect Cell - 220,000,000
Imperfect Cell - 47,000,000
Super Perfect Cell - 225,000,000
Super Gohan 2 - 200,000,000 (Injured)
Super Perfect Cell [Kamehameha] - 350,000,000
Super Gohan 2 [Kamehameha] - 345,000,000
Great Saiyaman
Super Gohan - 78,000,000
Great Saiyaman - 19,500,000
Videl - 8
Super Goten - 67,000,000
World Tournament
Son Goten - 17,500,000
Trunks Briefs - 20,000,000
Super Goten - 70,000,000
Super Trunks - 80,000,000
Kuririn - 2,300,000
Piccolo - 16,000,000
Kaioshin - 45,000,000
Videl - 9
Spopovich - 16
Gohan - 25,000,000
Super Gohan - 100,000,000
Super Gohan 2 - 200,000,000
Kibito - 35,000,000
Babidi's Spaceship
Vegeta - 70,000,000
Pui Pui - 6,000,000
Yakon - 48,000,000
Son Goku - 60,000,000
Super Goku - 180,000,000
Dabura - 250,000,000
Super Gohan 2 - 250,000,000
Majin Vegeta - 360,000,000
Super Goku 2 - 360,000,000
The Hatching
Majin Buu - 600,000,000
Super Gohan 2 - 250,000,000
Dabura - 170,000,000 (Injured)
Kaioshin - 45,000,000
Majin Vegeta - 360,000,000
Majin Vegeta [Final Explosion] - 800,000,000
Super Goku 3 - 1,080,000,000
Majin Buu - 850,000,000
Gotenks - 400,000,000
Majin Buu - 1,000,000,000
Super Gotenks - 1,200,000,000
Fusion
Evil Buu - 720,000,000
Mister Buu - 400,000,000
Super Buu - 4,000,000,000
Gotenks - 500,000,000
Super Gotenks - 1,500,000,000
Super Gotenks 3 - 4,500,000,000
Son Gohan - 5,200,000,000
Super Buu Gotenks - 6,000,000,000
Super Buu Piccolo - 4,050,000,000
Super Buu Gohan - 6,700,000,000
Vegito - 26,000,000,000
Evil Kid Buu
Super Buu - 4,000,000,000
Buff Buu - 4,600,000,000
Kid Buu - 720,000,000
Super Goku 3 - 720,000,000
Super Vegeta 2 - 280,000,000
Mister Buu - 400,000,000
Genki Dama - 22,000,000,000
Son Goku - 90,000,000
Uub - 12 (Relaxed)
Uub - 85,000,000 (Enraged)
You can't list characters in an individual hierarchy. No one will ever come to consensus about Thor being stronger than Superman or Superman being stronger than Thor, because everyone has their own biases. Cl100 can be divided into subcategories though, and people can come to the agreement that Thor and Superman are in the same subdivision I would assume.
Originally posted by Priest
DBZ power levels:
Battle with Raditz
Raditz – 1,220
Farmer – 5Piccolo – 322
Son Goku – 334
Kuririn – 206
Master Roshi – 139Son Gohan - 710
Son Goku – 416
Piccolo – 408Son Goku [Kamehameha] – 1,080
Piccolo [Special Beam Cannon] – 1,330Gohan – 1,307
Piccolo [Special Beam Cannon] – 1,440Tenshinhan – 250
Yamcha – 177
Chaozu – 145Battle with Nappa
Saibamen – 1,220
Kuririn – 1,083
Gohan – 981
Piccolo – 1,220Yamcha – 1,450
Kuririn – 1,600Nappa – 4,000
Tenshinhan – 1,750Tenshinhan [Kikoho] – 2,500
Piccolo – 2,000
Gohan – 1,500
Gohan [Masenko] – 2,800Son Goku – 8,000
Nappa – 7,800Son Goku [Kaioken] – 16,000
Battle with Vegeta
Son Goku – 8,000
Vegeta – 18,000Son Goku [Kaioken x2] – 16,000
Son Goku [Kaioken x3] – 24,000Vegeta [Gyarikku-Ho] – 41,000
Son Goku [Kaioken x3 & Kamehameha] – 41,000Son Goku [Kaioken x4 & Kamehameha] – 49,000
Vegeta – 12,800
Great Vegeta – 100,000Gohan – 1,500
Kuririn – 1,600Vegeta – 9,000
Gohan – 2,500Genki Dama – 8,200
Vegeta – 800
Great Gohan – 7,000Battle with Freeza’s Henchmen
Namekian Warriors – 1,000
Namekian Warriors – 3,000Gohan – 1,500
Kuririn – 1,500Kiwi – 18,000
Vegeta – 24,000Dodoria – 20,000
Zarbon – 22,000
Monster Zarbon – 27,000Vegeta – 28,000
Battle with the Ginyu Force
Gohan – 16,000
Kuririn – 14,000Guldo – 140
Vegeta – 28,000
Reacoom – 40,000Volume 8
Reacoom - 40,000
Son Gohan - 11,500
Kuririn - 10,500Son Goku - 5,000 (Could burst his power up to 10fold Kaioken when necessary)
Jheese - 40,000
Butta - 40,000Son Goku - 90,000
Captain Ginyu - 120,000
Son Goku [Kaioken] - 180,000Volume 9
Ginyu in Goku - 23,000
Kuririn - 24,500
Gohan - 27,000Jheese - 40,000
Vegeta - 260,000Nail - 42,000
Freeza - 220,000 (Holding back from full power)Vegeta - 340,000
