Originally posted by Skeets
Rock his Mother****ing Jaw!
Even Orion wouldn't be able to take thousands of Superman level hits a second.
Can Orion take a thousand punches from bart? Probably. Bart would just break his hand on Orion's steel hard hand. Plus, Orion doesn't even have to be touched, he simply can throw up and shield and start letting the MB act as a black hole for kinetic energy..
To my knowledge, Orion has never been knocked out by anything physical.
Originally posted by long pig
Orion is probably faster than Wonder Woman. He's no slouch.Can Orion take a thousand punches from bart? Probably. Bart would just break his hand on Orion's steel hard hand. Plus, Orion doesn't even have to be touched, he simply can throw up and shield and start letting the MB act as a black hole for kinetic energy..
To my knowledge, Orion has never been knocked out by anything physical.
Originally posted by Skeets
Bart hurt his hand punching Orion?
Speed force Protects him from that.Orion ain't lasting more than a few seconds against Bart who's already rocked SBP(made him run like a *****) and Zoom.
Flash hurt his hand on slade.
Trying for a BFR? Orion can BT out or use the Motherbox to teleport. No biggie.
Plus, Orion is a speeder too. As fast or more likely faster than Wonder Woman.
Cool Orion feat: So, he's on earth dressed in bum's clothes and he gets mugged. They take off his glasses to see that he has no eyes (orion cut his own eyes out). So, while blind and turned the other way, they shot at him and he caught the bullets.
Originally posted by long pig
Speed force didn't help Wally from getting hurt-in fact-the speed force has never made any of the speedsters immune to being hurt.Flash hurt his hand on slade.
Originally posted by long pig
Trying for a BFR? Orion can BT out or use the Motherbox to teleport. No biggie.
Originally posted by long pig
Plus, Orion is a speeder too. As fast or more likely faster than Wonder Woman.Cool Orion feat: So, he's on earth dressed in bum's clothes and he gets mugged. They take off his glasses to see that he has no eyes (orion cut his own eyes out). So, while blind and turned the other way, they shot at him and he caught the bullets.
Instantaneous? That doesn't make sense. That's infinitely faster than light.
He had to have had some room to get momentum (like all flashes do. and all flashes have gotten hurt while in the speed force. many times) and Orion could already be out of reach and blasting.
Anyway, bart could TRY to hit him, but he'd just hit the shield. The harness can push lightspeed itself. If worse comes to worse, blow up the damn world or let motherbox mess with time.
Originally posted by long pig
Instantaneous? That doesn't make sense. That's infinitely faster than light.He had to have had some room to get momentum (like all flashes do. and all flashes have gotten hurt while in the speed force. many times) and Orion could already be out of reach and blasting.
Anyway, bart could TRY to hit him, but he'd just hit the shield. The harness can push lightspeed itself. If worse comes to worse, blow up the damn world or let motherbox mess with time.
People who can beat a fullpowered Orion?
Thor, BRB due to the hammers being able to negate his trump card.
Superman - Just portrayed as more powerful on average.
Surfer vs Orion goes to Orion, even though he's not as durable, his warriors edge is what gets him the win, same as Thor vs Surfer.
Not a long list true, but he's not clearly above most herald class characters.
actually that is to be seen. Orion usually dumbs down during the JLA so i wouldn't actually use that. He's at least as strong as supes. He's a wayy better fighter. He has healing powers that would allow him to take just about anything thor could throw. He has his astro-harness which can emit blasts easily capable of killing someone in Supes durability range.
Originally posted by UniOmni
People who can beat a fullpowered Orion?Thor, BRB due to the hammers being able to negate his trump card.
Superman - Just portrayed as more powerful on average.
Surfer vs Orion goes to Orion, even though he's not as durable, his warriors edge is what gets him the win, same as Thor vs Surfer.
Not a long list true, but he's not clearly above most herald class characters.
Thor/BRB: Don't think so. As good as Mjolnir is, the AF and MB are better.
