Beat full powered Orion. Someone.

Started by long pig5 pages
long pig Restricted

More strength,
But Not much more.
Heat vision
Give Hulk a laser gun[/quote]
The breath stuff os stupid. That clearly shows he's not a cosmic. Can't breath in space
over light speed
Sub spnic speed. He doesn't have lightspeed reactions.,
better fighting skills
better fighting that WHO? Orion was the greatest martial artist in the galazy at one time. ,[quotebetter reaction times[/quote] They are about the same. Superman doesn't have lightspeed reactions. Orion doesn't either, but he DOES have enough speed to walk into a room of machine gun fire all going off and he simply dodges them all without a sweat.

long pig Restricted

****, you were talking about Hulk, weren't you?

long pig Restricted

haha

UniOmni Outrageously Dickish

Superman was hurt by the Astroforce before true.

But he also took repeated blasts with little trouble as well.

Starfire took blasts of the AF in a teen titan/JLA crossover.

The General took blasts of the AF in stride, but lost his arm to hv.

The AF is powerful, but it's not the end all you guys are presenting it as.

It's just one more powersource that is trumped by narrative, but isn't nearly as consistent in showing.

And what makes you think that Orion would take the AF turned back onto himself the way Superman takes sunlight?

Darkseid gets hit with his own attack, he's hurt significantly.

Why would Orion be any different, unless you've got a showing i'm not aware of where he took the AF when it was meant to hurt and said it only replenished him, rather than hurt him?

TricksterPriest Renegade Timelord

*sigh* do you even understand what the Astro Force is? It's called "The Wrath of the Source." SHUT UP FOR 5 MINUTES AND THINK ABOUT THAT NAME! 😒

Juntai Divine Vengeance

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UniOmni Outrageously Dickish
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
*sigh* do you even understand what the Astro Force is? It's called "The Wrath of the Source." SHUT UP FOR 5 MINUTES AND THINK ABOUT THAT NAME! 😒

What's in a name if in execution it's been withstood?

I'm not saying the AF isn't powerful. It is.

It's just akin to the PC in that it has various showings, and isn't consistently top of the line.

Really, you're being silly about this.

TricksterPriest Renegade Timelord

You still don't get it. Juntai, Long Pig, can either of you explain this, because this guy is not listening to me.

UniOmni Outrageously Dickish

And you're not going by comics.

mighty adam Senior Member

orion vs captain atom no pis= atom

orion vs supes= supes say what yall want about supes but the man got feats to back shit up

orion vs hal or kyle= gls

orion vs martian mahunter=orion

orion vs wonder women=orion

orion vs captain marvel= tie

mighty adam Senior Member

Originally posted by long pig
This?

The AF is on PAR with mjolnir in power (god blast and full AF blast are equal (it's been hinted to that he can destroy a galaxy with a full blast)), but the AF AND the MB together are >>Mjolnir.

Blasting Orion with his own Astro force is like blasting Superman with sunlight. It'll just make him stronger (actually, there are no limits to how much AF he can use).

Surfer v Orion? Either way. They are both badasses, but Orion's trump card AF would kill Surfer.

Vs Superman. Please. Superman admitted Orion is someone he'd never, EVER want to fight. A pen sized blast of AF hit Superman and nearly k.o'd him.

If Superman more powerful? Hell no. Powerwise, he's half as powerful. (doesn't mean he wouldn't win a few, just that he's not as powerful).

Orion is above Superman but MAYBE below Surfer. IMO, he's Black Bolt's equal if not a little more due to his strength and skill and durability and immense output of power.

BLACK BOLTS EQUAL WTF!!!!!!!!! black bolt can't even beat bricks like hulk. orion is WAY WAY or black bolt. orion is a lil below sufer still a best tho.

TricksterPriest Renegade Timelord

Originally posted by mighty adam
orion vs captain atom no pis= atom

orion vs supes= supes say what yall want about supes but the man got feats to back shit up

orion vs hal or kyle= gls

orion vs martian mahunter=orion

orion vs wonder women=orion

orion vs captain marvel= tie

CA: Not sure.

Supes: Orion. And Superman has admitted he would lose.

Hal: Orion.

WW: Orion.

CM: Not sure.

Superherovandal CEO of BS Comics Inc.

using a JLA book isn't really valid. In there half the time the people lose power in order to keep the villain a threat. and considering that General feels no pain and will heal from anything him withsthanding the beams isn't all that bad. But the HV doing more damage is PIS pure in simple. Supes would lose to Orion. Orion is stronger, more skilled, and has more destructive capabilities.

mighty adam Senior Member

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
CA: Not sure.

Supes: Orion. And Superman has admitted he would lose.

Hal: Orion.

WW: Orion.

CM: Not sure.

supes has said he'll lose to alot of people ww, manhunter, ect ect. supes has t-vo, supes is way way faster, supes has unlimited strength, plus supes has godly pis=superman for the win!!!!

Superherovandal CEO of BS Comics Inc.

He never said he would lose to WW. MM is valid. he would beat Supes and Supes isn't with unlimited strength thats hulk's schtick.

mighty adam Senior Member

Originally posted by Superherovandal
using a JLA book isn't really valid. In there half the time the people lose power in order to keep the villain a threat. and considering that General feels no pain and will heal from anything him withsthanding the beams isn't all that bad. But the HV doing more damage is PIS pure in simple. Supes would lose to Orion. Orion is stronger, more skilled, and has more destructive capabilities.
no no you can't say orion is stronger. supes has never shown to have a limit with strength feats. supes is faster orion would never hit him with he's hands AF maybe hands no. supes has t-vo it sounds like bull shit yes i know i try to over look it to but t-vo is a real power face it. plus supes just got more feats/ better feats.

mighty adam Senior Member

Originally posted by Superherovandal
He never said he would lose to WW. MM is valid. he would beat Supes and Supes isn't with unlimited strength thats hulk's schtick.
i used to be a supes hater for real for real but when i looked at all his feat i'm a beleiver. supes has unlimited strength. if supes wants to move plantes he will if he wants to throw plantes he will and if he wants to punch one in half he can.

TricksterPriest Renegade Timelord

Orion is a new god. And not just any, he's the son of Darkseid.

Superman cannot defeat Orion. the AF would destroy him. He may have great feats, but he hasn't shown the power to bust the astro harness's field, stop Motherbox, or even take a blast of the AF. Hell, he has a bad track record against the AF.

Juntai Divine Vengeance

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Orion is a new god. And not just any, he's the son of Darkseid.

Superman cannot defeat Orion. the AF would destroy him. He may have great feats, but he hasn't shown the power to bust the astro harness's field, stop Motherbox, or even take a blast of the AF. Hell, he has a bad track record against the AF.

Actually, he got blasted by the Astroforce before, and was OK, it kocked him halfway across the planet though. Impossible to say if Orion was going all out however.

Superherovandal CEO of BS Comics Inc.

he doesn't have unlimited strength. Very, very high level yes... but even he has limits. He has never pushed planets on his lonesome in Post-crisis history. Split a moon of Jupiter in two yes but not lift a planet. and besides Orion is already stronger that Supes so your point about strength is moot anyways. Supes has needed help to move the moon from GL and WW or MM and WW if i am correct.