Darth Nihilus: True Sith Lord?

Is he truly a Sith or a Sith only in name?

Evidence Against Him Being A True Sith Lord:
Kreia: “And he cares nothing for the Sith or its teachings... or the Jedi. And when the Jedi are dead, he will feed on the galaxy, the Republic, and eventually, consume the Sith as well. There is no future in the empty galaxy he sees. And that is why he must be stopped; the breach must sealed, before his power grows beyond what even we can hope to stop. One cannot have power of that magnitude that her master possesses and still think and perceive the universe as we do, as most of us do.”

Kreia: "{Chiding} Power? Do you think so? {Shakes head} You would be wrong. There is no strength in the hunger he possesses... and the will behind his power is a primal thing. And it devours him as he devours others - his mere presence kills all around him, slowly, feeding him. He is already dead; it is simply a question of how many he kills before he falls.”

Evidence For Him Being A True Sith Lord:
He possesses a Sith holocron.

He is alongside other Sith like Lord Bane and Andeddu.

He is named Darth Nihilus (though NO ONE calls him by this in the game)

...um, what?

True Sith being the species that's rumored to still be around by KOTOR, or did you mean something else?

Nihilus is a Sith Lord, no doubt about that. Thinking otherwise would be silly...

Well, different people have different philosophies.

Some could easily argue someone who "cares nothing for the Sith or their teachings" is not actually a Sith Lord.

And the "True Sith" don't have Sith Lords, do they?

And you're NOT a fanboy? And he's NOT a true sith lord

And you're NOT a fanboy?

Nope.

And he's NOT a true sith lord

Explain why?

Originally posted by Nikkolas
Explain why?

Simple because he didn't care about the Sith. He didn't care about the Code, or the rules, or anything. What he did had no purpose, he only did it to feed his hunger because he needed to do so in order to survive. Eventually, he would destroy the Sith themselves. He's not like the other "I want unlimited power!" ones. The only thing he did was fed himself. Normally a Sith would like to conquer the galaxy, not eat it

Originally posted by Riverollv
Normally a Sith would like to conquer the galaxy, not eat it

😆

Originally posted by Nikkolas
Nope.

Speak for yourself, the posts you made prove you are a fanboy, admit it

Which one?

I've backed up everything I've said of Nihilus' power with proof. I've shown the vid of it, a quote or source. I do not spew out lies or distort anything.

Originally posted by Nikkolas
Which one?

I've backed up everything I've said of Nihilus' power with proof. I've shown the vid of it, a quote or source. I do not spew out lies or distort anything.

Yes you have backed them up, but your using ambiguous quotes to put him above every body

Originally posted by Captain REX
...um, what?

True Sith being the species that's rumored to still be around by KOTOR, or did you mean something else?

Nihilus is a Sith Lord, no doubt about that. Thinking otherwise would be silly...

So true

I would like to quote Lord Kaan in this instance: "It is a predator. It can think only of hunger and blood. It doesn't care whether you are good or evil, Darth Bane. It simply wanted to feed."

It seemed applicable.
However, Nihilus is still a Sith.

"He pulled the entire fleet" When a fallible character contradicts an out of universe statement on a loading screen, backed up my ass.

Um...what? It doesn't contradict it. Does the screen say "he pulled ONLY the Ravager from Malachor"? If it doesn't, then it's not a contradiction.

Contradict-
to contradict is to state that something is the opposite of what has been said;

So, if the statement on the loading screen just says he pulls the Ravager from Malachor, then that's true. But if it doesn't specifically say he only pulled the Ravager, then it's not a contradiction.

Yes you have backed them up, but your using ambiguous quotes to put him above every body

I don't put him above Palpatine.

And I find it repeatedly annoying about how people say "besides the drain, what does he have?" Because it's basically saying besides what puts him above everyone, what does he have? And I'm just trying to show he can do crap besides it.

So far the abilities and power I've found:
-Ability to sustain life on a ship where life should not be possible. While simultaneously draining everyone around him.
-consciousness transferal
-massive TK
-Stun
-Choke

Anyway, it depends on what you define as a Sith. One could argue Nihilus is the "core" of the Sith. After all, don't Sith want greater power? Won't they destroy their fellows for said power?

Originally posted by Nikkolas
Um...what? It doesn't contradict it. Does the screen say "he pulled ONLY the Ravager from Malachor"? If it doesn't, then it's not a contradiction.

Contradict-
to contradict is to state that something is the opposite of what has been said;

So, if the statement on the loading screen just says he pulls the Ravager from Malachor, then that's true. But if it doesn't specifically say he only pulled the Ravager, then it's not a contradiction.

I don't put him above Palpatine.

And I find it repeatedly annoying about how people say "besides the drain, what does he have?" Because it's basically saying besides what puts him above everyone, what does he have? And I'm just trying to show he can do crap besides it.

So far the abilities and power I've found:
-Ability to sustain life on a ship where life should not be possible. While simultaneously draining everyone around him.
-consciousness transferal
-massive TK
-Stun
-Choke

Anyway, it depends on what you define as a Sith. One could argue Nihilus is the "core" of the Sith. After all, don't Sith want greater power? Won't they destroy their fellows for said power?

Add to the list:

- Held a ship together that should have fallen apart long ago while still holding off the Republic fleet and battling the Exile, Mandalore, and Visas
- Good lightsaber skill, it actually took three people to beat him

I would consider him a Sith, he uses its teachings and his name precedes with a "Darth."

Revan was a true sith lord, Nihilus? Nihilus wanted to eat, kill, consume everything in sight. There's nothing about him that makes him a true sith.

What made Revan a "true Sith Lord?" He didn't want total power or galaxy domination.

And Nihilus being a true Sith does work because he only "ate" people to survive and to make him stronger, unless I am mistaken, Sith always want more power, and to do that, they have to be strong.

Originally posted by General G
What made Revan a "true Sith Lord?" He didn't want total power or galaxy domination.

And Nihilus being a true Sith does work because he only "ate" people to survive and to make him stronger, unless I am mistaken, Sith always want more power, and to do that, they have to be strong.

He didn't want total power or domination? Someone needs to read POD who calls Revan a True Sith Lord. And Nihilus didn't care for the sith order, he would eat or kill jedi and sith alike.

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
He didn't want total power or domination? Someone needs to read POD who calls Revan a True Sith Lord. And Nihilus didn't care for the sith order, he would eat or kill jedi and sith alike.

I read that, and quite enjoyed it, it also confirmed Revan as a male. And that was coming from Bane, a Sith that knew nothing about Revan...

He did what he had to do to make him more powerful.

Originally posted by General G
I read that, and quite enjoyed it, it also confirmed Revan as a male. And that was coming from Bane, a Sith that knew nothing about Revan...

He did what he had to do to make him more powerful.

Revan was indeed a true sith, especially since he gave Bane the idea for the rule of two.

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Revan was indeed a true sith, especially since he gave Bane the idea for the rule of two.

You keep saying that, but yet still no substantial proof backing it up, he went to the dark side to try to protect the galaxy and the republic, not for domination or personal gain...he may have given him the idea, but that doesn't make him a true Sith.