Superman: In all seriousness, negating the jobber aura, Orion is actually more powerful.
Surfer: This was giant PIS and not canon. Orion should have murdered Surfer.
Super-Adaptoid: No idea. This thing is a ***** to fight, but can it copy the AF?
Absorbing Man: Absorbing the AF will prove to be a really really bad idea.....
Gladiator: Nope.
Uni-Power War Hulk: **** no.
Celestial Armor Darwin: No idea.
Re: Beat full powered Orion. Someone.
Originally posted by long pig
To me, this character is SO hard to figure out where he ranks in the "who's the best" category. So, I thought people could throw out some people who they think can beat him. Hopefully, my other D.C folks will help me out with the debate.Rules: Average herald level. No surfer.
No time/reality bending.
No magic.
I want to say no to allowing around light speed, but...he's got superhuman speed himself so I don't know.
No BFR.Well, that's it. Seriously, let's figure out his tier. Junt and the other D.C ryders help me out here.
Here's a bio http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orion_%28comics%29
I don't see any Average herald level beating a full powered Orion.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Thor/BRB: Don't think so. As good as Mjolnir is, the AF and MB are better.Superman: In all seriousness, negating the jobber aura, Orion is actually more powerful.
Surfer: This was giant PIS and not canon. Orion should have murdered Surfer.
Super-Adaptoid: No idea. This thing is a ***** to fight, but can it copy the AF?
Absorbing Man: Absorbing the AF will prove to be a really really bad idea.....
Gladiator: Nope.
Uni-Power War Hulk: **** no.
Celestial Armor Darwin: No idea.
AstroForce is better than Mjnollir? Debateable.
Possible, but that doesn't nullify the fact that since it's an energy attack consistently, it works to the advantage of Thor/BRB to absorb and reflect it back onto Orion times ten.
Surfer beating Orion was pis?
Why?
I agree that it shouldn't have been so easily accomplished, but i wouldn't call bs if either had taken the win.
Orion vs Superman is always a good match.
Superman being more or less powerful is up for debate.
It's akin to Surfer vs Superman.
Orion is much more versatile true, but some would argue Superman is just as potent, even if he is limited in application.
Lol at the mood of your post.
Whatever made you think that Orion would murder elite top tiers in battle?
The hammer, which has absorbed anything that the wielder wanted it to absorb, can't absorb something like the AF?
Why?
The AF is basically the same thing as the PC.
And the hammer has never had a problem absorbing that.
I just want to know what makes you think the AF is above the hammer, or anyone i named.
And the Fury would decimate Orion.
Fury decimates everyone. 🙄 But.....can he adapt to the AF? Good question.
AF is different than the PC. DC doesn't work the same way as Marvel.
And how many times do I have to say this? THE AF IS DIFFERENT FROM ANYTHING IN MARVEL. THERE IS NO COUNTERPART. Same with the OE.
What makes it different? The Source. Ask LP, Juntai, Draco and others. The nature of things powered by, or from, the Source, makes them undefendable by most things in Marvel. Like the way Magic trumps most things in Marvel. Except worse.
The fury would adapt to the AF, since that's what it does. If it can adapt to Reality warping on an insane scale, it can adapt to something much less than that.
Secondly, i'm not going to ask Draco anything about the Source, or NG related since that thread he made before where he claimed that all of Darkseids appearances in recent times have been avatars.
That thread was full of falsehoods and just out and out wrong on many levels.
Third, i don't ask others what i already know myself.
The AF is powerful, but it's not the end all of everything.
Maybe it was intended to be, but it's not shown.
And going by your weak stance, Surfer beating Orion wasn't pis, since there's nothing in DC that equates to the PC.
Except the fact that the AF is the power of the source, where as the PC is the energy of the universe.
Analogous, if i say so myself.
And no heat, but did you read much with the NG's, or did you go by the respect forum?
Curious, is all.