The Official Strength Hierarchy for Class 100 Characters

Started by Soljer5 pages

Originally posted by Galan007
Well after the sundip, Superman was confirmed as at least 3x stronger than before, as he lifted 200 quintillion tons...

So if we take that statement literally, then All-Star Superman could have lifted roughly 67 quintillion tons before he sundipped, (200 quintillion tons/3 = 66.66666 quintillion tons).

However, there are no feat(s) confirming this, I'm just going by what was specifically stated.

I never doubted this.

But pre-sundip all star may not necessarily be as strong or as weak as mainstream Superman.

That was my point all along...

Originally posted by Soljer
I never doubted this.

But pre-sundip all star may not necessarily be as strong or as weak as mainstream Superman.

That was my point all along...

Yeah, it's iffy both ways.

Like you said, we can't really say how strong/weak he was, because there aren't any real feats to gauge his power on (pre-sundip)...

Ummmm, doesn't "Class 100" mean that the character's base strength is by default around 100 tons, but that the character may show feats of a much higher level of strength?

So is such a hierarchy really necessary? If we say Superman has a base strength of 100 thousand hojillion tons, should he not be a Class 100, but rather in a new class of his own?

Just, you know, curious... 😕

Originally posted by shksprtx
Ummmm, doesn't "Class 100" mean that the character's base strength is by default around 100 tons, but that the character may show feats of a much higher level of strength?

Well I think it means anybody who can lift 100 tons or over. I dont think 100 tons has to be their base strength but that can be a criteria.

Originally posted by shksprtx

So is such a hierarchy really necessary? If we say Superman has a base strength of 100 thousand hojillion tons, should he not be a Class 100, but rather in a new class of his own?

Just, you know, curious... 😕

Yeah it should but I guess that would do comicfans heads in. I guess 100 is a nice number. 😂

Originally posted by shksprtx
Ummmm, doesn't "Class 100" mean that the character's base strength is by default around 100 tons, but that the character may show feats of a much higher level of strength?
As far as I know, class 100 = the ability to lift over 100 tons.

Even a character like Hulk, whom has lifted billions of tons on panel, is still regarded as a class 100 character.

srug

It's kind of like the superheavyweight class in weight/powerlifting. The lifter can't weigh any less than a certain amount (I forget how much, at the moment), but there's no upper limit to a lifter's bodyweight (well, other than that imposed by biology).

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...and I still say general classifications are they way to go (eg, Quintiton class, Megaton class, etc 😮‍💨 )

Originally posted by Galan007
As far as I know, class 100 = the ability to lift over 100 tons.

Even a character like Hulk, whom has lifted [b]billions of tons on panel, is still regarded as a class 100 character.

srug [/B]

co-signed

Originally posted by miraclethree
retard

Does this fool think Thanos and Darkseid aren't stronger than the others.

Originally posted by Mindship
and I still say general classifications are they way to go (eg, Quintiton class, Megaton class, etc 😮‍💨 )
That's what I'd like to see as well.

It would be a more specific classification system.

Originally posted by Galan007
That's what I'd like to see as well.

It would be a more specific classification system.

right, I REALLY REALLY HATE the 100 ton class...it makes it seem as if Superman and Namor are around the same strength when the difference between the two is greater than the difference between Aunt May and Colossus.

Originally posted by Scoobless
Who agrees with that? this thread is stupid and your guesses are ridiculous.

😬

many people have agreed that Superman is capable of at least 1,000,000,000,000,000,000 tons.

Some have placed Thor in the kiloton range, around 1000 tons.

so do the math.

Why is this thread stupid? because we can't gauge these class 100 character's strength? why not?

Originally posted by masterbruce
right, I REALLY REALLY HATE the 100 ton class...it makes it seem as if Superman and Namor are around the same strength when the difference between the two is greater than the difference between Aunt May and Colossus.
Yeah,

But such a classification system should be based on feats IMO.

Or else you'll have some people saying "well since Hulk's strength is supposed to be limitless, he should be in the class infinity category" 😬

Originally posted by DigiMark007

No one will agree. So good luck and all, but don't expect justifiable results.

Why not?

Why can we estimate Wolverine or Spiderman's strength but we can't estimate Superman's or Thor's strength?

Originally posted by Galan007
Yeah,

But such a classification system should be based on feats IMO.

Or else you'll have some people saying "well since Hulk's strength is supposed to be limitless, he should be in the class infinity category" 😬

yes agreed. they should be based on feats, and on average of feats, not some random high showing (ie Thor holding up the Midgard Serpent who was said to weigh as much as a planet...ridiculous since Thor usually doesn't even have the power to hold up a mountain, which is not even 1/1,000,000th the weight of a planet)

Can everyone post what they think Thor's strength is?

Originally posted by DigiMark007

No one will agree. So good luck and all, but don't expect justifiable results.

Also, doesn't this mean it's impossible to debate Superman vs Thor? I mean, if we can't estimate their strength, how can we even begin to debate who would win in a battle?

Originally posted by masterbruce
yes agreed. they should be based on feats, and on average of feats, not some random high showing (ie Thor holding up the Midgard Serpent who was said to weigh as much as a planet...ridiculous since Thor usually doesn't even have the power to hold up a mountain, which is not even 1/1,000,000th the weight of a planet)
IMO it should be along the lines of what said characters strength has been fairly consistent with.

Originally posted by Galan007
IMO it should be along the lines of what said characters strength has been fairly consistent with.

see that would create a problem

Thor has been fairly consistently portrayed around being 200ish tons...but it's clear he's NOT A TRILLION times weaker than Superman.

So either we have to downgrade Superman to being around 200ish tons or upgrade Thor to a quintillion tons, if we think they are relatively close in strength.

I propose that we put T'Challa around the Hulk's strength level.

Originally posted by masterbruce
see that would create a problem

Thor has been fairly consistently portrayed around being 200ish tons...but it's clear he's NOT A TRILLION times weaker than Superman.

So either we have to downgrade Superman to being around 200ish tons or upgrade Thor to a quintillion tons, if we think they are relatively close in strength.

There's no need to downgrade anyone.

All you need to do is take the strength feats both characters have, and compare them.

Your personal opinion that they should have around the same strength level is meaningless if their feats just aren't comparable.