Freeza - 400,000 (Powered up)Freeza - 530,000 (Full Power)
Freeza - 1,060,000 (2nd Form)Gohan - 1,100,000
Kuririn - 37,000Freeza - 1,400,000 (Powered up)
Piccolo - 1,500,000Volume 10
Freeza - 1,700,000 (Full Power)
Piccolo - 1,850,000 (Full Power)Freeza - 2,300,000 (Form 3)
Gohan - 2,000,000 (Enraged)Freeza - 3,500,000 (True Form)
Vegeta - 2,500,000Son Goku - 3,300,000
Freeza - 6,000,000 (50%)
Son Goku [Kaioken x20] - 6,600,000Son Goku [Kamehameha] - 5,500,000
Volume 11
Piccolo - 2,800,000
Genki Dama - 8,000,000Super Goku - 11,500,000
Freeza - 8,400,000 (70%)
Freeza - 12,000,000 (100%)Freeza - 10,000,000 (Battle Worn)
Volume 12
Cyborg Freeza - 6,500,000
King Cold - 4,800,000Trunks - 5 (Supressed)
Super Trunks - 11,500,000Super Goku - 13,500,000
Volume 13
Yamcha - 58,000Nineteen - 4,000,000
Super Goku - 7,500,000Nineteen - 7,000,000 (Post-Kamehameha)
Super Goku - 6,000,000Super Vegeta - 16,500,000
Nineteen - 8,500,000Super Vegeta [Big Bang Attack] - 14,000,000
Super Vegeta - 9,000,000 (After Defeating Nineteen)Twenty - 10,000,000
Piccolo - 13,000,000Volume 14
Eighteen - 23,000,000
Super Vegeta - 16,500,000Super Trunks - 14,000,000
Piccolo - 13,000,000
Tenshinhan - 950,000
Seventeen - 28,000,000Cell - 15,000,000
Piccolo - 22,000,000Volume 15
Seventeen - 28,000,000
Piccolo - 28,000,000Cell - 34,000,000
Sixteen - 34,000,000Imperfect Cell - 47,000,000
Volume 16
Ultra Vegeta - 62,000,000
Ultra Trunks - 60,000,000Perfect Cell - 90,000,000
Ultra Vegeta [Final Flash] - 125,000,000Volume 17
Ultra Trunks 2 - 85,000,000
Perfect Cell - 90,000,000
Ultra Trunks 2 - 120,000,000 (Full Power)Super Goku - 65,000,000
Mister Satan - 8
Volume 18
Full Power Super Goku - 140,000,000
Perfect Cell - 145,000,000Super Goku [Warp Kamehameha] - 190,000,000
Full Power Super Gohan - 150,000,000
Perfect Cell - 165,000,000Cell Juniors - 145,000,000
Ultra Vegeta - 125,000,000
Ultra Trunks - 115,000,000
Piccolo - 78,000,000Super Gohan 2 - 300,000,000
Volume 19
Super Gohan 2 - 300,000,000
Cell Juniors - 145,000,000Full Power Perfect Cell - 180,000,000
Buff Perfect Cell - 220,000,000
Imperfect Cell - 47,000,000Super Perfect Cell - 225,000,000
Super Gohan 2 - 200,000,000 (Injured)Super Perfect Cell [Kamehameha] - 350,000,000
Super Gohan 2 [Kamehameha] - 345,000,000Great Saiyaman
Super Gohan - 78,000,000
Great Saiyaman - 19,500,000Videl - 8
Super Goten - 67,000,000
World Tournament
Son Goten - 17,500,000
Trunks Briefs - 20,000,000Super Goten - 70,000,000
Super Trunks - 80,000,000Kuririn - 2,300,000
Piccolo - 16,000,000
Kaioshin - 45,000,000Videl - 9
Spopovich - 16Gohan - 25,000,000
Super Gohan - 100,000,000
Super Gohan 2 - 200,000,000Kibito - 35,000,000
Babidi's Spaceship
Vegeta - 70,000,000
Pui Pui - 6,000,000Yakon - 48,000,000
Son Goku - 60,000,000
Super Goku - 180,000,000Dabura - 250,000,000
Super Gohan 2 - 250,000,000Majin Vegeta - 360,000,000
Super Goku 2 - 360,000,000The Hatching
Majin Buu - 600,000,000Super Gohan 2 - 250,000,000
Dabura - 170,000,000 (Injured)
Kaioshin - 45,000,000
Majin Vegeta - 360,000,000Majin Vegeta [Final Explosion] - 800,000,000
Super Goku 3 - 1,080,000,000
Majin Buu - 850,000,000Gotenks - 400,000,000
Majin Buu - 1,000,000,000Super Gotenks - 1,200,000,000
Fusion
Evil Buu - 720,000,000
Mister Buu - 400,000,000Super Buu - 4,000,000,000
Gotenks - 500,000,000
Super Gotenks - 1,500,000,000
Super Gotenks 3 - 4,500,000,000Son Gohan - 5,200,000,000
Super Buu Gotenks - 6,000,000,000
Super Buu Piccolo - 4,050,000,000
Super Buu Gohan - 6,700,000,000Vegito - 26,000,000,000
Evil Kid Buu
Super Buu - 4,000,000,000
Buff Buu - 4,600,000,000
Kid Buu - 720,000,000Super Goku 3 - 720,000,000
Super Vegeta 2 - 280,000,000
Mister Buu - 400,000,000Genki Dama - 22,000,000,000
Son Goku - 90,000,000
Uub - 12 (Relaxed)
Uub - 85,000,000 (Enraged)
*pulls out a HellsingARMS.454CasullAuto and and kills Priest*